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People need to chill the hell out.

Melledoneus··41 votes·3,555 views

Recently people are so angry and irritated and overall jerks in a lot of the games I play and see. I usually don't experience this because I'm in Bronze (Hell, I'm in Bronze for this reason, because of the nice people), but recently it's become a problem. And a recurring one at that. For example, one game I had...

Singed is AFK at the beginning of the game Shen Alright, be careful not to die. Shen We might have to remake. Ziggs stfu Ziggs he's reconnecting

Is it really warranted to be such a jerk to such a passive statement? I mean, jeez, calm down. Here's another one:

Galio /all gg this team is fucking garbo Galio /all Fuck this team LeeSin /all Dude your jungler camped your lane and you still lost... Khazix /all ^ Galio stfu Kha your fucking useless

Now, usually when I encounter people like this I just report and move on. But it's become concerning how status quo this attitude is becoming. In my past 15 games, 13 of them have had people like this. I've seen people in other videos adopting the same mentality. This behavior is not acceptable by any standard or in any case, and there are better ways to vent frustration (my favorite is singing a song about how stupid Vayne's damage is when she three shots me as a tank).

Guys, if you're somebody who is like this in-game, just stop. It's not going to make people listen to you, it's not going to make you feel better in the long run, and it sure as hell isn't going to fix that losing streak. And most of all, it isn't going to make you a better person or a better player.

So, in short: https://media.giphy.com/media/10QnBCa9QbQHiE/giphy.gif

69 Comments

MrNhbdy17 votes

"Toxic behavior" comes from the "I'm gonna be Faker( or insert pro here)" mentality, which means they don't care about the over-all point of the game ( work together to obtain goals). This mentality is also the reason why we don't have more supports. Everyone wants to be the best, but many don't understand you still can be by being supportive ( weather you are in the support role or not). This "I am a god, all hail me" type of acting needs to stop, flaming does not help, it only brings down teammates and causes them to loose focus by having arguments in chat.

Damagefox2 votes

I am a support but I kinda hate it.

  • My pings are ignored, -I am treated like the lane punching bag. -If anything goes wrong its automatically my fault (As the support) -If the team loses, I am the "useless trash support" that needs to be reported.

People dont want to play support because playing support means you are treated like not even part of the team. People come into a team game and turn it into a free for all.

Tentacle Advisor2 votes

{quoted}

  • My pings are ignored,

This point, right here, struck me in my very soul.

BlackHairedGirl1 votes

I'm a support main, and I feel you. So. Much. If something goes wrong, everything is on CD for me, my heals and peels, the team screeches out at me "HEAL ME YOU USELESS PIECE OF TRASH", and when I ping my CD, they're still screeching out for me to pull some third, fourth and fifth summoner's heal out of my butt. Pings. How can I begin to describe my own pings. Me: "Get back!" Person I'm Telling to Get Back: goes into the enemy jungle to invade on their own, the middle finger pointed to their monitor.

AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN

STOP

Tentacle Advisor13 votes

I cannot quite express just how accurate this is. And this is coming from a support main. (Or, at least, an in-training-to-be support main)

But, you are absolutely right about the "it only brings down teammates" part. Honestly, this is probably the most important part of why toxic players should simply stop being toxic. Their comments do nothing but distract their teammates. But then, if their teammate mutes them, they begin spamming "mia" pings all game. That is a problem for two reasons. One, it causes the teammate to lose focus for that moment since they'll initially believe that they are legit being warned about upcoming ganks/danger. And, two, it's just pure irritating and could tilt that player.

What I hate the most in toxic players is the fact that when they start getting tilted, instead of changing their playstyle from aggro-to-passive (or even passive-to-aggro, if that happens to be the problem), they just start flaming their team. Not even for what is happening in their own lane, but for things that their teammates are doing. (No matter whether it's good or bad.)

