So since it is okay for RIOT to call ALL new players "Noobs" both in Ads and in there welcome screen when you first attempt to download LOL does that know make it okay to call players in game "Noobs" with out repercussion of a report/banned?
ModThe Djinn5 votesThere's a difference between "noob" as an insult and "noob" as a identifier. The ad is aimed specifically at people who have never played before -- i.e. noobs, by gaming definition. Using it in-game is, 90% of the time, intended as an insulting commentary on someone's in-game play.
"That was a noob mistake I made there" is fine, as is saying "sorry about my friend top lane. He's a noob and is learning the lane"...provided your friend is a new player or new to the lane, but don't use it in an insulting fashion. That's the key difference -- most times players use the term they're using it as an insult.
Galactic Dong1 votesOh like that was "a noob ad mistake riot made"?
ModPeriscope1 votesThey're not new to making ads, so yea, that would be insulting.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesBut who is the judge on what is a identifier and insult??? and why is RIOT allowed to call people "noobs" and "Identify" people as such but the player base is not?
Romans VI XXIII2 votesyour basicly saying its okay to call someone a noob IF they are NEW, if an experienced MOBA player is new to LOL can you call them a noob for a mistake?
Silent Gravity1 votesCalling someone noob for a mistake is an insult, because you're insulting them for making a mistake.
That is not identifying them as new to the game.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesRiot continuesly calls people noobs in there ads as they make mistake after mistake.
ModPeriscope1 votesI agree. There's plenty of context to the ad that Riot was gearing it toward new people.
FOR JUSTICE4 votesWhen your logic just exploded my mind, because when they do it, its to embrace new expiriences, but when i do it, its harassment
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Modi2 votesThe official term newbie (colloquially shortened to newb, noob, n00b, etc) has been in use for much longer than its slang use in the internet. It literally means "someone new to something". In this case, the way you say it matters. If you say
You're such a fucking noob
That is not acceptable. If instead you say
That's ok, we all make noob mistakes
That is acceptable.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesYou're such a fucking noob
that is an insult due to "fucking" if you had said " you're such a noob" is that not acceptable?
Modi2 votesThat would depend on the context. Since context is not 100% able to be inferred, it is best to steer clear from saying it like that. If I would hazard a guess, the vast majority (> 90%) of the situations where someone says that in LoL, it is meant to be an insult.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesRiot calls out players mistakes over and over in the ad, by calling them a noob......
Telephone Booth1 votesDepends on the context. If someone says they're new, yes you can call them noob, as long as it's not in a demeaning way. If you use noob to identify someone as a bad player, yes that's insulting and will still be considered toxic. Please try to use logic and context to understand things. Not everything is always bad or always good.
Romans VI XXIII1 votescalling some one a noob regardless of your intentions is all in the eye of the beholder. calling some one a noob cause they played bad is the same as calling new player a noob cause they don't know how to play, hence they played bad.
I am using logic, your saying that its okay to call some one a noob IF they are new, and they played bad. Thats not logical at all, cause not ALL new players are are bad, and if they make a mistake should they be called a noob, regardless of how experienced they are ate MOBAs?
Silent Gravity1 votesYou're not understanding the concept of not insulting people.
Don't insult people.
Don't call people out for making bad plays.
All instances of doing that will be classified as harassment.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesRiot calls out the new players when they make a mistake and calls them a noob. If it's okay for riot to do it why not the player base?
Telephone Booth1 votes[{quoted}](name=Arndt E Z,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fMIksmdQ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-11-07T03:15:14.317+0000)
calling some one a noob regardless of your intentions is all in the eye of the beholder. calling some one a noob cause they played bad is the same as calling new player a noob cause they don't know how to play, hence they played bad.
I am using logic, your saying that its okay to call some one a noob IF they are new, and they played bad. Thats not logical at all, cause not ALL new players are are bad, and if they make a mistake should they be called a noob, regardless of how experienced they are ate MOBAs?
But I said if you call someone a noob to imply they are bad, that's toxic... that's literally what I said.
I will apologize though, as I do get your point and I was maybe condescending saying "try to use logic..." Sorry.
I guess I just think of myself referring to myself as a noob when I play a new game. If someone called me a noob and I legit was a noob, I wouldn't feel insulted at all. However, if they didn't know me and didn't know I was new, I would take it as an insult, because that would mean they only think im a newb because they think I'm playing poorly.
Galactic Dong1 votesI love how many posts are talking about "context" but those same people say "context doesn't matter you shouldn't have said that" about reform cards and chat histories. Lol. Hypocritical much?
Silent Gravity1 votesThere are two different statements:
Context doesn't matter. There is no reason to insult/flame/ect.
Context determines if what you typed is an insult or not.
Galactic Dong1 votesThere's the third
3 Context determines whether you are flaming or not.
Someone that normally swears even during good times may seem like they're flaming if you have no context.
For example: Man at least I'm not a fucking feeder. LOL
With no context this would seem like flame. In context, the guy is saying this when he failed his own flash and is actually 0/7 because he's trying a new champ.
IFS system is busted.
Silent Gravity1 votesI've never seen the IFS punish for that.
I have seen it punish for calling other people feeders.
It looks to me like the IFS functions properly.
Galactic Dong1 votes"I've never seen the IFS punish for that." Didn't know you were the IFS monitor. Lol.
I have seen it do that.
So I assume since your "Looks to me like the IFS functions properly" is based on it not doing that, and I've informed you that it punishes people for things similar to this, you will acknowledge that it does not? Or will you at least acknowledge that if I am correct it is a bad system?
Edit: The third example differs because it is pointing out that sometimes context ALSO determines whether or not something one person would consider flaming is something another person would. My example was very black and white, but sometimes it is more gray. Some people are sarcastic by nature and may seem to be flaming when actually they just speak that way. Some people have dead pan humor and may speak as if they are insulting you but it is actually not an insult. Some people may ALWAYS be passionate and it is not actually flame.
"Hell YEAH good gank dude." "What the hell was that man?"
It's simply a pattern of speech they commonly use and not being toxic, unless saying HELL YEAH would also be toxic.
WatashiHawk1 votesCan we just be honest and say they are being hypocritical and it's okay for them since it's their game which doesn't make it right but still... I mean I've witness them do other things wrong but they are not perfect. It is their game though so...