Can we prioritize bans for giving up?

Melledoneus··3 votes·635 views

I've started playing ranked again recently (Congrats, first time placements hasn't placed me in Bronze V) and I notice that a lot of people have the mentality that if they or someone on their team make a mistake or get outplayed, they just give up and become a hindrance to their team.

For example, we had a Brand mid who got fed off the enemy Leblanc who had no clue what she was doing. Bot lane was in trouble since it was basically a 3v2 lane and our ADC was having internet problems and got behind, and our jungler didn't consider ganking bot lane. Basically, the fed Brand entered a mindset that we were all feeders and he refused to group. At one point he just walked into the middle of our jungle and waited until the enemy team tore him apart. Jungler asked him what he was doing and he simply replied, "Giving up."

I'm sure we have a lot of these stories floating around, but the point is that we need to make giving up a reportable offense. It's one of the worst things somebody can do in a game where teamwork is vital, and to be fair allowing 4 people to suffer at the hands of one jerk who tossed in the towel would be wholly cruel.

I don't see enough of these people being banned. Please give it priority. Thank you.

17 Comments

hunterspec1 votes

hell fucking no.

score is 12-41.

"nope let's not surrender, we still have a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Melledoneus1 votes

If you are in a team who refuses to surrender, either try to convince them otherwise (our nexus turrets are down, enemy team has better late game, etc.) or just go along and try to win. Hell, try to connect with your team and formulate a stratrgy to catch up. You don't just give up unless your whole team already has and is clearly trolling, but that is a rare occasion.

I've won games where the score is 40-70 something, but because we focused the people with all the gold we won handily. Scores alone don't determine the flow of the game, but are a result of it.

hunterspec1 votes

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If you are in a team who refuses to surrender, either try to convince them otherwise (our nexus turrets are down, enemy team has better late game, etc.) or just go along and try to win. Hell, try to connect with your team and formulate a stratrgy to catch up. You don't just give up unless your whole team already has and is clearly trolling, but that is a rare occasion.

I've won games where the score is 40-70 something, but because we focused the people with all the gold we won handily. Scores alone don't determine the flow of the game, but are a result of it.

don't you think I do that? Hey assholes, look at the score, they have 4 drags we have none, it's 0-7 to turrets, 3 inhibs down, wtf r u guys thinking? we can't win.

lol I have gotten 6 accounts banned for afk feeding but now I have stopped being a toxic asshole and you have no fucking idea how hard it is to say "no ff? well fuck you, feeding to make the game go faster"

40-70? you still got 40 kills. being down 3-32(I think the score was) is impossible unless all other players on the enemy team disconnect.

Restless Slumber1 votes

There is no reason to stop trying in a game at all. You keep playing to the best of your ability even though you are most likely tilted. You only stop trying as soon as the ff vote goes through or the game ends. If that doesn't happen, then you are straight up trolling.

hunterspec1 votes

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There is no reason to stop trying in a game at all. You keep playing to the best of your ability even though you are most likely tilted. You only stop trying as soon as the ff vote goes through or the game ends. If that doesn't happen, then you are straight up trolling.

trolling by not wanting to play a **unwinnable **game. Not ffing, wasting your teams time forcing them to play isn't.

yeah ok, makes sense

AeroWaffle1 votes

a unwinnable game

Your teammates aren't always going to agree with that opinion. That's why the surrender takes a super-majority.

hunterspec1 votes

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Your teammates aren't always going to agree with that opinion. That's why the surrender takes a super-majority.

yes and that is sadly one of the worst parts of the games.

swordofsun1 votes

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don't you think I do that? Hey assholes, look at the score, they have 4 drags we have none, it's 0-7 to turrets, 3 inhibs down, wtf r u guys thinking? we can't win.

I hope that's not how you actually argue. There's a good chance you changed some yes votes to no votes just to spite you.

Restless Slumber1 votes

I wish this could be reportable, but on the flipside of things... Oh wait there isn't. Yea I hate people who give up, but that doesn't stop you from trying your best. In bronze, silver, and gold elo it doesn't mean the world to have someone giving up like that. I mean, he was fed and he could have won the game for you guys, but that is his decision to lose the game. You also had the decision to win the game, but you didn't make it when you did poorly.

AeroWaffle1 votes

I thought giving up (outside the surrender feature) was already reportable?

I would classify it as, "assisting the enemy team".

swordofsun1 votes

Unsportsmanlike conduct? It's got a check box and everything.

AeroWaffle1 votes

Yeah that's it. I'm thinking of the old report reasons, where "Assisting the enemy team" was still listed.

Kei1431 votes

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I don't see enough of these people being banned. Please give it priority. Thank you.

you don't hang around here often enough do you?

you'll get a guy every other day complaining about "unfair ban" when all they said were negative stuff and how they wanted to give up.

Melledoneus2 votes

Most of those cases they did something else as well, like flaming or cursing.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Almost every single one of those cases in fact. Riot places a much greater priority on chat compared to gameplay.

Kei1432 votes

In the past 5 days, there were like .. 6 posts about how they got unfairly punished.

Most of their chats just consist of negativity & asking for reports.

BlueBilberry1 votes

The FF@20 types can be banned - but there have to be enough of the reports before they get dinged. Just make sure that you don't just click the button but give the staffers something more to go on when you report them. If the behaviour in the game is akin to griefing / "inting"/"camping in respawn" with (or without) disconnecting" / "spamming surrender votes", then make a mention of it. Be clear. Then those early surrendering types will be dealt with accordingly.

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