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Ideas to improve behavior

y0r1ck··3 votes·2,665 views

The second post with this title. Featuring new and improved ideas. The purpose is to provide a platform to discuss ideas to while stockpiling them so we can pick the best to improve behavior.

Right now, their honor system is designed to maximize how addictive league is. It rewards at unexpected times and progress is hidden behind a scale that we can't measure. Unethical and ineffective. Should be fixed.

Honor leaderboards. It's like ranked but for honor. Each category has a different leaderboard. The leader is the person with the most honors per game, not total honors. You only show up on the leaderboard after reaching level 30. Along with this, riot shows everyone their honors per game stat for each category. Passing VISIBLE amounts of honor per game means you earn rewards like we do now when we get key fragments. Completely do away with honor levels. Now your honor is measured by your honors per game and separated by category, so you can see exactly what's good and what you could improve.

Thoughts? Post your own ideas as well if you have any.

Previous ideas: Inventive honorable chat by expanding a player's freedoms in chat. First, limit chat for everyone to a reasonable number. Every honor you get increases the number of messages you can send by one. If a person abuses chat, drop their message limit to the minimum and chat ban if they continue to abuse chat.

10 Comments

LuluTopSionMid2 votes

I agree with the incentivising the chat system. A reward, not a privilege. Everyone starts with limited chat from the beginning and in obtaining enough honor from both ally and enemy you are able to receive increased chat privileges.

Include a 2-tier honor system. One where you can say who deserves the honor for their playing skill and who deserves an honor for their chatting.

Shukr4n2 votes

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I agree with the incentivising the chat system. A reward, not a privilege. Everyone starts with limited chat from the beginning and in obtaining enough honor from both ally and enemy you are able to receive increased chat privileges.

Include a 2-tier honor system. One where you can say who deserves the honor for their playing skill and who deserves an honor for their chatting.

what if game give the priviledge of using entirely the chat and it s up to you to keep the priviledge? oh...it s the current IFS..

y0r1ck2 votes

A two tier honor system is interesting. Expand on it so I understand it enough to add it to the post.

LuluTopSionMid1 votes

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A two tier honor system is interesting. Expand on it so I understand it enough to add it to the post.

Well when you go to the honor player screen theres the options Teamwork, play maker, tilt proof, and friendly, or something like that

There could be a second row that could ask something like "constructive conversation" "funny individual" "nice to chat with" or some things that sound more official that you can honor them on to rate them on their ability to chat. It would be just like the current honor system where you could only select one person as the person you thought most deserved an honor the most on the team. You could honor one person as you thought was the most honor worthy playstyle and honor another person you thought was best in chat.

OmManiPadmeHum1 votes

This. I posted this earlier today. basically a way to honor opponents with possible in-game rewards for Enemy honors.

y0r1ck2 votes

I saw your post and I'll try to include your idea as well.

OmManiPadmeHum1 votes

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I saw your post and I'll try to include your idea as well.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Umbral Regent1 votes

I find it a little ironic that you remark that the current Honor System is an unethical, gamified system...And then propose a leaderboard to gamify it even further.

An "Honor Leaderboard" would be a pretty bad idea for the same reason there's no such thing as an award for humility. Sportsmanship and humility aren't competitions to be won. They're behaviors and personal natures. You shouldn't be out to be "the single most honorable player in NA" - that whole idea on its own is ridiculous, but the side effects would generally be worse.

'Cause one of the easiest foreseeable outcomes of an "Honor Leaderboard" would be people begging for honors without trying to prove themselves deserving.

y0r1ck1 votes

The leaderboard is there to reward the most honorable and to provide the average player with something to strive for. Why is it ridiculous if someone wants to be the most honorable player in NA? That's an honorable goal. Yes go ahead and groan.

Puns aside, I don't see what's wrong with trying to be the most honorable you can be. The leaderboard isn't a reward or competition, it's so everyone can see that there are people who get many honors every game. So that when the average player sees that the community holds honorable people in high regard, he'll try to be more honorable.

But, I can see why a leaderboard promotes competition. So while I still think it's miles ahead of what is in place already, I'm open to suggestions on how to show players that others are getting multiple honors every game. OmManiPadmeHum made an interesting suggestion in the post he linked. Instead of a leader board, riot could create publicly visible rewards that reset and change over time to repeatedly provide good behavior rewards. This is a lot like the honor borders riot has today, the only difference is that the reward would be different for each season and it'll be clear why someone has the reward.

I called the current system addictive because of its rewards system. With my idea the old reward system is thrown out, and less addictive rewards are introduced. "Further" implies we're keeping the old system, and I'm not in favor of that. So I don't see how a leaderboard "further gamifies" anything.

JusticeReigns1 votes

There is no fairness and justice anymore. If you speak out, you will be burned, permanently.

Good players who dont troll get permabanned for trying to get their bans appealed.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/fyhhg7iE-looks-like-they-permabanned-me-because-i-couldnt-give-them-the-exact-date-the-account-was-made-on

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