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This warrants disciplinary action?

JhomasTefferson··2 votes·1,143 views

Ok, I've made a few posts about this now and finally have the chat logs. I'll attempt to fill in what it was in response to.

Game 1 JhomasTefferson: team 5skin JhomasTefferson: ty JhomasTefferson: but im the prince JhomasTefferson: i dotn need it JhomasTefferson: ty JhomasTefferson: got f JhomasTefferson: scrub ahri JhomasTefferson: why did you come back ahri: Fuck you j4, calling me scrub im feeding now JhomasTefferson: reported JhomasTefferson: she chased azir for no reason and died JhomasTefferson: when i had the kill secured without her JhomasTefferson: there was no reason for her to be there JhomasTefferson: so she was just feeding ahri runs to lane and dies to azir on purpose immediately after respawning JhomasTefferson: she is scrub JhomasTefferson: report ahri JhomasTefferson: feeding JhomasTefferson: she even said she was in chat JhomasTefferson: so shes fucked JhomasTefferson: rito just has to read the chat logs JhomasTefferson: and theyll ban her JhomasTefferson: its k I gank top and azir counterganks and gets a double JhomasTefferson: if ahri had pinged JhomasTefferson: maybe i would have lived JhomasTefferson: but we have a scrub midlane JhomasTefferson: so it happens JhomasTefferson: still didnt ping missing ahri blames me for us losing cuz "if I didn't call her scrub she wouldn't be feeding" JhomasTefferson: and your laner has ten kills JhomasTefferson: yeah its ur fault someone asks why im so salty JhomasTefferson: cuz ahri sucks JhomasTefferson: report her JhomasTefferson: ahri JhomasTefferson: ur laner is the reason we lost JhomasTefferson: you intentionally fed JhomasTefferson: its on you JhomasTefferson: end of story someone says shut up JhomasTefferson: once ahri admits shes wrong ill stop arguing JhomasTefferson: report ahri after game JhomasTefferson: and most deaths JhomasTefferson: she fed JhomasTefferson: yeah JhomasTefferson: and because of that shes fed the most gold JhomasTefferson: she fed azir and the enemy adc have made a point of killing me most since ahri told them I called her a scrub, then after I had more deaths started calling me scrub based on my score JhomasTefferson: score doesnt matter JhomasTefferson: why stfu? JhomasTefferson: uim right JhomasTefferson: im right, she fed the most gold JhomasTefferson: gold matters JhomasTefferson: and shes fed the mosty JhomasTefferson: and she said she would feed JhomasTefferson: so she needs to be reported JhomasTefferson: i still wuldnt have fed as much they tell me im stupid, I have 1 more death and a worse kda so I have fed more, specifically saying "that's a special kind of stupid" JhomasTefferson: youre a special kind of stupid JhomasTefferson: the more kills you get the more gold ur worth JhomasTefferson: thats why i havent said shit to heim JhomasTefferson: and ahri literally said she was going to feed I call a surrender vote because we have no towers, no drags, and no wards, and a feeder JhomasTefferson: im letting them win cuz you didnt surr someone talks shit on me about my score again JhomasTefferson: score doesnt matter JhomasTefferson: she had more kills JhomasTefferson: so she was worth more gold JhomasTefferson: so her deaths are worse than mine JhomasTefferson: What is the hard part to understand there JhomasTefferson: im letting u JhomasTefferson: cuz my team didnt surrender JhomasTefferson: just let me leave thru bot lane and ill farm jg JhomasTefferson: go ahead ahri tells me im wrong and the reason we lost JhomasTefferson: ill post chat logs to forums and ull look stupid as fuck JhomasTefferson: i cant play cuz ahri fed so i cant do anything JhomasTefferson: ashe why r u in jg JhomasTefferson: you could have just gone to our base and taken nexus JhomasTefferson: i just wanna farm JhomasTefferson: whyd uhave to kill me

Rito, send me the entire chat log please, I want to be more accurate in this.

