What is riot's policy against intentional afking in ranked?.

MunchCrunchLunch·Sep 22, 2016·3 votes·680 views

? c'mon porocles. you like to answer threads on this forum don't you.

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20163 votes

why dont you try it and see how many it takes as a experiment?

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

i dont afk in ranked. or in normals unless i have an emergency. i dont afk after giving fb

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

never said you did... but you wanna know so give it a try and see and report back with an update

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

not a smart idea for obvious reasons

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20162 votes

only way to know... create a smurf get it to rank and do it, if it gets ban whatever it wasnt your main there are ways to test your question

Deep Terror NamiSep 22, 20165 votes

Please do not advise people to test the system.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

he wants a solution , an answer to his problem/question... i gave him a logical way to achieve it

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20163 votes

if i teach someone how to shoot a gun and they go out and kill people with that gun breaking laws dont mean im responsible for their behavior. i have no control over that this person does. i didnt tell him to do it.. i just told him how to to do it.

Deep Terror NamiSep 22, 20162 votes

In the scenario you presented you aren't teaching them how to do it in a harmful fashion. Telling them to intentionally afk in Ranked (which directly affects other players) would be in your scenario the same as telling them to go practice by shooting people.

Not xPekeSep 22, 20161 votes

your logic is so flawed.. I can't even.. I can't.. I... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

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your logic is so flawed.. I can't even.. I can't.. I... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

plz explain how itis flawed

Not xPekeSep 22, 20161 votes

You're not simply teaching them how to shoot a gun, you're basically actively telling them to go do it. There's a difference.

If you ask people to test the system by going out to intentionally feed and see if they get banned, you are not just teaching someone how to shoot. You are telling them to do it and see what happens.

The correct comparison to your logic is telling someone HOW to intentionally feed, for example: run down mid, tower dive, etc. And that's not what you said. You told them to intentionally feed and see the result. You didn't teach them HOW to shoot or HOW to intentionally feed.

also the guy that replied to you said the same thing, so I feel this explaination is pointless.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

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You're not simply teaching them how to shoot a gun, you're basically actively telling them to go do it. There's a difference.

If you ask people to test the system by going out to intentionally feed and see if they get banned, you are not just teaching someone how to shoot. You are telling them to do it and see what happens.

The correct comparison to your logic is telling someone HOW to intentionally feed, for example: run down mid, tower dive, etc. And that's not what you said. You told them to intentionally feed and see the result. You didn't teach them HOW to shoot or HOW to intentionally feed.

also the guy that replied to you said the same thing, so I feel this explaination is pointless.

i stated that if he wanted to know to do it. cuz there is no other way to find out... i never said i was for him doing it.

Not xPekeSep 22, 20161 votes

You don't understand.

You can't give that "advice" and then wash your hands from it.

Either don't say that at all, or stand by what you said. It's simple. If you aren't for him doing it you shouldn't even have brough it up at all.

Going back to your comparison, if you aren't for someone going somewhere and shooting people, you wouldn't tell them that's an option at all. The same for intentionally feeding.

Do you know that sometimes a person tells a depressed friend/girlfriend/boyfriend to go kill themselves during an argument and they end up doing it? Happens occasionally and it makes news.

Anyway, do you know the first person the police will come to find if this comes out? They'll come for you. You saying "I never said I was for him/her doing it" won't change the fact that you TOLD them to do it, or anyway gave them the option or possibility of doing so. Whatevery they end up doing is on your hands if they are troubled, mentally unstable, etc.

Extreme example but I hope you get my point, the principle is the same, you basically told him to Intentionally feed if he wants a solution to his question. While I see what you're trying to say, it's the wrong way to go about it, that's all.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

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You don't understand.

You can't give that "advice" and then wash your hands from it.

Either don't say that at all, or stand by what you said. It's simple. If you aren't for him doing it you shouldn't even have brough it up at all.

Going back to your comparison, if you aren't for someone going somewhere and shooting people, you wouldn't tell them that's an option at all. The same for intentionally feeding.

Do you know that sometimes a person tells a depressed friend/girlfriend/boyfriend to go kill themselves during an argument and they end up doing it? Happens occasionally and it makes news.

