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Bad Players that always hinder your team and surrender.

MunchCrunchLunch··2 votes·1,344 views

Do you often have a team mate that dies 15 times 10 minutes into the game? Does that teammate want to surrender and be even more useless? Well then welcome to the club.

I know that not everybody is good at any game. but I mean. why do people that are not bad. but extremely bad. play and feed the enemy and then not want to do anything at all. at least try

we need some sort of a system that gives players that do that some negative and get banned for a little. I mean I play in unranked mode right now but still can you have an extensive practice mode or something. i mean am really sick of this. they don't try from the beginning and they don't try and just want to surrender. I mean for real all you have to do is not go after someone stronger than you and end up feeding them. I never surrender. I think i surrendered one or twice when like its IMPOSSIBLE to win unless the enemy just stops doing anything. though I've made crazy comebacks. even though the game makes it hard to comeback and always gives advantage to whos ahead. its possible.

I mean you're just wasting our time and even the winners time as they get less IP and XP.

9 Comments

Maximum Morde3 votes

{quoted} I never surrender.

I always click yes when a vote goes up. I know I know, let the downvotes rain but here is why. These are actual people on my team, they feel just like I do. Someone calling a surrender vote is NOT having a good time playing. Voting no is literally forcing someone on the other end to have a bad time. Now, I don't know about you folks but I was raised better than that. Common courtesy dictates that their request is reasonable(I lose nothing), so there is no reason not to accommodate it. I can just go on to another match.

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YAF3lW9s,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-10-30T16:12:27.515+0000)

I always click yes when a vote goes up. I know I know, let the downvotes rain but here is why. These are actual people on my team, they feel just like I do. Someone calling a surrender vote is NOT having a good time playing. Voting no is literally forcing someone on the other end to have a bad time. Now, I don't know about you folks but I was raised better than that. Common courtesy dictates that their request is reasonable(I lose nothing), so there is no reason not to accommodate it. I can just go on to another match.

Respectfully I disagree with that logic. I understand your point, I just disagree with it. Personally unless the game is absolutely lost then I see no point in surrendering. There are some games that are really close on both sides whereby not surrendering early opens up the chance of a comeback win in that game. I think it's also important to keep in mind that there are some people out there who like to spam surrender when things aren't going their way (i.e. the enemy team got first blood, they died once or twice in a game, people aren't giving into their trolling, etc). I know those are few and far between but hopefully you see where I'm coming from on this.

I know you're trying to show common courtesy (which I can totally understand honestly)but in those cases I think that you just have to throw common courtesy out the window and not give into the surrender votes and try to do what you feel is best for the team as a whole.

Chrogo2 votes

I've played enough unwinnable games to know when a game is unwinnable...

Honestly I wish there was an option that let me report the teammates refusing to surrender a lost game. As Maximum Morde put it, those people are causing the players who want to surrender to play a bad game they aren't enjoying.

I've definitely been that guy wanting to surrender and 2 people refuse over and over. It's extremely frustrating and tilting, and guess what? We lose anyway... just 10-20 minutes later than if we just surrendered. It's honestly trolling your team to not surrender some games.

The worst is a troll duo queue who both refuse to surrender even though they played terribly all game and let the enemy get way ahead... They would rather their three teammates SUFFER and WASTE TIME than just agree to surrender.

RetroRage961 votes

I see where you are coming from, and I would like to add a new report option, something like "Lack of Effort." People that don't care are so annoying, and can really ruin a person's experience.

And your english could use some help.

Maximum Morde1 votes

{quoted}

I see where you are coming from, and I would like to add a new report option, something like "Lack of Effort." People that don't care are so annoying, and can really ruin a person's experience.

And your english could use some help.

I'd support this option as long as it was like the unskilled report and did no actual punishment. That way ragers can report and let off steam, and people who just wanna play chill can play. Everyone wins.

RetroRage961 votes

Yes, I would support that. Maybe just make them lose some MMR if they get too many?

Angel VII1 votes

"I mean I play in unranked mode right now"

As someone who sucks, where else are you supposed to get the practice to not suck? =P Bots are a joke to everyone except absolute greenhorn noobs. If you're playing with nubs, is your elo low? Are you're getting stuck with them for a reason?

I try to play with friends who know my skill level and are okay with carrying some slack. If you're really irritated with randoms, play with friends. Don't have enough for a team at any given time? Make more friends. lol

Also, you don't have to agree to a surrender just because someone starts one. Open up stronger communication with your team. Offer someone who is struggling advice in a positive and supportive way (not flaming/yelling/insulting) and make a better player out of them.

RetroRage961 votes

I don't think this advice is really helpful to OP's situation. What does it matter what his/her elo is? There are people that don't give a damn about the game at any elo, because Normals are where a lot of regular ranked players go to take a break. What if his friends don't play league? What if they aren't available when he is? "Make more friends. lol" is not advice at all, it's just putting off a real, helpful response. I don't know what kind of people agree to surrender just because someone started a vote. I think it's pretty much common sense to think for yourself, and if OP is posting about this, they probably don't vote to surrender just for shits and giggles. If someone doesn't care about the game/match, they will probably not want to communicate in the way you suggest.

Angel VII1 votes

"What if his friends don't play league? What if they aren't available when he is?"

Clarification - I was referring to in game friends. If you're not a mean person, they're not difficult to make. =) Not many of my real life friends play often if at all because the toxicity of our community has gone to an all time high. But, I'm never lacking for in game friends. At any given time there are at least 10-20 people available for me to play with. Literally, just saying "Hi, how are you guys today?" while waiting in que can make all the difference in meeting new and nice people. With over 100+ friends in game and little notes for each one to remind me of names/preferences/traits, I can always find someone to play with. When you're playing with a prearranged group, it negates his difficulties entirely.

Sorry if my previous response wasn't clear enough. Still working on my first cup of coffee and my communication skills aren't fully loaded yet. =P

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