Game 2 JhomasTefferson: %%%%% we ashe and raka JhomasTefferson: were not tanking it for u JhomasTefferson: o ok JhomasTefferson: big leash to me means tank it no smite JhomasTefferson: love is elbow deep taliyah walls us into lane and me and my adc (im supp this game) die JhomasTefferson: what r we supposed to do with that JhomasTefferson: ye we ward, but she ganks again, and gets a kill on the adc (my bf) and calls us noobs and feeders JhomasTefferson: ekko ur noob JhomasTefferson: ekko is noob he tells me im bad, gets the enemy adc and supp to start berating us JhomasTefferson: i know im good JhomasTefferson: and im jg main so i know a good jg would have ganked by now JhomasTefferson: u were just pushed for 3 min ekko says he didn't gank cuz we're "feeding" even though we're 1/2/0 and 0/1/1 JhomasTefferson: cuz ur a noob JhomasTefferson: noob ekko ganky by coming thru lane JhomasTefferson: ? JhomasTefferson: no JhomasTefferson: we canty win cuz of noob jg JhomasTefferson: no drag control JhomasTefferson: we flamed when we realized hes shit jg JhomasTefferson: and flamingg ashe for having lag JhomasTefferson: wish i had a jg JhomasTefferson: who knew how to gank JhomasTefferson: fucking coming thru lane JhomasTefferson: he has river and tribush JhomasTefferson: were the better side to have a jg gank bot, and he still hasn't taliyah stays in lane with them for 5 minutes, their midlaner comes at one point, they take tower and kill us after they leave, ekko comes and starts taking our farm JhomasTefferson: ekko JhomasTefferson: gtfo azir asks why taliyah and enemy adc are so fed JhomasTefferson: thank ekko azir JhomasTefferson: report ekko JhomasTefferson: absentee jg ekko has gotten our whole team and most of the enemy team at this point to berate us for our score JhomasTefferson: do any of u guys use forums JhomasTefferson: go on there, theyll tell you a good score doesnt mean ur good JhomasTefferson: so conversely, a bad score doesnt mean ur bad JhomasTefferson: thank u blitz JhomasTefferson: for having a shit jg i think were doing pretty well JhomasTefferson: gj JhomasTefferson: Ekko shi t jg JhomasTefferson: no drag control JhomasTefferson: nahh ekko tries to surrender JhomasTefferson: were gonna keep u in this ekko JhomasTefferson: Ekko, ur the bad one JhomasTefferson: u dont know how to jg, thats why yas got fed JhomasTefferson: taliyah outganked u bot JhomasTefferson: nahh blitz, u guys got ahead cuz of taliyah JhomasTefferson: ur not better than me JhomasTefferson: nahh, im not salty JhomasTefferson: i know im good JhomasTefferson: just didnt have a good jg this game JhomasTefferson: and u guys did JhomasTefferson: so you win JhomasTefferson: ask a pro, the best way to win is to shut down enemy jg JhomasTefferson: jg is one of the most important aspects to winning
JhomasTefferson: im not trash tho JhomasTefferson: ekko let us get 3v2d bot, thats why we did poorly JhomasTefferson: ekko started it tho JhomasTefferson: so isnt it on him? JhomasTefferson: not really JhomasTefferson: ekko, you made this JhomasTefferson: game shit,
JhomasTefferson: now lie in ur bed JhomasTefferson: anhh me and adc refuse to surrender again JhomasTefferson: he deserves as much wasted time as possible berates me and ashe for score again JhomasTefferson: score doesnt mean shit ekko JhomasTefferson: gg JhomasTefferson: gg

These are the only two games they sent me. Two games? And I wasn't even that toxic. Maybe in game two I could see it, but game one I still don't see how my actions warrant such disciplinary action. Riot, please send all of the chat logs. I want an actual "community" review of the facts here.