Anyway, do you know the first person the police will come to find if this comes out? They'll come for you. You saying "I never said I was for him/her doing it" won't change the fact that you TOLD them to do it, or anyway gave them the option or possibility of doing so.

Extreme example but I hope you get my point, the principle is the same, you basically told him to Intentionally feed if he wouldn't a solution to his question. While I see what you're trying to say, it's the wrong way to go about it, that's all.

i didnt buy the gun, i didnt buy the ammo , i didnt load the gun, i didnt take it out pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger. i am not responsibly for what someone else chooses to do .

just as if i was to teach you how to make your car perform better and go faster ( auto tech for dealership profession btw) dont mean im the one made you go 50 mph over the speed limit drag racing someone in a school zone you took that matter into your own hands.

Not xPekeSep 22, 20161 votes

Just like you didn't tie the rope around a person's neck that later on killed himself right? Except you might have told him to do so during an argument (for example). You didn't physically kill that person, but you basically did. Trust me that's actually a legal thing and people do get punished/arrested/sued for "telling people to kill themselves". And it's the same case here.

Like I said, it is indeed an extreme example, but that logic/principle remains, and is applicable to other scenarios like this one (in my opinion).

As for your gun comparison, I already explained it to you. Your initial comparison is not correct. You telling the OP to get a smurf and intentionally feed in Ranked is NOT equal to you teaching someone how to shoot. It would be closer to you telling someone to test by shooting people.

If what you truly wanted to do was teach someone how to shoot you would have simply told him the definition of intentional feeding and how to do it. THAT would be teaching someone how to shoot in your analogy. (like the guy earlier said to you as well).

Do you see what I mean?

Gary B EnkelisSep 23, 20161 votes

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i didnt tell him to do it..

Except you did.

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why dont you try it and see how many it takes as a experiment?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 23, 20161 votes

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Except you did.

yet if he does it he does it on his own free will and thought.... he is the one to make the decision to do it or not.... its not like i have brain washed him and made him my bitch where he follows my orders and if he does do it... he gets banned. so wheres the harm

and oh

the devil ways are divine sometimes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Gary B EnkelisSep 23, 20161 votes

Your very first post was telling them to try.

I'm just pointing out when you say you didn't tell them to do it... that you did... and then you gave them information on how to.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 23, 20161 votes

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Your very first post was telling them to try.

I'm just pointing out when you say you didn't tell them to do it... that you did... and then you gave them information on how to.

But if he does it, he is at fault did it on his own free will

Gary B EnkelisSep 23, 20161 votes

Ok, whatever. You said you didn't tell them to do it and you clearly did. Or you suggested it, anyway.

Actually it became less of a suggestion here...

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never said you did... but you wanna know so give it a try and see and report back with an update

Ehh whatever. You're probably right and I'm probably misunderstanding. Give this enough time and all kinds of interpretations are possible, probably. I dunno.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 23, 20161 votes

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Ok, whatever. You said you didn't tell them to do it and you clearly did. Or you suggested it, anyway.

Hey i might suggest that you smuggle heroin in your anus, tell you how to do it,introduce you to suppliers it is still up to you to shove it up your ass and do it

Gary B EnkelisSep 23, 20161 votes

Look, I understand you don't want to take responsibility for your actions. That's besides the point though.

You wrote you never told them to do something, but your writing told them to do something.

Whether they do it or not does not matter. You are saying you didn't do a thing that you did do.

I'm misunderstanding probably. You suggested they do something. I dunno. Sorry...

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20162 votes

i understand that AFKing at all is consider a no no

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

thats not a clear answer. i want to understand. what is the punishment. and how many times does a person have to afk in a match to get that punishment.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

punished how? low queue priority ? banning etc?

nm1010Sep 22, 20163 votes

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thats not a clear answer. i want to understand. what is the punishment. and how many times does a person have to afk in a match to get that punishment.

They won't tell you that because it'll be abused.

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

typical legal matter should apply here. and everyone should know. what the laws and the punishments are. thats bs.

nm1010Sep 22, 20161 votes

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typical legal matter should apply here. and everyone should know. what the laws and the punishments are. thats bs.

Legal matters typically have sway too, ever had a warning for speeding? We know it's more than 1 game and the punishment isn't going to be pleasant.

