Passive aggressive players are the worst type of toxicity

XinZhao2WinNhao·Oct 12, 2016·7 votes·2,245 views

At least with the other toxic players, you can report them and they'll probably be punished.

But passive aggressive players can't really be caught by the automated system. Here's what I mean by passive aggressive players. Passive aggressive players might be upset about something such as not getting their main role. Instead of flaming, they would purposely do things like not grouping, purposely not helping teammates, stealing jungle camps to spite a jungler who didn't gank for them, blitzcrank hook a full health assassin over to your 100 hp adc while he's trying to recall.

17 Comments

MUSHROOM MIDGETOct 12, 20163 votes

thats why this war on toxicity is so dumb. people notice they get banned for raging or blaming. so now they take out their anger in different ways that wont get them banned.

wouldnt you prefer the raging?

AstôlfoOct 12, 20164 votes

No, I'd prefer both to be banned. But banning just raging if this is harder to catch is fine too. But this can be caught as well, just not as easily.

MUSHROOM MIDGETOct 12, 20161 votes

you think things like not grouping with your team or hooking someone at the wrong time will eventually get punished?

i would be very surprised. neither of those things is even against the rules. the OP is guessing that the guy is doing them maliciously but there is no way to know for sure.

if you want to start banning people for making bad decisions that will get very interesting.

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 12, 20162 votes

If you have a replay you can tell if they're doing it maliciously or not. Trust me. I have watched streamers do trollzy things in order to spite teammates, and when I watch the stream (I turned off the volume so that I can't hear his comments so they don't affect my judgment) I can tell when he's trolling his team and be 99.99% sure.

I can even tell the difference between someone who tries to force a duo mid because they like playing duo mid and someone who forces a duo mid to try to get the other guy to go AFK.

Spicy RiceOct 12, 20161 votes

you know, the last time people judged each other based on intuition/"I just know it", the Salem witch trials occurred

EDIT: also, McCarthy

OneMustFallOct 12, 20162 votes

What one person considers trolling (Someone not grouping) is the other person thinking this is the best way to win the game (Splitting and taking objectives). But in the minds of most league players, they know what's best so they report people anyway which makes it hard to tell when someone is intentionally sabotaging the team or not. Griefing (Like intentionally trying to get your team killed or stealing camps) is reportable but difficult to prove so players only get punished when it is blatant or excessive.

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 12, 20162 votes

That's why we need replays. Replays can tell if someone thinks splitpushing is the best way to win games, or if they just stay in the jungle and AFK farm because they're mad they didn't get mid lane and don't want to get leaverbustered by actually going AFK.

GankRivenOct 12, 20161 votes

what if they are split pushing and then asks their team to turtle up, so they can split then their team dies to a 3v4? not being condescending. i would genuinely like to know. ive made plenty of decisions to split and then my team dies and the enemy adc pushes into base before i can back. i agree replays would help but people really do make poor decisions. hope these replays will be able to show pings as well babe.

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 12, 20162 votes

Trust me, it's way more obvious than it seems. Watch any of the streamers, you can tell which ones are trolling and which ones are making bad calls. It's one of those "I know it when I see it" cases.

GankRivenOct 12, 20161 votes

coughmeteoscough**[zombie-nunu-bummed]

its just a joke guys calm down.

Morality CoachOct 12, 20162 votes

That's why the new behavior system is so dumb. They didn't learn the first time people will just run it down mid if they have 1000 chat bans. The new system is the same thing basically, except now people just farm raptors during teamfights to throw instead of rant, which winds up being way more frustrating.

I'd rather have a muted rager coming to fight than a dude that's made a decision not to take it from some loser and throw.

LaserDeathBladeOct 12, 20162 votes

That might just be how they play lol....

A lot of players have a solo carry mentality.

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 12, 20161 votes

It's an "I know it when I see it" thing. If you see a replay of an intentional troll who purposely choose not to help vs someone who believes they can solo carry, you'll see the differences.

BGHOct 13, 20162 votes

You are 100% right. They are adding a replay system next season. It allows you to download the replays on your computer. Hopefully we can use those replays and attach them to a riot support ticket with our reports to catch these clever sly players and then it would help solve the issue.

Winston The CatOct 14, 20162 votes

I can not agree with this more, worse yet are the people who are queing and in a pre-made. When one of them there's always that type of person unfortunately, begins low key flaming, trying to bait you, me or other players in flaming back more violently or being toxic. Currently the automated system can't pick that up somehow.. I recently received a honestly earned.. chat restriction due to losing some self control and getting baited by a 4 man premade into flaming and being toxic. Chat restriction now long gone as it being my first offense ever only 10 games which I played off that day or the day after, now I'm just looking at no rewards for idk how long, if someone could give me the time that lasts for (Ineligible to earn rewards due to previous restrictions) that would be great thank you. But back to the topic, many times I've been flamed by a pre-made and looking back at it now what they said and how I felt, isn't right whatsoever, we play games to relax, and have fun, an outlet to express ourselves (Toxicness included unfortunately) and I really looking back feel traumatized by some of those experiences. The things people have said, done and how they would all gang up, bait you into being toxic etc. Muting still doesn't help damage is done, and you it just messes you up man.. Riot I don't see how these players aren't banned yet there are so many of them, and its fairly blatant and obvious. A lot of work needs to be done because, this isn't right.

Croatian NinjaOct 12, 20161 votes

they calling me sometimes silver idiot...

CrazyBear1987Oct 13, 20161 votes

Hopefully the replay system will help fix this, as you will have visual proof of misconduct. This is considered unsportsmanlike and helping the enemy team.