Absolutely Unethical False Reports Actually Working
I haven't been toxic virtually at all but I've gotten false reports from salty players and got punished for it. The most I'd do in a game is suggest different build paths or what not to do with our comp. I don't do it in a way that personally attacks though. It's always about the gameplay itself, not the player. For example, I might say "Blowing Ori ult. 5v5 to try to turret dive a Nautilus under turret is a bad idea. We need to just whittle them down." I won't say "wow, you're bad as hell! wtf were you thinking? go back to Bronze noobs" If you are not even allowed to communicate gameplay related ideas (not ad hominems!), I don't see the purpose of a functional chat.
The pattern I notice is that when I am heavily harassed and do not take responsibility for the BS they accuse me of, I get reported even more (by the actually toxic players - to which I often said nothing for the entire game till they berate me). The Taric and Sivir in this game specifically said they'd try to get me banned and were whining ever since lobby (because I like playing AP Kog). I was constantly accused of trolling just due to a non-meta pick which I've mained past seasons. After the game, I got an instant chat restriction for the first time. This however, isn't the first time ragers said they'd try to get me banned through unjustified report. I've seen some similar cases too searching the forums.
In the game, I got camped by Hecarim and Katarina got a lead off it. As an immobile mage, there wasn't much I could do. Quite a few of the times I died, I was nearly at my turret and Hecarim just ganked over the wall from our jungle. I absorbed 3 ganks before 7 minutes until finally dying. Hecarim E into Kat's mobility allows easy dives and I felt helpless against it. I was accused of trolling and inting (even after just 1 death). I didn't even die to Katarina solo during lane phase and had a CS + HP lead until the camp paid off. Every time I lost some pressure mid or died, my respawn timer was pinged by Sivir and Taric (who were also losing lane just straight 2v2) + some comment about how bad I am and what a troll I've been, how everyone should report me etc.
It's hard to understand chat in a vacuum and it's really disappointing that Riot doesn't provide at least anonymous context. I'm obviously not talking to a wall in the game. I feel like this is a huge disservice to honest evaluation since language is context dependent and you can't have a solo conversation without looking insane. It's basically rigged against you. You could be winning in the game by a large margin and when a fed carry dies for the first time, you type "feeder" as a joke. Later, however, the game is thrown and perhaps you're blamed for it. The false reports create an investigation and the chat analyzer decides you were toxic because you called someone a feeder even though any human in that game realizes it was a joke. They need to abandon this BS and bring back a system where you're judged by a community of your peers. Even one innocent player punished unfairly is worse than a dozen toxic players being correctly punished. They should at the very least have an appeal process which is actually valid (support just gives some generic copy pasted response and virtually never reverses a punishment or admits wrongdoing). It's fine to have an automated system for this stuff, but not by itself.
BTW: The comment saying "your build is very bad" was a reference to the hypothetical build he was demanding I go. I also don't think that's at all toxic because it's just my opinion that Morello and Rylai's are no longer good on AP Kog relative to the alternatives. He's not really a poke champion now. He's a burst + execute champion. The build I was doing is definitely much better and the top AP Kog in the world (he's D1 EUW & EUNE) explains why in his guide.
Here's the only chat log given:
Game 1 wobaji: hec burnted through all my pots sigh wobaji: no she didn't wobaji: she was losing wobaji: hec wone lane for her wobaji: can't doa nyhting 1v2 wobaji: wasn't even far wobaji: 3rd gnak wobaji: it wouldn't matter what i was wobaji: if i don't have an escape wobaji: if i were xerath wobaji: same thing wobaji: just jg autowinning a lane wobaji: zero counterplay to it wobaji: ifn immobile wobaji: mid's done off htat wobaji: but all our other alnes should be winning sicne hec ganked 3x mid before 7 min wobaji: that was in no way my fault wobaji: idk why you keep pinigng lmao wobaji: you're note ven winning bot solo wobaji: hec counterganks adn so he wins wobaji: because he already got fed earlier from camping wobaji: muting all wobaji: if you didn't want to play witha kog mid wobaji: you were free to judge wobaji: in champ select and dodge wobaji: if not, zero right to compalin wobaji: neither is sivir wobaji: i have issues because i don't like getting spam pinged my timer whenever i die>? wobaji: dude help push wobaji: hec wil kill m wobaji: it's fien wobaji: he left wobaji: btw, i realize ap kog's not the best but I enjoy playing him wobaji: before the reworks, he was 100% viable in any elo bust challenger wobaji: this was true wobaji: for 3 seasons wobaji: maybe more wobaji: lol wobaji: morello wobaji: your build is very bad wobaji: with mroello wobaji: or rylais wobaji: rylais used to be good before rework wobaji: mever doed sp;p wobaji: never died solo wobaji: so you tell me wobaji: 2 mid wobaji: 3 wobaji: shvoe bot wobaji: ? wobaji: that's the least of the issues wobaji: look at yourself wobaji: why don't you win lane when their jungler spends 10 minutes mid? wobaji: you even counter them wobaji: E any hook wobaji: if taric gets grabbed, it's a free win wobaji: etc. wobaji: rammus, where's your stattik shiv? you need to carry this wobaji: at least i got 11 now wobaji: nope wobaji: i didn't even play badly tbh wobaji: not much i can do wobaji: no, just reality wobaji: what do you want me to do vs hec diving + kat ult wobaji: ? wobaji: hec still focusses me wobaji: event hoguh i'm weak wobaji: not really wobaji: took him 10 sec wobaji: i have hp wobaji: sivir si easier wobaji: sivir is squisheir wobaji: if he were divign her wobaji: how is that my fault in any way whatsoever? wobaji: i die warding near my base and so sivir harasses me wobaji: as if that's somehow inting or in any way my fautl wobaji: i get turret dived, more harassment wobaji: and? wobaji: if i were xerath, do you think kat wouldn't kill me there or hec dives woudlnt' wrok? wobaji: if it's trolling, it's RIot's fault wobaji: he was viable AP since release till rework wobaji: pretty sure i even outdamaged this raging sivir wobaji: i never inted even once, they're just lyign
EDIT: For clarification, the comment about outdamaging Sivir was a response to being told that I was useless and did no damage. I ended up doing the most damage on our team but we were nearly 20k behind at the time of the comment. I was no serious threat to them.
I find it both hilarious and sad that I got punished here. I wasn't even retaliating. I was simply explaining the situation while waiting to respawn/walking to mid and being unfairly characterized as an inter/troll etc. (it was a blowout game all over the map). I'm sure that's not against any rule. When I responded less, those two resorted to all chat harassment and calls for reports on me. It feels like yet another case where the victim is the one blamed and punished. If someone doesn't like you in this game, it doesn't seem to matter whether they make unethical reports or not because there's no Tribunal anymore. There's no oversight, just some automated nonsense where the salty people reporting are judge, jury and executioner and your defense is nowhere to be found. There is no impartial jury giving you a fair trial.
If enough people get annoyed by you over time, all the BS reports actually lead to a punishment. There are plenty of games where I say "my bad" and take responsibility for mistakes. That's not required but I have no problem with that. However, I won't take responsibility for what I don't think is in my control. These toxic players are furious when you refuse to be their scapegoat so they report you. It's also quite funny that I had this Sivir next game as a Thresh and carried that game with AP Kog. This time he harassed his ADC more but also berated me in lobby and near the start of the game. He only raged less when it was clear we'd win but even in that game, after he fails a play mid (with me under turret with a wave), he starts raging at me. and calls for reports are issued.