If their teammate does something good, the toxic player will say something along the lines of "Oh, finally this [insert champ name here] wants to be useful." Like, why even comment on someone else's 'usefulness' if you're doing poorly, yourself? You have no reason, nor right, to do so.

If their teammate does something bad, the toxic player will say something along the lines of "Oh my god, this f-ing [insert champ name here] is so garbage. Why are you even playing [insert role here]? You suck at it." All the while, that toxic player is still doing terribly, and most of the time, worse because their attention is now where it shouldn't be: on their team.

What makes all this worse is that I've been in a couple games where even the Support (during the rare times I don't get it) on my team, complains that the team isn't doing anything. Meanwhile that same support isn't warding, isn't healing (if applicable), isn't tanking properly (going in at inopportune times or just running from fights altogether), isn't shifting their kit over to anyone other than the adc at times where it'd be more beneficial for fights and such, etc. They just go to town in chat (all-chat, to be more specific) about how everyone else in the game is performing.

You mentioned the following:

"'Toxic behavior' comes from the 'I'm gonna be Faker( or insert pro here)' mentality...This "I am a god, all hail me" type of acting..."

This can actually be summed up with a quote from the movie "The Incredibles" where Syndrome stated:

"And when everyone's super. No one will be."

This is actually true to League's toxic players. They all believe they are the best and completely ignore the fact that League is a team game. When they feel like they aren't the best or more "Super" than another player, they flame. Because they truly believe flaming will force their competition to be less "Super". It's almost like a very quickly spreading disease, in my opinion.

MrNhbdy3 votes

Omg your post is so beautiful.....the word perfection does it shame....

I am going to add you when I get a chance dude!

-tears of joy-

Tentacle Advisor2 votes

Believe it or not, I had initially planned on writing no more than a single paragraph to explain my feelings about this subject. But the writer (in-training) in me said, "Nah, Fam! We're going all out with this." and I found myself still typing. I'm glad my point got across just fine, though.

MrNhbdy1 votes

Well sir, if you happen to write any league fan fiction then I would be honored to read it. You are a great writer!

Tentacle Advisor1 votes

Thank you. I never really considered writing League fanfiction since I don't know much of the lore. But, now that you mention it, I might look into it one day.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Wonderful post.

From a fellow support main I feel you.

+1 mate, and a round of applause.

NJSP Trooper2 votes

This just happened to me in my ranked match. They kept spamming me with "?" pings on top of my character for every little thing i did. They got really toxic because after numerous times asking them to please stop spamming pings, I said that they would leave me no choice but to report them. I didnt want to report them but I had to because they just wouldnt fucking stop. Shit tilted me so hard that i went 1/9/5 on a champ and role that I'm really good at. Its very distracting and hard to focus when they do it over and over and over. Riot needs to address this issue ASAP

Melledoneus2 votes

Personally, I don't like support because I feel like I cannot contribute if my carries or my team are incompetent.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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Personally, I don't like support because I feel like I cannot contribute if my carries or my team are incompetent.

Depends a LOT on what support you're on and how you're building though.

Mecha Jax1 votes

What support provides the feeling Melledoneus is looking for then? The only supports I can think of that directly contribute if a team is incompetent (damage wise) is annie or zyra (off the top of my head)

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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What support provides the feeling Melledoneus is looking for then? The only supports I can think of that directly contribute if a team is incompetent (damage wise) is annie or zyra (off the top of my head)

You're playing with terrible supports then. There's dozens of them that should directly contribute in damage and in most games should allow you either sustain or utility that amplifies your game.

Writing off the dozens of sups that can do damage for no other reason than their not putting up zyra or annie damage is just wrong lol.

Mecha Jax1 votes

I feel like you misunderstood me. Melledoneus was saying he felt like he can't contribute as a support with an incompetent team. You then stated it depends on the support and build (without really stating possible ones) I then asked which supports you were referring to while offering 2 supports I think could cover for an incompetent team damage wise (hence the caster supports listed maybe morgana too) and now you are saying again there are tons of options without explaining who and how.

