Tl;Dr: For all the post from people who are surprised by being reported at negative/harassing, how you talk to people matters and you shouldn't be surprised when there are negative consequences.
I always say you can swear at situations but you should never swear at a person and I think that's about as basic as I can make any idea on this subject.
Anastaecia6 votesThe problem is that the people who would take the time to read the article and try to get something out of it already know it. The people that don't understand the concept of talking nice to others are going to be to narrow minded. The proof is right here in this thread. You are arguing with the exact type of person that the ban system is in place for, and you can just tell by their responses that they won't even attempt to see the logic.
Sleepyvolf1 votesYou aren't wrong. Maybe it's just because I have a 5 year old but when I see people arguing about the validity of their toxic ban then I have to bring up that they are responsible for their own actions just like I have to remind him of that countless times.
Their are no surprises, outrage isn't warranted, the only time you can talk freely in chat is with a premade that you know pretty well who all know what you mean when you say words.
Mob Piru1 votesu wanna know what cyber bullying is. holding ur team hostage in a game for 40 minutes because u wanna troll. picking trolls picks then feeding then DC from game, thats bullying because u legit are wasting the other persons time and they have no control over it.
u wanna know whats not bullying, typing ina chat where U DONT HAVE TO READ IT AND U CAN USE THE MUTE BUTTON, LIKE SNOWFLAKES PLS LOL
Sleepyvolf1 votesBoth situations you have a choice in I'd say. I'm not even arguing for the sake of reporting the behavior. All I'm stating is that you create a liability for yourself to be reported when you cannot restrain what you type in the chat and that there isn't too much to be confused about.
I will succeed to part of your point that their is a problem in MOBAs where you are held hostage by troll players because of the AFK requirement rules. But I cannot agree that it is bullying. You also chose to play a game knowing that trolls can and are almost always inevitable for 40 minutes of your life, it's the Kierkegaard idea of regret past that point.
Case in point, I chose to write a post about psychoanalysis of behavior on a board that is hostile towards those sort of things and I can guarantee with certainty that there will be hellfire for this post. But I cannot blame the people for being angry (actually I don't know how to classify them as anger doesn't seem to be the encompassing feeling.) But I know that it was my choice so I have voided the right to be angry.
DBS Ronovon2 votesCyber bullying? Come on guy.
Sleepyvolf1 votesI can't speak to the cyber bullying bit other than the report of people using address finding software and phone software that will call the emergency services acting as you.
Again, not arguing as a right or wrong, just arguing that by definition even if you have every right in the world to be upset you create liability for yourself by the guidelines that Riot has set up and you shouldn't be surprised.
It's like the zero tolerance policy that American Schools use. It doesn't matter the context. There is no wiggle room.
Mob Piru1 votessome people like to be shitted on. other people wont tolerate it. and will voice their frustration. not everyone can just sit there and take it. now i can understand if they go overboard and dont shut up about it thats different. but if u make 1 or 2 comments about it in game who the hell cares
Sleepyvolf2 votesAbsolutely agreed. This game is competitive by nature and your body is sure to be using at least a percentage of adrenaline to perform the task which puts you in the fight or flight state or "on edge."
This post is just a response to the confusion that I see on here. Even if it's one time that you decide to type something out of purely justified rage you create liability for yourself and it doesn't matter how right you were on a technical, or even logical, level.
I have been tilted a few times and if I ever got reported for what I said I would not be confused as to how I landed a report.
DBS Ronovon1 votesThis game is not competitive. Don’t say it is, thanks.
Sleepyvolf1 votesBy what definition is it not?
DBS Ronovon1 votesBy the existence of MMR stacking teams, shut down gold, and turret shields. Those by the vary nature of their intention makes the game not competitive. You can’t rely on skill, you have to fall victim to the random selection of shut down gold, time, and MMR allowing feeders/afkers on your team or the other.
NOT COMPETITVE.
does that make sense of shall I elaborate further as to why these are not competitive with analogy?
Anastaecia3 votes[{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iquV7NEm,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-18T16:21:38.703+0000)
By the existence of MMR stacking teams, shut down gold, and turret shields. Those by the vary nature of their intention makes the game not competitive. You can’t rely on skill, you have to fall victim to the random selection of shut down gold, time, and MMR allowing feeders/afkers on your team or the other.
NOT COMPETITVE.
does that make sense of shall I elaborate further as to why these are not competitive with analogy?
Any game where two individuals/parties try to beat the other is competitive by definition. Just because there are some neutral factors in there doesn't change anything. Both teams are Competing.
DBS Ronovon1 votesYou’re so sure of yourself that you’ll answer my question then.
If a foot ball team in the NFL scores 5 touch downs, and it’s past halftime, and the other team makes a comeback by scoring 2 touch downs worth 3 times the points, is that fair?
If you do think it’s fair, why isn’t it used in any comptitive games or sports?
ModPeriscope2 votesBut that team isn't stronger just because they've scored more points, whereas in league your power grows every time you get a kill
Anastaecia2 votes[{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iquV7NEm,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-18T16:50:39.896+0000)
You’re so sure of yourself that you’ll answer my question then.
If a foot ball team in the NFL scores 5 touch downs, and it’s past halftime, and the other team makes a comeback by scoring 2 touch downs worth 3 times the points, is that fair?
If you do think it’s fair, why isn’t it used in any comptitive games or sports?
Three point line. But anyway, you are talking about points in football that directly determine the outcome. A champ getting a little extra gold for a bounty does not directly harm the enemy Nexus. If you want to compare apples to apples, I would say bounty gold is more akin to a penalty in football. One penalty prob won't hurt you. One death with a bounty on your head will help the enemy team a little, but it's not going to swing the game.
Chermorg4 votesShut down gold is not random? MMR doesn’t have anything to do with feeders or AFKers?
DBS Ronovon1 votesMMR is random. It chooses the teams for you, because in Solo/Duo queue, I’m not choosing my teams, the MMR is based on how good I’ve been playing (wins) which is not competitve. If it was competitve, then I’d play against people in my own division until I made promos to the next division, not the way it is now where you can be matched against people 1 or 2 divisions higher than you.
Not competitve, it just brings you up if you’re a loser and pushes you down if you’re a winner.
Shut down gold punishes good players.
How?
If I am beating someone’s ass because I’m good at the game, well guess what, the shut down gold negates that skill and lead advantage by giving a bonus to the other team for playing well.
Does that make sense to you now that I’ve explained it?
DBS Ronovon1 votesTalk about in game meta stuff and leave out other small talk unless you’re saying D suck stuff to get your team to love each other.
DBS Ronovon1 votesCyber bullying is a joke, parents need to get better at their job.