Here's the problem with not just LoL's but every game's report system

XinZhao2WinNhao··1 votes·1,061 views

Every game's report system ends up being used as a tool for retaliation and as a threat because there isn't a way currently in most games where they actually tell the player making the false reports that they need to cut it out and that there will be consequences.

This is the same in CSGO, Dota, Cod, etc.

Sure, league takes away report weight if you make a lot of false reports, but I highly doubt that they know that they're making false reports and that their report weight is being lowered. So they keep using the reports as a threat, and that brings even more toxicity to the game.

They don't know their reports don't matter, so they'll keep on with their toxic witch hunts saying "report Master Yi feed pls" in all chat and just starting those report bargains like "you report Yi and I'll report Akali" rather than legit reporting.

INSTEAD OF PARROTING, CAN YOU READ? I AM NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE DOING NOTHING TO VERIFY REPORTS. I'M SAYING THAT PEOPLE WHO FALSE REPORT SEE THE REPORT SYSTEM AS A WAY THEY CAN BLAME PEOPLE, THEY DON'T CARE IF THEIR REPORTS DO ANYTHING. THEY JUST WANNA BLAME SOMEONE, AND THAT'S TOXIC IN AND OF ITSELF.

This is what I said and this is what I mean "You know that most people who false report, report not because they believe it will do anything but it makes them feel good to blame someone else for a loss? The system itself is just enabling these people, they don't care if their reports do anything. They just want to blame someone, and the system allows them to blame someone and feel good about it by not punishing the false reporters. That's bringing forth toxicity."

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o Maui o3 votes

Reports are verified before punishments are handed down. Add, funnily enough, using the report function to threaten or bully other players is a bannable offense.

FrankerX1 votes

"there is no way to prove false reports" if that would be true noone would play lol BECAUSE EVERYONE WOULD BE FALSELY BANNED!!!

also asking for reports or announcing to report is against the rules of lol because its toxic. so they end up banned one day.

hope i burned your thread :D

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

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"there is no way to prove false reports" if that would be true noone would play lol BECAUSE EVERYONE WOULD BE FALSELY BANNED!!!

"Sure, league takes away report weight if you make a lot of false reports, but I highly doubt that they know that they're making false reports and that their report weight is being lowered. So they keep using the reports as a threat, and that brings even more toxicity to the game." This is what I said.

I mean that there should be a way to punish people who troll report, not just lower their credibility.

If you prank call the cops, you get in trouble. They don't just say "oh its' the 10th prank call about a fake robbery by (this person) let's just ignore it" which is what Riot's system does. They say "oh it's the 10th prank call by (this person), let's call him in and give him a warning, the next time he does this he gets a ticket or maybe even jail time."

If you troll report, you should get in trouble too.

also asking for reports or announcing to report is against the rules of lol because its toxic. so they end up banned one day.

hope i burned your thread :D

It still happens everyday. Different people everyday too. Because the system itself tends to bring on hostility between teammates and blame, a report system like this that's unchecked (besides just lowering your report credibility there's no punishment) it just brings animosity between teammates and brings a reason for people to blame others.

If there was a law that says "X is illegal" but makes it easier to get access to X, it's a bad law.

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Reports are verified before punishments are handed down. Add, funnily enough, using the report function to threaten or bully other players is a bannable offense.

I know they're doing something about making sure people aren't falsely banned but I really hope that there is an actual punishment for troll reporting.

You can actually get in trouble for prank calling the cops, or framing someone for a crime they didn't commit. Especially if you're a frequent prank caller, the cops don't just look at the prank call, say "oh thats a prank call" and ignore it, as well as the 10 more times you prank call them. They will actually call you in, issue a warning, then a ticket, then if you continue maybe even jail time. and you actually get in trouble for it.

Why is it not the same in LoL? False reporting is basically framing someone for a crime they didn't commit.

Cookiepear1 votes

I can see your point, but I think that these "troll" bans are because they don't really understand the gravity of a ban. It taints your account record, gives you a bad rep (however minor it is), and just overall ruins people's experience.

        This is a tricky net to cast, because RIOT wants to catch nasty people, but sometimes an innocent fox gets caught in a bear trap...

                                       ~Perry ![Gnar](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Gnar.png)
Astôlfo1 votes

Or, it's easy to prove false reports by just scanning through the chatlogs and using some sort of AI they have that checks for context and similar (which they do have, but don't release the specifics of for obvious reasons).

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

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Or, it's easy to prove false reports by just scanning through the chatlogs and using some sort of AI they have that checks for context and similar (which they do have, but don't release the specifics of for obvious reasons).

I already admitted they have it.

But the players don't know that, and the players are using reports as a form of threats/retaliation, and since a lot of players do that, the system itself is bringing toxicity.

For example, if there was no punishment for prank calling the cops for no reason, people would prank call the cops all the time. Sure, they police could look into the case and find out that it's a prank, and then lower your credibility, but if there's no punishment for prank calling the cops it won't matter to you, you already got your prank in.

You know that most people who false report, report not because they believe it will do anything but it makes them feel good to blame someone else for a loss? The system itself is just enabling these people, they don't care if their reports do anything. They just want to blame someone, and the system allows them to blame someone and feel good about it by not punishing the false reporters. That's bringing forth toxicity.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

I'm not saying Riot isn't doing a good job preventing false bans, they are very good at that, but I just feel like if you don't punish false reporters or even warn them "you have submitted many false reports, this is not acceptable", they will believe that it's okay to keep on blaming someone else for their own losses. they don't care if the other guy gets banned, they just wanna blame people, and the system is enabling that

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