This is abhorrent that I'm being treated this way. It's unfair that I can't even respond to personal attacks during game without being considered toxic, even if I do so without bad language. And its loathsome that the condemnation of things against the summoner's code in game is also considered "against summoner code". That's like saying rape is bad, but you shouldn't tell rapists they're bad. That's like saying thievery is bad, but when you see someone stealing something, you shouldn't yell "thief!" and attempt to stop them then call the police, you should just call the police. That's like it being illegal to ride in the passing lane, so when you're riding with someone doing it, you just call the police instead of telling them that it's illegal. It's a retarded method of thinking.

29 Comments

EvilDustMan7 votes

Okay, basically, the problem here is that instead of trying to defuse the situation, all you did is continue to antagonize Ahri and likely make things worse.

Kãtãrinã6 votes

you added your own little "notes" in it. That "context" that ytou are putting in could in fact be fraudulent due to we dont see what they type but only see your chat logs. post ONLY your full chat logs next time please. Don't like how you are tring 2 bias it. The chat is just merely "are you toxic" not "why are you toxic" so leave it "As is" cause for all i know you changed some of it around.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

It is as is. If you don't like the italicized bits ignore that part of it. And all I was sent was what I said, not what everyone else said. I'm asking riot to post everything from the game. I clearly have nothing to hide.

ShinkoMinori2 votes

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you added your own little "notes" in it. That "context" that ytou are putting in could in fact be fraudulent due to we dont see what they type but only see your chat logs. post ONLY your full chat logs next time please. Don't like how you are tring 2 bias it. The chat is just merely "are you toxic" not "why are you toxic" so leave it "As is" cause for all i know you changed some of it around.

Are you going to believe him either way? He is a toxic guy posting chatlogs either he is not posting every chat log or changed a few words to gather sympathy, either way if his chatlogs were clean everyone else would just tell him that he was more toxic in other games and he deserved it.

No one believes OP ever in this section. Try to send me to a thread in which people had faith in OP and said that he didn't deserved it in some degree.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

Comment more. Get a red's attention. Ask them if they can post all of it. You'll see im not lying.

archerno11 votes

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Comment more. Get a red's attention. Ask them if they can post all of it. You'll see im not lying.

Posts with so many downvotes rarely bring reds here.

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Kãtãrinã3 votes

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LMFAO u cry about "context" when reform cards are BY DESIGN out of context?

exactly, i dont want your "context" i want them how they are because it isnt "why are you toxic" it was "are you toxic" that is why or why not you get a ban. No one cares for the reasoning. The reasoning has 0 information to do with the ban.

JhomasTefferson2 votes

Context is everything. Its not a good idea to shoot someone, but if theyre trying to kill you, then its ok. Its not usually a good idea to 1v1 a yi, but if youre jax, it is. Context is what makes me right.

Reasoning has nothing to do with it

So you don't believe in reason? Real intelligent.

SmokedAlmonds7 votes

The context you added doesn't change anything about the situation. Your responses to and about those people in your games are not acceptable.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

What was unacceptable in game 1? I don't see the unacceptable part in that. I truly don't

I can agree that I was wrong in the game two scenario.

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

You were harassing ahri basically the entire game.

Kãtãrinã2 votes

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Context is everything. Its not a good idea to shoot someone, but if theyre trying to kill you, then its ok. Its not usually a good idea to 1v1 a yi, but if youre jax, it is. Context is what makes me right.

So you don't believe in reason? Real intelligent.

the REASON for a ban has NOTHING to do with context it is all about what you said and solely that. Riot doesn't care if they flamed you or any of that. Enemy flames you mute them. Boom problem solved. you decied to flame back and that is why you got banned. the "So you don't believe in reason? Real intelligent" made no sense. i believe in reason and all that but the bans give for verbal abuse by riot aren't based on reason. they are solely based on what you typed in that chat. Seems to be reading your thing and then reading your comments, you needed the ban. Hope it chills you out. lol.

AeroWaffle5 votes

You're responsible for your own behavior, no matter how others are acting. Most of the real world analogies don't hold up here.