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

yes. its called the speed limit. there are signs for that. and there are "Fines doubled". signs. and these fins are standard by region. you live under a rock?

nm1010Sep 22, 20161 votes

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yes. its called the speed limit. there are signs for that. and there are "Fines doubled". signs. and these fins are standard by region. you live under a rock?

A warning, as in a cop pulled you over and let you go without a ticket.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

the warning is the one you get by getting the driver license and accepting the conditions to be a licensed driver on public streets. when you get pulled over and let go... the cop just dont wanna do the paper work... lunch time is coming up or shift change.

nm1010Sep 22, 20161 votes

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the warning is the one you get by getting the driver license and accepting the conditions to be a licensed driver on public streets. when you get pulled over and let go... the cop just dont wanna do the paper work... lunch time is coming up or shift change.

Believe it or not most cops don't like giving tickets for minor infractions. If you cooperate and be polite you can get off at least 75% of the time. It is similar here, if you don't afk often and aren't toxic chances are you won't get banned. Once the system (or cop) starts seeing you a 2nd or 3rd time you are probably shit out of luck.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

i dont disagree but when people cry about getting popped saying they got no warning .... well you accepted the terms and conditions of being a player on league they have it in writing and posted on the website of what is and isnt allowed. just cuz you chose to ignore it dont mean you didnt get the information.

nm1010Sep 22, 20161 votes

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i dont disagree but when people cry about getting popped saying they got no warning .... well you accepted the terms and conditions of being a player on league they have it in writing and posted on the website of what is and isnt allowed. just cuz you chose to ignore it dont mean you didnt get the information.

Oh definitely you can get a punishment on the first offense and that is fair for the reasons you said. Basically the best way to not get punished is to not break the rules.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 22, 20161 votes

yes sir [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

archerno1Sep 22, 20161 votes

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thats not a clear answer. i want to understand. what is the punishment. and how many times does a person have to afk in a match to get that punishment.

Couple of times,once in a while, there is no punishment. Frequent afking results in low priority queue. There is no such thing as " intentional afking". All afking is intentional. There is no difference between afking in ranked and any other mode (even bots). Punishment is same.

GaleWinUnleashedSep 22, 20162 votes

The same as the policy about AFKing in any other game mode: it will be punished if done too often, on top of the low-priority queue that comes with it.

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

thats fantastic. might as well give them a lollipop and a tap on the shoulder

GaleWinUnleashedSep 22, 20164 votes

We don't get specifics so we can't have players that go "oh, I haven't used up my quota this week, I can ditch this game and get away with it".

EvilDustManSep 22, 20163 votes

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thats fantastic. might as well give them a lollipop and a tap on the shoulder

Because Riot is understanding if you have to afk. But if you do it regularly, it becomes a pain in the ass. Unlike being toxic or intentionally feeding, afk can happen for a good reason and usually isn't anyone's fault.(edit: on second thought, it is usually because of poor planning on the player, I know some younger players who start games when they shouldn't. But emergencies do happen.)

I've stopped playing for a while because I would just have to afk every 1 in 5 games.

BIackfoxSep 22, 20161 votes

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The same as the policy about AFKing in any other game mode: it will be punished if done too often, on top of the low-priority queue that comes with it.

bullshit and I can prove it. I've gotten suspended for feeding after like 3 games before but I afk allllllllllllll the time, hell i just did today when top lane fed to hard at like 11 minutes. as long as I don't disconnect you cannot get in trouble. just attack a minion every few minutes.

Deep Terror NamiSep 22, 20161 votes

Porocles doesn't typically show up on PB&M at all, he's on Help & Support. I think you mean Tantram.

TheSequelsRBadSep 22, 20161 votes

Not sure exactly, but I think that first time is low priority queue, then it starts moving into temporary bans.

MagicFlyingLlamaSep 22, 20161 votes

Policy is B&

Morality CoachSep 22, 20161 votes

If your troll was to afk without flaming or telling on yourself in chat it's likely you would never be punished beyond the Leaver Buster system.

AFKs and laggers need to be punished worse than toxic people.

Maximum MordeSep 23, 20161 votes

Leaverbuster will auto punish them. It does take consistent afk behavior though. I've done it a few times myself and haven't been punished, but only because it is very rare. If you do it regularly you will see punishment.