I am not saying supports do no damage in anyway what I am saying though is these supports provide more damage than average due to their caster nature and support build style which can cover for an incompetent team by adding in your own damage.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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I feel like you misunderstood me. Melledoneus was saying he felt like he can't contribute as a support with an incompetent team. You then stated it depends on the support and build (without really stating possible ones) I then asked which supports you were referring to while offering 2 supports I think could cover for an incompetent team damage wise (hence the caster supports listed maybe morgana too) and now you are saying again there are tons of options without explaining who and how.

I am not saying supports do no damage in anyway what I am saying though is these supports provide more damage than average due to their caster nature and support build style which can cover for an incompetent team by adding in your own damage.

He said the only supports that directly contribute to their teams damage are Annie and Zyra... that's complete bullshit. That's all I was saying. Hell, I've seen Sona's do insane damage when played well.

Mecha Jax1 votes

Yes I did say that because they supply the most damage and are the easiest to supply damage since their kits are completely centered on damage and some cc unlike sona who has heals and movement speed buffs on top of damage. I once again have never said that they are the only supports that do damage I just said they do it the MOST

Desolas Arterius2 votes

I definitely agree with you don't worry, but as a support main that attitude doesn't bother me at all. I learned how to deal with those players and still help the team without them hampering my will to play support.

It's mostly just learning how to carry as a support and how to help your team that wants to cooperate to do their best. If you have 1 person on your team acting up with their God Mentality, then learn to support the other players who aren't being a jerk :P

Granted, it doesn't work all the time, but it does help you mentally and helps your team respect you as a support when you learn to prioritize teammates and realize you aren't shackled to your ADC all game.

Also, I like to play supports that either provide a lot of utility to the team, or can carry on their own via damage. I don't like letting 1 person hinder me or ruin my will to play support.

And if supporting get's too tough, people can always try to jungle :P I feel jungling is like a global support with better carrying options. So the two work pretty well together.

Just my thoughts~ But I definitely agree with what you said.

MrNhbdy2 votes

The flame issue isn't about just supports though, these toxic players am at aim at any one not up to their expectations.

SupportMainLove tho!

Desolas Arterius2 votes

Oh for sure haha. Flame is pointed anywhere when it comes to toxic players haha. Hence why people blame lag when they're playing poorly as a last ditch effort lol :P

But I was mostly just pointing out the issue of flame supports get when paired with a toxic ADC. There are plenty of ways to get around it while still carrying as a support. If anything, playing a support that can carry is fun because the enemy team doesn't expect it either.

I just don't want people to fall victim and think they can't win when they're stuck with an asshole. There is always a way to win~

MrNhbdy2 votes

Preach brotha, Preach!

Im going to send you a request later dude, your awesome!

Desolas Arterius2 votes

Haha thanks dude! I haven't been playing league much lately, but I'll be sure to accept it when I get a chance :)

Been mostly playing WoW, OW, and Hots since I got back from Blizzcon.

Riding that Blizz hype train~

Maximum Morde6 votes

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

Melledoneus6 votes

To climb Bronze is my real test, to hit Gold is my cause.

Hello I am Bird5 votes

I will travel across the lands, feeding far and wide

Maximum Morde5 votes

Yell for others to drop some wards, so I can get some sight

BlackHairedGirl2 votes

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Yell for others to drop some wards, so I can get some sight

MINE IS ON COOLDOWN!

GOTTA PING IT THENNNN WOW ITS TRUEEEE BUT WARD YOU IDIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

BUT I CAN'T!

badabadabadadbadbabdabdbdbadbb

The Space Cowboy3 votes

I just won a 4v5 yesterday where our jungler dc'd. We stayed positive (i was Lux lol) and made shit happen. At the end of the game the enemy jungle wanted to friend request me, but then proceeded to shit on each of his teammates. I thought it was a perfect example of how attitude can displace a missing player. Positivity is OP.

