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This is Toxic?!

Ýisus·12/27/2016, 11:10:55 AM·2 votes·1,259 views

**I wish they would show everyones conversation. Instead of just your own text. I would consider nothing said here to be toxic except the "pathetic" comment - which was in response. Do real people actually review reports before chat bans are given? Does League actually expect you to just "tuck your balls up and ignore / take the higher ground when someone is directly harrassing / insulting you? I come from a generation where you defend yourself - not "take the more mature route"

Here is the logs .... all &&& is explanation of what was being said.**

Game 1 Ganksta Yisus: pls stand at blue so ivern doesnt take it Ganksta Yisus: ty Ganksta Yisus: you seriously targetting ivern over talon ??? Ganksta Yisus: not that attitude ... pls

&&& KagamineCat: Its norms, it doesn't matter if I feed all game" At this point we are 4 minutes or so in and top laner has died 3 times to Fiora"**

Ganksta Yisus: if you play bad in norms you play bad in ranked - not saying anyone is playing bad currently Ganksta Yisus: but its a straight truth Ganksta Yisus: it is the same amount of time wasted - ranked means nothing compared to time

&&& ** At this point I am explaining to him that regardless of ranked or normals - having a "just for fun, dont care if I win or lose" attitude is wasting other peoples time. Because, if you are here for fun .... Losing isn't fun. So lets all try to win.**

Ganksta Yisus: all ranked gets you is some stupid color around your avatar .... Ganksta Yisus: in about 2500 games I have met like 10 or so that saw it like that. Ganksta Yisus: they all had bronze tags all season long - not saying you are bronze - i have no idea.

&&& ** I even clarify multiple times that I am not saying anyone is doing or playing badly. Just carrying on a conversation.**

Ganksta Yisus: like i said - no 1 is playing badly right now. its 8/6 - not a horrid score Ganksta Yisus: eh - i figured her stun would be on cool down Ganksta Yisus: through for sure she would have had to use it on you

&&& **KagamineCat: starts talking shit because I died to Fiora. **

Ganksta Yisus: brah - i have died once - not 3 times :) Ganksta Yisus: ah 2x - forgot about mid lol Ganksta Yisus: stop feeding her

&&& ** Here is his 5th death to Fiora in under 7 minutes. But whatever, as you can see I have said nothing to offend him.**

Ganksta Yisus: i really dont have a reaction - but moving over to AC4 rq Ganksta Yisus: enjoy Ganksta Yisus: will do :) a game people play for fun. instead of to win :)

&&& ** At this point I want to just AFK instead of be harrassed by a 4 party team ( they all were in the same clan ) - But I dont, because AFK'ing is against the rules - so I continue playing**

Ganksta Yisus: this game isnt for fun.... Ganksta Yisus: i dont play this game for fun at all

&&& Here is where he starts telling me I am pathetic for playing to win ... and starts talking about (Brofresco) who supposedly became a millionaire by playing just for fun.

Ganksta Yisus: who ? Ganksta Yisus: brofresco is plat / diamond Ganksta Yisus: depending on which season you look at Ganksta Yisus: he didnt get famous for having fun - he even has an entire video talking about how LoL makes him really tilted Ganksta Yisus: no bro ... that was quite early on Ganksta Yisus: he talks about how he plays to win. Ganksta Yisus: do you even watch his video's ? Ganksta Yisus: then why are you here?

&&& ** Here is where he tells me I am bad yet again, and that my "wanting to win is pathetic" - at this point I am done being nice, so I call him pathetic ... its only like the 15th time he has called me pathetic or bad.
** Ganksta Yisus: you seem pathetic to me Ganksta Yisus: 2/6 top lane Ganksta Yisus: im not ganking your fed lane

&&& At this point he is complaining that I wont gank his fed lane .... I tried previously and died, no point in ganking a fed lane if you cant beat that fed champ

&&& Here is when their 4 person clan takes it to /all - telling everyone to report me. CLaiming I have been flaming them and saying they are bad

Ganksta Yisus: they are mad that i am not ganking them - but they fed all their lanes Ganksta Yisus: and i have not been toxic once - i have told no 1 they sucked at all Ganksta Yisus: i have yet to say anyone is bad. real talk Ganksta Yisus: they are all i8n a team Ganksta Yisus: look at their namesd Ganksta Yisus: ^^ you see who has been toxic

&&& At this point Scion KagamineCat: starts talking about how bad I suck and this and that.

