For the love of god, add a report option to champ select.

The Brometheus··106 votes·3,725 views

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Icy Hot Shoto12 votes

Except reporting people DOES do things. But you only get notified if it's YOUR report that leads to the ban which is why everyone seems to think reporting does shit imo.

MrWasjig7 votes

That's because it does feel like it does shit. It feels massively hollow and if anything, token.

Not to say it IS useless but most of the time it just feels like a placebo. Just the other day there was a major troll on our team and post-game someone on our team said "I won't bother reporting them, it won't do anything"

Just wanna bring up this feeling :P

Chaotic Sage1 votes

You should probably look up the meaning of fact...

MrWasjig3 votes

Okay so the closing sentence was poorly worded. Changed so people don't shit themselves over it.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

The FACT that you think it was a sentence structure issue is what really concerns me.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Why be so rude?

MrWasjig3 votes

http://devstickers.com/assets/img/cat/grammar-nazi.png

Grammar Nazi Alert! The point is still there, just take it and be happy. Jeez.

MegaShroom90004 votes

Reporting is needed on both the champ select and the end game summary screen. People are the biggest jerks on those two screens because they believe they are not reportable offenses that can be verified. It shouldn't be hard for RIOT to transfer chat text down through the end screen so a report can be validated.

Icy Hot Shoto3 votes

There's a thing called screen shots, and there's plenty of time to hit 1 or 2 buttons to do so. I have MS Paint pinned to my task bar for this very reason, that way if I need to take multiple screen shots I just click the icon a few times, hit paste, screen shot, open empty paint tab, paste, repeat. If I only need one then I take the screen shot and wait until I'm in the vs screen to put it into paint and save.

Same for the end game chat. After that you just upload to a image hosting site and either add them to the end game report OR send in a support ticket stating what happened with links to the images.

Congrats, you just helped the community.

mason water2 votes

uhuh, im going to go through all that to "report" people. i say "report" cause nothing ever happens when you report people, its a fact.

Lord Ewok8 votes

You're extremely slow if you actually think that's the case. Buddy of mine had 4 accts perma banned for being toxic.

Aradia Megido1 votes

Aside from the subject, why in the world would your buddy be toxic?

Steven Mcburn1 votes

Riot doesn't actually do anything with screenshots.

I sent in a host of screenshots for a ticket a couple of weeks ago when a duo queue were making jokes about raping children, killing themselves, and then even after the game was over spamming friend requests for the other 3 of us that were in game with them.

Not only have the game-reports lead to no ban, but the ticket was answered and all the accounts in question (part of the problem is "we have more than one account so we don't care if you report us in game", they used 6 total accounts to spam people) and since it's been 2 weeks and all the accounts have played daily since then nothing was done.

Hell, the support portion doesn't even have a report part in the selection anymore. They don't care, they don't want to pretend to care anymore.

Reports after games eventually lead to chat suspensions and bans, but submitting tickets over it means nothing.

aj502 Oneill1 votes

Hell, the support portion doesn't even have a report part in the selection anymore. They don't care, they don't want to pretend to care anymore.

That's not true...Unless they were lying ofc.

I've had support personally tell me that screenshots are absolutely fine way to report someone.

Steven Mcburn1 votes

In the drag down box for submitting a ticket, which category.

There used to be "report a player", now there isn't.

aj502 Oneill1 votes

That's too bad they removed it...Hang on, I'll hunt down the reply I got from them when i specifically asked about this...

aj502 Oneill1 votes

Here's the tail end of a discussion i was having with a RITO Support:

aj502 January 26, 2016 16:56

Hiya Legendary, How about these screenshots, do they do any good or am I wasting my time? Where/who do I submit them to?

BTW - players showed they were going to troll in the old select as well... Perhaps a pregame report option for legit dodging, but I'm sure people would unnecessarily troll that as well.

Legendary January 27, 2016 17:10

Greetings player,

Screenshots for these types cases where there aren't reporting options are appreciated as they can help speed up our investigation. You can submit them through our Support Site and they will be flagged for review by the appropriate team.

Trolling did happen a lot in the old Champion select and it is part of the reason we created this new Champion select where players can queue up for 2 roles they want to play so there isn't as much conflict over who goes where. Of course there will be always those players who want to ruin the game or abuse the system but they are in the minority and we will continue to take any necessary action on those players.