LXII3 votes

The other team just sucked, badly.

When a team is missing a member you can very easily just split push them to death and there's not a thing they can do about it. Positive or not.

The Space Cowboy4 votes

I'm Bronze so I'd have to say we all sucked. I'm sure these comebacks couldn't happen in Diamond. They did control the map though, I just warded our Red/Blue and caught Shaco when he came into our turf, ulted the dragon for a steal, got good support from Shen when things got hairy, and Jinx was on the ball with the turret take downs. I suppose in higher elo this would be like a $10k stall & comeback. Mindset does effect the game, teamwork is OP.

LXII3 votes

My absolute favorite is the first example.

Seriously pisses me off so much when I say something that isn't even remotely rude and get met with "stfu" as a reply.

Fairyfleur2 votes

It happens a lot. For example, I was just suggesting for the veigar on my team to buy a certain item, while being completely passive. However my adc immediately replies with something like "stfu, you're calling him out". So apparently trying to help out the team is trying to humiliate them? =<

KANSAS CITY STAR2 votes

To everyone who's commented as well, you're focusing on the negative side of things just like everyone else does. The positive side is that where there's a problem there's a solution as long as you can control who you play with. Having played League for 7+ years now, I know the community has gotten less and less enjoyable to play with, but I also know for every 4th or 5th game that makes your hair fall out there's also one that you get the best experience's from which we play LoL for. It's like shooting up heroin, you want that beautiful moment you experienced the very first time you did it so you keep coming back expecting different results than the last 4 times you did it and maybe this'll be the time you get high again. Close to the definition of insanity. Anyway, hold close to the people you enjoyed playing with, add them and find out what they enjoy playing and be willing to try new play styles. Every time you enjoyed playing with someone in solo queue or ARAM whatever it is, see if they want to queue again and soon enough you'll have enough friends to queue up with that the possibility of a troll being in your game is reduced greatly.

P.S. Don't run your new friends away with your acquired taste for trolls, you are what you eat.

MrNhbdy1 votes

I completely get the 1/5 is bound to be a good game concept and its not that we are saying "woe is me" while asking someone to smack us with a shovel. If you have no friends on at the time, are (for the most part) a loner, or new then we should not have to deal with your "issues" while we are doing our best to play.

I however do fall into insanity of sorts, playing with complete randomds is entertaining and knowing you defeated your opponent with people you may have never played with before is very satisfying. However this makes the people who flame just as insane as me though, we both went in on a chance.

Since its equally insane then, I still believe some "team like" conduct should be there! Right?

KANSAS CITY STAR1 votes

I rant often enough and actually give ways to solve the issue and never get any real feedback or promises to the future. Just curious how empty complaints are making anything better.

MrNhbdy2 votes

Well they may seem empty but our words are not just text. I personally hope everything written here has shed light for someone, maybe got a toxic player to think "hmm?", helped a tilted support or another role feel a tad better or something else. Life is about your perception of a situation, I perceive this as discussion on what is wrong and where the true source of our turmoil is coming from. Since this is a rational discussion and intelligent, I don't expect the masses to swarm and agree, but on the very slim chance that our words are helpful in any way then it has been time well spent.

KANSAS CITY STAR1 votes

Very well put.

MrNhbdy1 votes

Thank you, having these conversions is both fun and awesome!

BlackHairedGirl1 votes

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To everyone who's commented as well, you're focusing on the negative side of things just like everyone else does. The positive side is that where there's a problem there's a solution as long as you can control who you play with. Having played League for 7+ years now, I know the community has gotten less and less enjoyable to play with, but I also know for every 4th or 5th game that makes your hair fall out there's also one that you get the best experience's from which we play LoL for. It's like shooting up heroin, you want that beautiful moment you experienced the very first time you did it so you keep coming back expecting different results than the last 4 times you did it and maybe this'll be the time you get high again. Close to the definition of insanity. Anyway, hold close to the people you enjoyed playing with, add them and find out what they enjoy playing and be willing to try new play styles. Every time you enjoyed playing with someone in solo queue or ARAM whatever it is, see if they want to queue again and soon enough you'll have enough friends to queue up with that the possibility of a troll being in your game is reduced greatly.

