Overkill tryharding in Normals

ExpStealer·Jun 10, 2018·21 votes·9,615 views

If there even exists such a term. I played a match with a Master Yi in which we had a newbie Vel'Koz. Sure, he went top instead of mid at first, then fed, had wrong runes and Ghost and Heal for summoner spells. It was obvious Vel'Koz was still learning. But Yi, with all his toxicity, said "Report Vel'Koz for trolling and feeding". I said "He's a newbie, he needs to learn", to which Yi's response was:

"And?"

Like seriously? How salty can you be? Or did you forget you were the same when you started playing LoL? Wake up, you're not in the LCS and whether you gonna win or not doesn't matter at all. Why in the three hells would you report a newbie? Words just can't begin to describe my shock and disbelief.

[sg-janna]

Edit: Just to clarify - it was blind pick, not draft. Edit 2: Both Master Yi and Vel'Koz were on my team. Edit 3: The match in question is here. Pyke (42BG) was my premade and support.

24 Comments

mabduJun 10, 20186 votes

don't blame yi. this game is way too competitive because riot wants you to "play to win". no one wants to be the loser. so sadly you can't even try champs in normals.

AneirinJun 10, 20186 votes

You can play to win while trying new champs in normals. Just mute people if they have a problem with it.

TheCodeisCupCakeJun 11, 20187 votes

Aha, Can you mute their CS stealing and inting. I think not. But i wish riot would make a button that would mute pings and chat and emotes all at once. Saves me the 12 button clicks at the start of the game

Teemo GrompJun 11, 20181 votes

the command is /fullmute all There you go.

mabduJun 11, 20182 votes

thing is if you play a new champ/role you'll likely lose lane or die a lot, even if you're playing to win it would seem like you're a burden on your team and it tilts certain teammates. this extreme competitiveness is harming the game and making players turn toxic sadly. your experience progress, LP, honor level, rewards and so on increase when you win games, so losing games makes players tilt.

Jerry SeinfeIdJun 11, 20183 votes

no.... a few select champs will lead to you feeding. Most champs are quit accesible, even if they might have higher skill caps. The only champ i ever really fed on the first games was singed, then i discovered lane singed and here i am with singed being my 2nd favourite champ.

And it's not even people not being able to play the champ well that's the biggest problem, it's the damned basics of the game. I've seen plenty of people who i could say with certainty, they know their champ, they know how to play it but they still tilt the shit out of me because instead of backing off they'll die to jungler who just passed 4 wards and has been visible on my screen for the last 5 seconds.

Velkoz's case is different as he's new to the game in general.

discussing the term tryhard is useless, idk why you wouldn't play to win.

Praetor NotoriasJun 11, 20181 votes

There's a ranked que for that though.

Troll for TrumpJun 11, 20181 votes

Can't "mute" away people being bad

wildfox99Jun 11, 20183 votes

Or did you forget you were the same when you started playing LoL?

i'll never forget my tank Graves games [slayer-jinx-catface]

SanKakUJun 10, 20182 votes

If that was blind pick, I think it's fine that he went top accidentally when no one else wanted to go middle. If it was draft though, then Yi has every right to be upset with Vel'koz assuming everyone else was going to do their team slot.

I would suggest you don't play Blind Pick. It's chaotic and irritating.

FreeKittensJun 11, 20181 votes

so you are complaining that the enemy beat your team?

Warlord RhinarkJun 11, 20187 votes

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so you are complaining that the enemy beat your team?

That wasn't the point of the post at all?

FreeKittensJun 11, 20181 votes

no i think that is the point. Yi on the other team was easily able to beat this guys team to the point he knew vel koz gave up. The OP by title is crying about people trying in normals. Sorry Yi tried and your velkoz kept feeding. Don't blame the person that did well.

StriginaJun 11, 20184 votes

If I understand it correctly, Yi was on his team as well as Vel'koz. The point is Master Yi couldn't deal with the fact Vel was new to the game so he made lot of mistakes and wanted to punish that player instead of helping him to learn the game.