A pregame report for when someone has to dodge is something that has been brought up before and as you said making such a system not easily abused would be important if we ever added that option.

Legendary Player Behavior & Game Support Jarvan IV Jungle "For the King!"

aj502 January 27, 2016 17:34

Ok, last question and I let this go: What do i select when submitting a screenshot? None on the options in the drop down is fitting for reporting a toxic/troll player...

Thanks

Legendary January 28, 2016 10:39

Greetings again,

We don't have a direct option for reporting players though Support as the majority of cases should go through our after game reporting feature. However, if you have cases where you can't use that feature then you can use the category Game and features-> General question. The report will get reviewed and flagged for further investigation, keep in mind that this isn't a guarantee that the report will always result in a punishment.

Legendary Player Behavior & Game Support Jarvan IV Jungle "For the King!"

Troll for Trump1 votes

While that is what many white knights will copy+paste out, you go through a lot of trouble for a really inefficient, clunky system. They also removed the category, as was mentioned. They are slow to reply, and often just put a bot message in. You have to be really persistent. Most people aren't that overzealous to weed out one toxic person. Especially when they see another one even more toxic than the last the very next game.

Riot Support can be....incompetent, to say the least. At least sometimes.

No flash no life2 votes

The problem with that is reporting someone during champ select isn't going to prevent the game from starting with the team you have. If anything, the team that otherwise would've worked would be on tilt if someone reported a teammate. I see a big abuse potential for trolls to spam report, watch ppl dodge cuz they know they're running into a troll, then laugh about it.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

This is exactly the problem I see there being.

Kaitri2 votes

"hey guys i just picked support as 1. role to get into a gamer faster can i go mid pls?" uhm no im mid "well fuck you i just troll and feed your lane then enjoy your game"

yea we need a report button. and if someone says stuff like this the "instand feedback system" should just kick them out of the lobby. please riot.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

That would be hilariously abused...

Kaitri1 votes

how? you dont get kicked until you say "feed/feeding" and since the system is so good it should be able to check if you say "please dont feed" or if you say "im gonna feed"

Chaotic Sage1 votes

'I'm gonna f33d' 'feeding, I will be doing this game.' 'I w i l l f e e d' 'I'm g o n n a f e e d' I think you see where I'm going with this. It's the same principle of avoiding the chat filter to be able to curse at people. The system won't be able to detect anyone that pays attention to how it works and it's not smart enough to detect all the iterations.

Kaitri1 votes

as far as i know the chat system is supposed to understand this. at least i saw chatlogs of a guy spelling n i g . . . a letter each line and still they got him.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

Yea, not gonna believe that unless you have proof. Cool story though.

Kaitri1 votes

its on this board here you just gotta search lol.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

Burden of proof is on the person claiming something...provide the link or I'm not gonna believe it at all.

Aerilus1 votes

String searching is very easy programming. Whether they used it or not is another thing

Draigo2 votes

People in this thread: What does a report button at the start give you that a report at the end wont? Seriously, do we think that reporting people will just magically restart the game? If thats the case, get ready for people to start scapegoat reporting en mass to dodge bad champ selects. Otherwise, just report them at the end of the game if they dont go to their assigned role.

ITS MOIST OK1 votes

It's so just in case someone dodges. At least thats what I take from it.

Ada Wong2 votes

Please allow a Vote Disband, I have had over 5+ toxic match-ups today with players due to champion select, players not taking the game seriously games with 3-4 ADC's (USELESS Supports & Troll Junglers.) Please.

Some of us are seriously trying to advance but there is always just that one player in the game with us throwing hard by choosing a champion that completely does not benefit the team in any way.

Simple and short, I had a player telling me I couldn't tell them what to play in a game when I suggested they go something decent so I could play a tank cuz I would be the only one playing a tank on our team they refused, they started raging late game on me cuz we were going to lose (Zero Ganks from jungler.) enemy allowed to get way ahead even though I farm under tower , as a result we lose.

But before the loss they get raging at me for their loss and I was like you said you can play anything you like regardless of what anyone says so can I and then more threats to be reported cuz they refused to even try to setup a team comp.

Edit out of 5+ games even though I knew we were going to lose one of our games had like 4 ADC's we just played no one actually raged.