P.S. Don't run your new friends away with your acquired taste for trolls, you are what you eat.

Stay positive! Lux

Pæan2 votes

I made an account to play with little brother who is learning, we got around level 7 and started playing some pvp and in champ select alone had 3 ragers wanting a role. Then everybody argued and said "I'm a smurf I'll carry you trash". Bronze level or worse smurfs bashing brand new players.

All of my wut

GraceNovamon2 votes

I definitely agree.

The last 3-4 days, especially in Ranked Flex, people have been so toxic, that seriously it's my first time seeing people so on edge and cursing so much. It's EVEN worse than the end of the season. I have been playing so many years and i never encountered SO MANY toxic people in such a small period of time. Example: https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/15151469_10154693616003180_1159726609_n.jpg?oh=5581f31d9df7d6366baa6593b83e6ab0&oe=58356ADC

This has been LITERALLY every game these past days. Everyone is flaming, everyone is blaming and when you offer some advice nicely, you end up being told that you are so toxic, it's so absurd.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Shenpai notices the strife in Bronze!

Melledoneus3 votes

I've ulted into my fair share of flash-burning spaghetti-brains who then are like "wtf Shen get out of my lane."

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

....

O_o

Oh wow. I think your story just gave me a headache. Ow.

I mean... Why? How? I thought I was clueless on this game sometimes but... That is unbelievable...

Melledoneus1 votes

I kid you not I had a lux who flashed away from an attacking Blitzcrank to save herself after I shielded her from the Blitzrank combo and subdued him. Then she was like, "Whoops I flashed I thought he had ult." And I'm just here like, "You did not see the shield, or the ult, or how I basically helped you tank Blitz ult?" She honestly didn't know I ulted until I told her.

The best part? This Lux was plat. And a Lux main.

Votable Jester1 votes

TBH I've done something similar to that before because I just didn't notice the Shen ult in the confusion and was worried about other enemies coming from the fog of war.

I hope I wasn't that Lux you played with, though I doubt it since I'm not a Lux main and have never gone above plat 4.

LEEROY KLEDKINS1 votes

That 2nd chat was hat a bronze match?

No one in silver and above blames their allies that much for successful camping.

Praelis1 votes

I just experienced flaming and griefing a couple of hours ago in normal draft and it was the worst I have experienced thus far. I was support and my adc started flaming at me because I was helping to push lane. Later on he was like, "stupid support pushing w/o wards and taking mobs". I only accidentally killed a minion or two once and I was warding. In fact, I was the only one warding at bot!! So entire game him and his teammate were insulting me and even sexually harassed me by asking a lot of personal questions. In addition, they acted like ranking was what determined if you were good with league or not, and kept calling me a bronze. I reported them but I still feel salty and not sure if I can even enjoy league anymore as support. This situation occurred all the way from the beginning of the game where he apparently asked me to go top instead. But I didn't notice his comment because I was focused on helping him survive and stunning opponents. I played another game as support but it wasn't the same and I kept feeling like my adc was upset over the strategies I made even when they notified me otherwise sometimes during the game.

Novergsen1 votes

In the beginning of your game, if you write in all chat Good Luck Have Fun and No Rage Please! :D everyone will throw shits to each others in all chat for no good reasons. Is it trolling? Yes it is, and it comes to be something very serious at the end for the only reasons that at some points, the sensitive players gets touchy and start to throw trash words to the trolls. And here everything start to be bad, everyone's is flaming because I wrote something very positive in the beginning. Is their a way to avoid this? No, not when Riot is in charge, they just don't know how to contrôle that so they let a system taking care of the behaviors activities which is insanely bad for this kind of game. You can clearly see the results in most of your games and I'm dead serious.

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