You're in league to play the game, not get into argument with someone that was behaving poorly. You're not defending yourself, you're retailiating. You don't want to see this person's chat anymore? You mute them. Report them at the end of the game if you feel it's necessary.

Asking/declaring that you're going to report someone is also something that's completely unnecessary that only serves to use the system to attack someone in chat. You're not helping the situation, you're making it worse. The report system works perfectly fine without announcing it.

aj502 Oneill3 votes

Pfft....I hope you get perma'd soon with your attitude.

Firu2 votes

This isn't responding to personal attacks. This is instigating and taunting teammates. Whether or not they are acting toxic, there is never any excuse to behave in such a way yourself. Be the more mature person.

Rand0mH3r0X2 votes

I don't read copy-paste logs. Only screenshots.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

I can't screenshot the entire thing. It only shows like 10 lines at once

IronwallJackson1 votes

What you typed in chat matters, not why. Riot isn't concerned about your reasons for why your flame other players, the fact is that you made the game worse for all involved.

That is why you received disciplinary action, along with the likelihood that you have a history of being negative in chat.

No flash no life1 votes

The answer to your question from title is yes.

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That's like saying thievery is bad, but when you see someone stealing something, you shouldn't yell "thief!" and attempt to stop them then call the police, you should just call the police.

That's not what you did. The closest comparative action you've done was after the thief ran out from someone's house with their belongings, you break into that thief's house and take what was stolen back to their owner, and needless to say both you and the thief will get arrested.

Narvuntien1 votes

There is a lot of ways you can respond without being toxic you chose to be toxic.

Hey ahri calm down, If you are going to feed the moment someone criticises you, you'll get yourself banned real quick. People will insult you in basically every game you play. Note: that underhanded insult :P

Ahri try to be more careful that decision making was pretty poor there. Note: it is about that one play that was bad not about them inherently being bad, if you acknowledge that they can learn from their mistake rather than saying they are bad you will get better responses and often people will actually get better. (Like was the case in a recent ranked game we screwed up a teamfight our ADC told us exactly why, we won the next one and the one after that then the game)

Don't ask people to report in all chat just your report is enough, just don't do that.

A junglers job is hard enough without people telling them what to do. Be very specific with reasons why they should gank your lane more. remember they have a whole map they have to think about you just have to win your lane.

There is no reason to swear.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

Im a jg main. I understand the difficulties of jg. They started flaming us. I told them they are bad jg. Is telling someone they are bad flaming? and I was specific. I said you can't let the enemy jg 3v2 us in lane for 5 minutes, and at some point he should have come for a countergank. He did not. That made him a poor jungler. We were also winning lane until that happened. He as a jungler should have helped us maintain said lead. Junglers should help their ahead lanes snowball. I understand a lot of that. the ekko did not. I tried to explain it, he said my score meant that my advice wasn't valid and shouldn't be taken.

grug1 votes

you deserve what you got and probably worse. I'm not bothered that you were slamming ahri and co that hard its the fact that you asked for reports, that shit is goddamn annoying.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

let me clarify, I asked my team to report. I didn't ask for it in allchat. After she asked for them in allchat, I defended myself against her claims.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

To everyone saying that you shouldn't respond. If someone is making statements against you in public, if someone is yelling and calling you all sorts of names, accusing you of wrongdoing, getting in your face, and there's no immediate way to have them removed from the situation, or no way to get them to stop, and no authority around, do you respond, or do you just ignore them and allow them to defame you?

Nik Nikerson1 votes

The enemy mid and adc made sure to kill you the most just to make you look bad?

JhomasTefferson1 votes

Also, how is this in the 5% most negative shit on league? I regularly see much worse than this. Quit lumping all negativity together.

Saying someone is "a braindead scumfuck piece of shit who deserves to be gunned down in the street like the degenerate you are" is not as bad as saying someone is a scrub. Don't treat it like it is.

Nibbly Jimbles1 votes

If you actually read the Summoners Code, you would know that this does indeed "warrant disciplinary action."

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