3221slyfoxhomie1 votes

it's needed not a maybe.

people troll too hard in champ select or just plain be jerks

there's nothing saying i cannot pick troll mundo whose going mix of ap and health and losing due to a lack of a real build and theres no way to avoid me if you even dodge once to a bad team comp .DrMundo item 3020 item 3151 item 3001 item 3116

Wimbledofy1 votes

liandry's and abyssal kinda already work on mundo.

aj502 Oneill1 votes

Besides the boots, those items are ok...Maybe vs a certain enemy and with the right comp, even good...Hell, the boots might even be good there...

People trip on me doing a Tank Teemo build but I'll do it if the situation fits and it works better than the "regular" Teemo build(s).

Gnart Even Close1 votes

it should only be in ranked, and there should be a monthly limit to how many reports you can have per month. this would be to avoid people getting upset for other people doing "fun" builds in normals, which is completely fine as long as they don't intentionally feed or flame. however, in ranked, these builds should not be encouraged since they are not as good as other builds, and so people shouldn't have to deal with that handicap. if someone is toxic for example, then they should be able to be reported. if there were 2 reports per month in ranked, you would be forced to save your reports. and of course if the person reported was punished, you would be given one more report for that month since you have shown you're not abusing it

Draigo2 votes

Umm no? Riot has repeatedly stated that you will not get punished for champion select. Doesnt matter if youre in the last game of your challenger promos and the jungler goes Janna. Its not an offense. Only thing thats changed is that you have to go to your assigned role. How you do it is up to you, even if your strategy is horrible.

Chaotic Sage1 votes

Can I get a source to where a Rioter specifically said this?

Gnart Even Close1 votes

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Umm no? Riot has repeatedly stated that you will not get punished for champion select. Doesnt matter if youre in the last game of your challenger promos and the jungler goes Janna. Its not an offense. Only thing thats changed is that you have to go to your assigned role. How you do it is up to you, even if your strategy is horrible.

going janna jungle in ranked should be a reportable offense unless if you have lots of experience doing it. and let's be real, very very few people do. so i think it would be fair to report a janna jungle, and the report could be dismissed later if the person did well or had experience doing it before but had a bad game. janna jungle is for normals, not for ranked

Janna Juggs1 votes

I always thought it would be nice if there was an option to dodge as a team, like a 3 of 5 vote. That way if there is a troll and you are in promos you have the option to dodge as a team and no one get a counter. It may not work out practically but it was a good thought to me.

Lumen Sage1 votes

"Oh shit they just counter picked our team, dodge time!"

Yeah, doubt it would work in practice.

iainB851 votes

I will be seriously pissed if this is not an option in the new client.

NotClarkolas1 votes

Why would riot ever punish actual game-ruining behaviour? I think this is a troll post.

Lordllo1 votes

Upvoted.

Banuvan1 votes

Been asking for something like this for years and Rito refuses. They also refuse to allow toxic players to be kicked out of champ select. It would be nice if 4 people voted to kick somebody in champ select they got a break from ranked like if you dodge. Would be so nice to be able to dodge games without penalty this way on crappy people before you have to sit in the game for 20+ minutes.

SoMNia1 votes

If it can immediately kick someone and/or cancel the match without penalty, it can be abused. If it can't, it's no different from reporting after the match.

Ada Wong1 votes

I agree we need a report option there are too many frigging trolls right now, and players who argue, and I can't dodge all the games because of the damn penalty, I have seen the most awful thing of having 3 matches where we had 3 or 4 ADC champions no joke, No Crowed Control at all, and throwing off games.

I had a Xinzhao come in my game tell me not to push, miss CS because of him, then he runs in my lane dives the tower and takes a perfectly good game that could have been won and throws the game for 3-4 of us other players.

It just feels like players are not taking the game seriously right now and something needs to be done about it, its rather annoying to have players doing RANKED of all things and not even trying it comes to the point of what is Riot going to do about this.

Like I am perfectly fine with off meta stuff, but if players are not going to be serious about it, or use their brain of why it might be of use to the team in any way at all, then this game is just absolutely hopeless.

Been muting people in about 80% of my games should be enough to say something.

I also think allowing people to queue up in ranked with 2+ players is also creating toxicity in some cases higher than usual.

Lothàrs Edge1 votes

No... please. Then people will be even more ready to screw each other over.

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