Should a player condoning trolling be reportable?

Funkin Dunkin·Jul 26, 2017·4 votes·456 views

We just had a game where our jungler picked Ashe, then AFKed in fountain for the majority of the game. And the enemy team said they weren't going to report because it was quote "normals". To me that does not justify that behavior. Normals, ARAM, Ranked, trolling she be punished regardless and when you openly support the troll I feel as though you should be equally as punishable. LOL already has a huge problem with trolls and this only amplifies it when you go "meh, it got me a win so who cares".

20 Comments

ChermorgJul 26, 20173 votes

The enemy doesn't have to report. One report is the same as more than one, it all flags the game to be reviewed.

As long as you report at the end of the game, it'll be reviewed.

Funkin DunkinJul 26, 20171 votes

Doesn't multiple reports carry more merit than just 1 though?

ChermorgJul 26, 20172 votes

Nope. One report is all that is needed. Multiple are essentially thrown out.

scazzmanJul 26, 20172 votes

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Doesn't multiple reports carry more merit than just 1 though?

Riot claims they don't, but they've lied about their player behavior systems before

zPOOPzJul 26, 20172 votes

Why should it be equally punishable? Reporting is a personal statement. When you report someone, you are telling Rito that you don't think what this person is doing or saying is adhering to the spirit of the Summoner's Code. That is your opinion, if Rito agrees with your opinion, that person will be punished (if they don't, your report/opinion/statement will be thrown away). Just because someone (the enemy team) doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't mean they should be "equally punishable". If they don't find that behavior unacceptable, then you wish the afk on their team next time and move on. Reporting someone is not compulsory or should it be. It is a volunteer action.

This is inline with the idea that toxicity is subjective. Some people may find a certain action is toxic, while some may not. Why do you even suggest people who do not find certain action to be toxic should be punished? They will change their tunes soon enough when the person doing that action is on their team no doubt. But in court, if 12 people vote a certain person to be "not guilty" even though all the evidences are against him, do you feel those 12 people should be "equally punished" as well???

Of all the ridiculous whiny threads on this board, I find this the ridiculous-est. (yeah yeah most ridiculous)

Funkin DunkinJul 26, 20172 votes

People like you are the reason why trolls exist. You find something to ridicule and you do. When it is simply a yes or no question subjugated to the people, you come back with: this is stupid. People like you, who have the mindset that everything is dumb unless its your opinion, are the reason LOL is in such a bad state of infantile and childish behavior. Toxicity, including the kind that you have just brought with your last statement, should all be punished. I don't mean whining and bitching, I mean the intentional means to cause a negative impact to a surrounding. Someone asks about an idea that has no right or wrong answer, but wants the input of the community, and you go out of your way to chastise someone for it. THAT is the very definition of toxicity. Had you left that out, you would have had a well thought, put together response. But, because you decided to prostitute yourself as a bigot, your opinion no longer has any merit. Your lack of intuitive discussion and compulsory behavior to belittle is exactly what needs to be quelled from this community.

zPOOPzJul 26, 20172 votes

And people like you are the reason freedom are slowly being taken away from people....

Reporting is a CHOICE. When someone CHOOSE to not make that CHOICE, you don't seek to punish that person. Whether you find someone not thinking something is toxic is your OPINION. YOU do not get punished for your OPINION.

Funkin DunkinJul 26, 20171 votes

Toxicity isn't a right. There's no removing one's freedom from something that openly violates policy. The only reason you're taking such offense to this is because you, yourself, are a troll.

zPOOPzJul 26, 20172 votes

No, we are not discussing the afk. We both in agreement that the afk should be punished, banned, (and possibly hang).

The reason I am offended because the main point of your thread is the idea that if the enemy team do not share your opinion that the afk should be reported, then they should be equally punishable. That takes away any kind of choice someone has on whether to use the report sysyem or not. I am offended you are suggesting either someone report this person the majority think is toxic or risk being punished

All the enemy team had is your word.....

Funkin DunkinJul 26, 20171 votes

That's 100% bull shit and you know it. If everyone is lvl 14 and our AFK is lvl 6 in the fountain, there's no such thing as opinion. I'm done with you.

QuackasJul 26, 20172 votes

Asking for reports is a reportable offense though? As it only takes 1 report to flag a game for the system to check it; it doesn't matter if it is 9 reports or 1.

Subject 5Jul 26, 20171 votes

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No, we are not discussing the afk. We both in agreement that the afk should be punished, banned, (and possibly hang).

The reason I am offended because the main point of your thread is the idea that if the enemy team do not share your opinion that the afk should be reported, then they should be equally punishable. That takes away any kind of choice someone has on whether to use the report sysyem or not. I am offended you are suggesting either someone report this person the majority think is toxic or risk being punished

All the enemy team had is your word.....

That AFK Ashe Jungle wasted a game for 9 other people. If somebody disagrees - they are condoning that behavior.

https://puu.sh/wTJOk/26e18f2b0a.png

zPOOPzJul 26, 20172 votes

disagreeing is not "condoning". Disagreeing is exercise a free of choice to care, not care, or NEUTRAL

unless the enemy is encouraging the afk, then that's condoning.

Refusing to report is NOT "condoning"

Subject 5Jul 26, 20171 votes

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disagreeing is not "condoning". Disagreeing is exercise a free of choice to care, not care, or NEUTRAL

unless the enemy is encouraging the afk, then that's condoning.

Refusing to report is NOT "condoning"

https://puu.sh/wTJOk/26e18f2b0a.png

^ Read the definition once more and then read my response below:

accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.

especially with reluctance.

It doesn't matter if disagreement is in the air - if somebody was murdered plain simple, and you didn't report the act - you'd be suspicious of condoning the act. Both are crime scenes from scale 1 of a video game to a scale 10 of a murder in real life.

Mizuki ZahraJul 26, 20172 votes

but it only takes 1 report to flag an account so why ask enemies to report? just report it urself post game

TheDonarJul 26, 20171 votes

This concept is trawling some pretty murky waters for me.

First, the AFK idiot should be reported and punished. I think we all agree on that.

I do think, however, that punishing others for not reporting is probably a bit too far in most instances. If someone simply says "meh, I don't care" I don't think they should be punished for not wanting to spend time on a report. Also if it is the enemy, they are probably pretty jazzed that they played 5 v 4 the whole game. It isn't super sportsmanlike, but they didn't cause it.

I MIGHT be on board for small punishments for people who actively encourage the behavior though (e.g., typing 'yeah keep doing it' in chat or giving suggestions on how to be a bigger dick). A couple hour freeze on them might make them not actively help a troll in the future.

Funkin DunkinJul 26, 20171 votes

NOW we're getting somewhere. People who actively encourage trolling should also be punished. Making it so that a person who exhibits a certain kind of behavior and exacerbating that behavior should definitely be punished, albeit not as severely.

TrulyBlandJul 26, 20171 votes

Welll, first off: "who cares" isn't exactly condoning. [Edit: Upon reading somebody's official definition in another post, I stand corrected. Apparently condoning also includes tolerating. In that case change my original point to: Passively condoning is a dick move, but I wouldn't say it's punishable.]

But if they are actively encouraging it? Sure. I'd say that's unsportsmanlike behaviour for sure.

AdeBugJul 26, 20171 votes

first off don't ask for reports, because one (yours) is enough, and even that is not necessarily necessary, as if they are afk for a longer period, leaver buster will get them.