The mutlique attitude and why single players shouldn't be subjected to it.

Abyss Gear Syxx·7/29/2016, 6:36:45 AM·1 votes·496 views

After dealing with many games with multiques in it I think I speak for many when I say this, I really no longer want to play with them anymore.

A typical multique match will go as follows: You are doing fine in your lane, you might win it or you might die once and hold out to mid game. During this time anything you say whether you are thinking that someone on the enemy team is being very cocky because they've tried diving 3+ times or even expressing to a Ryze that needlessly large rod is going to benefit him less than survival items with mana on them because he scales better on mana = an argument. Next is if you stay in a lane while you are doing well and the enemy team is multiqued you will soon find that they will move into teamfights more often or send 3 man ganks top. This is further ruined because you cannot even say, "Hey I need help top there are three people there." Without getting into an 'argument'.

Next thing is if you call out any single person [use the Ryze comment as an example] you now have an entire group of people who aren't necessarily being civil working against you just because you would like to see the team succeed. No it isn't as simple as, "No I think if I build X item I will be better off." It's more like "Oh well your build is shit and you have no right to say anything..." Even if you have a positive ratio or are surviving perfectly fine against your 1 foe. Follow up with the fact that this discussion will lead people to ignoring the truth which is that the enemy is using the above tactics and there is a big problem.

Finally I have an issue about tanks who are doing tons of damage when their builds have zero damage in them. Since when has the word tank meant that "Size in fact means everything and I can stomp you out on whim even if I am 5+ deaths behind and have no minions." A lot of AP HP champions are this way right now and even a few ad but again this situation is much worse when they've got 1 or 2 people camping them/following them around to make sure they do well. There is no way I can as a solo qued person in a group of premades do anything to stop or counter this situation this happens in both ranked andn regular matches. Part of playing a game is losing but if the only way a person can participate in a game is losing you are going to see people getting upset and rage quitting it. Not to mention that the situation above will have the multi qued 4 most of the time reporting the non teamed 5th. I don't want to hear stupid remarks like "Should play with friends" when this should be a place where I should be able to make them. If the game can't give what it is asking for it has no right asking.

  1. I am sick of dealing with multi ques even as small as 2 in a ranked in a game that used to feel like skill was relevant. [Now it isnt after the many reworks and changes, many pros and rioters feel the game is more teambased. Which is very hard to make happen in an environment like above.] This especially has an effect on tactics and being able to communicate at all. It was bad before but this is worse.

  2. I am not going to claim being bad like many of the higher tier people are going to say. Yeah I may be worse than you but there really isn't a way for me to enjoy a normal match ranked or otherwise when the typical attitude and the way the game is made favors me playing with friends. WHat if I came here to make friends? Suddenly I am muzzled and can't say a damn thing even if it contributes to our overall success. I am sick of being threatened and treated poorly just because I am not in a group! My skills speak enough for themselves, I have an above 50% win ratio and an above 50% win ratio on my mains. The only thing that is holding me back is this sudden change from skill to teamwork. Why can't the game have both?

3.Tanks shouldn't be doing tons of damage unless they are building damage and they better be severely punished defensively if they are. I shouldn't be seeing ap leonas and stupid shit like outperforming assassins marksmen and mages just because they have more hp and defense.

I remember when a lead actually meant something in this game, I've seen tanks recover from being 70 plus cs down and giving up 4 kills just because items despite what they look like are not doing as much vs this creed anymore. If you look at a lot of the top characters being banned they are also part of these burst damage characters and even if they aren't being banned as much they are still hard to do anything about.

Hecarim Volibear Rumble Sejuani Vladimir Swain Malphite

So maybe you are like "What should we do about this?" How about people who have dynamic quing emblems or whatever be more likely to pair up with multiques even if they aren't in one. Because I have the solo que emblem i should play against and play with other solo que players. I don't like being forced into a situation where my best choices are "Sit back and lose" or "Speak up and be hated."

As for the tanks, I dunno perhaps give them a natural enemy like... hmm assassins? Tanks may not be doing ridiculously good every match but a lot of the ones listed have had an above 50% win ratio and if you see their ban rates I highly doubt it's because of skill but being overbearing while having no counterplay. No it isn't counterplay to give them a weak early game and then give them a level 6 that completely reverses that without the need for items or strategy either.

3 Comments

DG Banks7/29/2016, 7:39:35 AM2 votes

I think premade 3s and 4s should def be taken out of ranked, that is a complete joke, the teams are always so lopsided..
I dont care what they do in norms though. But I am always the solo q player in a team of premade 3s or 4s and it absolutely blows. either the other team is just so much better than my team or my team automatically is against me.. It def needs to be taken out of ranked. personally i hated duos in ranked. 3s and 4s are just that much worse.

Vaelentino8/1/2016, 7:17:27 AM1 votes

I play with rl friends a lot in 3-5 man parties and we don't do that to the random pickup we get... But i'm the one with insomnia and desire to keep playing when I shouldn't so I also solo que it a LOT in ranked, I totally feel you.

I don't think anything should change but when team reports go in because you're simply outnumbered, special consideration should be given when that report hits the tribunal.. mainly a check of the chat logs for that game... Anything you say or do is wrong if it goes against one of the pre made members.

But we're so different from this when we que together, the moment i get salty my friends know to just tell people to mute me, lol.