Ganksta Yisus: they are straight trolling saying they are here to have fun in normals .... but not to win - sounds like feeding to me - but whatever - it will be over soon enough Ganksta Yisus: scion straight up told me he was intentionally feeding. "this is his fun" Ganksta Yisus: like i said - they are straight trolling - and reacting ... i could careless - I play to win - but if i get a team of 4 who wants to troll 1 person and laugh in a skype call Ganksta Yisus: whatever ... nothing i can do about it Ganksta Yisus: you guys are a straight up group of 4 .... lol Ganksta Yisus: its not hard to tell ... you all have the same clan ..... Ganksta Yisus: I agree - just wanted to defend myself since they are lying saying I am toxic to them - be well red team. pls finish soon so I can move on to another team :) Ganksta Yisus: Fiora - you see how Tahm just sat there to KS my jg kill .... that is what i have been dealing with this game

&&& At this point they are following me around jg last hitting my farm

Ganksta Yisus: ^^ Ganksta Yisus: lol .... where do you come up with these lies brotha? Ganksta Yisus: bro just report - the log is there.

39 Comments

Deep Terror Nami12/27/2016, 11:21:17 AM7 votes

Toxic is toxic regardless of "who started it" or what the other players said. That is why only your own chat is shown, and only that is taken into consideration.

If someone else is being toxic, don't get into an argument with them because it only makes the situation worse and ensures it continues. If you just ignore or mute them the problem in chat stops there with you; this makes the experience better for everyone in the match including yourself, and you can't possibly be punished for that but the other person will be held accountable for their behavior.

If someone is trolling, giving them shit in chat is almost certainly not going to help, and they might just direct their toxic behavior towards you or act worse. Mute and report them and let Riot take care of it.

Martensitic12/27/2016, 11:20:36 AM4 votes

Glancing at the very bottom of your chat log only allows me to answer your question: Yes.

Report calling is a punishable offense.

And even without that, you spent ALL GAME LONG argueing with teammates, berating them belitteling them, and trying to gove them commands. That is FKIN ANNOYING for everyone else in the game (who most likely muted you from the get go) and lowered your teams chance of success.

Your punishment is deserved.

EvilDustMan12/27/2016, 12:52:14 PM3 votes

It is low level toxic, you should have muted, but it isn't a game that would punish you. By itself.

GoleBilon12/27/2016, 1:31:32 PM2 votes

I willl give you great advice, mute all . You are prolly not toxic and a great guy, But Rito does not give a fuck , toxicity is commmunity based so if your teammates think you are toxic and will report you multiple times ( no matter if you actually were ) system will flag your games for simple words like bronze , fuck , bonobo , booosted etc. You shouldnt care at all their system sucks and everybody who has been punished knows that. All you will get on this boards will be people defending Rito system because they are insecure kids that report eveyrbody after the game. They think they are better because they dont curse in chat even tho there is a diffrence between "fuck me im boosted " and "fuck you you little bitch " does not matter. i highly advice you to not give a fuck or shit :D

Dynikus12/27/2016, 11:21:10 AM2 votes

I'm assuming you got some form of punishment for this, which would mean there are two other games you got chat logs for?

eMSequel12/27/2016, 11:30:21 AM2 votes

Riot uses multiple games to decide an outcome and only shows some as examples of games where a player breaks the summoner's code. It's tempting to get baited by a troll or flaming premade into saying something "toxic" in retaliation to their toxicity but Riot will not spare the rod but instead will whip both parties. Besides, if an enemy reports you for something that their chat could not see on their side then their report goes uncounted if a team mate is lying for example. The best action would be to mute them and communicate via pings. And this is only one game of many. Riot doesn't use just one game and doesn't show the player every game but they usually show 3.

Gimpy8912/28/2016, 6:51:15 PM1 votes

this isn't toxic, but there should be 2 other games in the reform card.

jurrrr12/27/2016, 3:09:52 PM1 votes

lol wtf? how do you get banned for that? Unless there is something else you're not showing.

Ýisus12/27/2016, 11:43:31 AM1 votes

I am strictly asking for this 1 game. There were 2 games in the behavior card. I am not questioning the other. But this 1 I am question as to how it is toxic.

As for me - I am telling the person on my team to just report me and stop talking to me. I actually dont really report ... it makes me feel like a 12 year old at school "teacher teacher ... timmy called me a name" - I only personally report for intentional feeding.

Strilter12/27/2016, 4:38:18 PM1 votes

That's not toxic... ya know that poison move from pokemon... yeah .... thats toxic