Pierce The VealJun 11, 20183 votes

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If I understand it correctly, Yi was on his team as well as Vel'koz. The point is Master Yi couldn't deal with the fact Vel was new to the game so he made lot of mistakes and wanted to punish that player instead of helping him to learn the game.

Reading comprehension is a rare skill in this day and age, don’t feed the troll.

ExpStealerJun 11, 20182 votes

Both Yi and Vel'Koz were on my team :) [slayer-jinx-wink]

P.S.: Whether Yi was on our team or not is also kinda irrelevant because the post clearly states that I complain about Yi's attitude, not whether or not we were beaten by the other team.

GØÐSLAYERJun 11, 20181 votes

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so you are complaining that the enemy beat your team?

Such a positive contribution. Love your evidence and your riveting argument. Good work!

Total EclipseJun 11, 20181 votes

This happens to my gf when she plays... :/

Teemo GrompJun 11, 20181 votes

Yi is right a bit. Why? The last like 5 of the scenarios you describe are me wondering why the premades never go on a lane, and never seem to teach each other. A guy in his Level 40s brings in his noob friend and then let that friend lose us the game. They are not on a lane, I do not see the noob friend - a jungler - ganking his friends lane to get some sort of advice of DOs and DON'Ts via voice chat, he has 0 vision score and after noting that, he still does not place wards the whole game. Nothing. Literally retarded noob beginner trolls. I am so very sick of that shit it's unbelievable. Being new and a total spazz are to different things. I can't remember in the past couple of weeks when a feeder "beginner" was any sort of "Humble", and asked and accepted advice. It's just trash and literally the "you lose" card, because the noobs premade friend can't nearly compensate for the friends suckage.

I should really collect screenshots to confront people like OP with the vast majority of toxic beginners and then he might understand where Yi is coming from.

It's just dead weight. And then? The low level guy is "Repport far toxicity" (being 0/11/2 like that Nocturne last week) and the friend is "STFU you toxic **** she is new". It was a guy playing with her girlfriend, both toxic as hell, and literally just spazzing out. Fuck these "new players" in my game when we are all Level 50+ and suddenly this retarded "matchmaking" gets me some feedertard and his friend in the game. That massively tilts you.

EDIT: I played bot games for ages to avoid that. It's just courtesy imo. Also, where is Vel Koz' friend? To teach him about his outdated beginner/starter summoner skills? Or the wrong keystones/runes? The game even puts you a tooltip that you can (and have to) freely change them. What more can we or the game do when the noob player does not react to a huge ass speech bubble and a flashing button in the champ select?

I feel like you were the newbies friend. It's always like that.

ExpStealerJun 12, 20181 votes

My premade was my Pyke support. And he's level 15 or something, but its his 10th account probably, so he knows what he's doing.

That newbie was alone and completely new to the game, he got into mine because of my premade, who's a low level, as I said already. The irony is everyone on my team, save for the two of us, fed hard. I had 3/5 of my team's kills and the most damage, Pyke was second. The Yi in question ended 1/6/1; Garen was 0/4/0 and Vel'Koz... Well, he was 0/9/0. We lost, so what? Since it's not ranked why should I care? Even if Yi did well there is no excuse for his toxicity, no matter how tilted he got. Even less so when that toxicity is directed towards a completely new player.

I have no idea what kind of toxic newbies you've encountered, but Vel'Koz said nothing the whole game. NOTHING. He just tried to chill and learn.

Kurt HyzanJun 11, 20181 votes

Can't seem to find this in your match history... Can you link it ? Need to check something

ExpStealerJun 12, 20181 votes

It was played on my EUW account.

Duke DryfockerJun 11, 20181 votes

I have never played a ranked game in 8 seasons. I am the ultimate definition of casual. I am still TERRIBLE! But I enjoy the game as a super casual player. I always tell flamers, "Look, if you got matched with me, my MMR is in the bottom 1%, literally. If you are playing with or against me, that means that you are only by margin of error +5% in that measurement. Which means, that either everyone here sucks just the same, or you're on a smurf, in which case I have no sympathy for you." Enough said. Stop taking yourself so seriously and/or overestimating your skills. You're not good, and you will never make one penny playing video games. Just stop. Relegate yourself to having fun with the game, the way games were originally intended.