So i got a chat ban, and would like some info on why.

GenoXx··1 votes·818 views

My all chat is being restricted for 10 games. I want to know why. Because if anything I put in all chat seem negative, it's responding you other players who started the negativity to begin with. So can some one give me a little explaining about this?

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SuperLuigiLXIV7 votes

Yeah. Yeah, I can.

You responded to other players with negativity.

Doesn't matter if they started it. You're not out on the streets defending your pride here, not that any of the men I've ever known have ever needed to do that.

You are a house guest in Riot's house, sharing space with eleven million other house guests.

That means that when someone starts shit, RIOT finishes it. It's not your fight, it's Riot's.

GenoXx1 votes

So i alone gets punished because others want to be toxic? Wow dude....some system they got here

SuperLuigiLXIV8 votes

What makes you think you alone were punished?

You screwed up. You did it as a response to another screwup, but you screwed up too. So you got punished for it.

What makes you expect to receive proof that someone else also got punished?

GenoXx1 votes

Because quite frankly that's not fair. If someone else is ruining your game and you respond to that, you shouldn't get a punishment. I didn't int or spread negativity to my other teammates. I never provoke it either. And I get punished for responding? I sure would like to have proof. Because I've literally been getting one toxic person in 6 out of 10 of my games.

Has No Team3 votes

Terrible logic....

You are responsible for your comms. This means you are responsible for how you behave. Other people's actions do not make breaking the rules acceptable. There doesn't magically become some justifiable wiggle room in how you should conduct yourself because someone else is not conducting themselves properly. Stop worrying about other people and focus on yourself.

GenoXx1 votes

Im so done with this game. I'm suppose to just sit idle for the rest of the game when i person ints or starts to be toxic. Can't leave cuz i'll get a penalty for that too. And now I can't even ask the toxic person why are you doing this.

Has No Team3 votes

Whoa buddy don't be discouraged yet. There are things you can do to continue playing the game and still get your enjoyment from the game without feeding in to toxicity. First you can mute toxic players. Second you can report them after game. If you still see too many problematic games then try to join a club or make some friends to duo with. Having someone to have your back can carry an otherwise unwinnable game. I recently had an intentionally feeding Udyr in my game who went 0/23 after stating he would feed. We still won because I was autofilled support but my adc and I still worked together and we weren't even duo'd. Just don't give up and keep going. Do not react to toxicity just report it.

SuperLuigiLXIV9 votes

Why is it not fair?

You can say it's not fair all you like, but, to quote my grandfather...

"I don't care who started it, knock it off or I'll whoop both your asses."

Riot's not interested in who started it. They're after who did it. You didn't start it, but you did do it, did you not?

Has No Team1 votes

Damn this shit right here reminds me of so many ass whoopins i got as a kid.... That's where I picked up my outlook... Mind yourself and not others because minding others is how you have to go out and pick a switch.

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

Damn, you had to do that too?

We had a peach tree in the backyard. ;_;

ModThe Djinn4 votes

If you can provide your chat logs we can better assist you.

Without them all I can do is say that responding to negativity or toxicity with negativity or toxicity is just as bad as being negative or toxic in the first place.

GenoXx3 votes

How do i do that?

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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How do i do that?

They should be visible when you log in to the client, I believe? I've also heard they may be presented partially through your restriction -- to be honest I'm not sure which is the case with a 10-game restriction.

GenoXx1 votes

Where exactly?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Where exactly?

I'm afraid I don't know -- never seen them myself, and they normally pop up very obviously at some point. If you can't find them, take HalcyonDweller's advice and submit a support ticket to Riot. They'll give you your logs, and we can help you then.

GenoXx1 votes

Game 1 GenociderX: ceral is good GenociderX: ...dude GenociderX: whew GenociderX: the focus was reakl GenociderX: ?? GenociderX: like GenociderX: thats annoying GenociderX: gank bot pls when u get a chanvce GenociderX: why 4 bot GenociderX: foreal, GenociderX: that doesnt answe ranything GenociderX: muted GenociderX: now>?? GenociderX: sorry but that gank is over due GenociderX: you focsu top more though GenociderX: like wow GenociderX: xerath cant even mia though GenociderX: and hes chewing out kha? GenociderX: thats twice no mia GenociderX: .... GenociderX: .... GenociderX: no point in mia he says GenociderX: like when they 4 bot GenociderX: sure GenociderX: you dont play rank apparently GenociderX: mia is everything GenociderX: and? GenociderX: like ur mid lane game GenociderX: that doesnt matter GenociderX: wasnt inting GenociderX: my death ratio doesnt mater this game GenociderX: i played mord support out of curiosity GenociderX: your just bad a mid laning GenociderX: i usually play top or adc GenociderX: press yes GenociderX: someone who doesnt think mia is important have no right to talk GenociderX: ill just report you anyways GenociderX: xerath GenociderX: ok, what was my role xerath GenociderX: enlighten me GenociderX: now stfu GenociderX: im sup, and your complaingin about my kilsl ? GenociderX: and? GenociderX: muted GenociderX: im not understanding why u arent ffing GenociderX: not, dude has been flaming literally for 10 mins GenociderX: over my kda GenociderX: only cowards do stupid shit like thatr lol GenociderX: when i say mute GenociderX: dude, GenociderX: riot can see ur chat logs GenociderX: so thats useless Game 2 GenociderX: yes GenociderX: really dude? GenociderX: so you gona just throw GenociderX: because im VI/ GenociderX: wander what ur rank is GenociderX: ok so GenociderX: janna said shes jsut gonna throw GenociderX: cause im vi bot GenociderX: litereally jsut said GenociderX: i do well in my vi bot lanes GenociderX: ill just mute and report you GenociderX: just wow dude GenociderX: how can you support trolling though GenociderX: im not inting though GenociderX: tf GenociderX: lemme see GenociderX: u fed GenociderX: like, goes an feeds/ trolls for no reason GenociderX: pretty sure you just made u ended up with sup GenociderX: and??? GenociderX: i can do that GenociderX: i died cuz ur dumb ass fed GenociderX: on purpsioe GenociderX: how did jhin get items GenociderX: irony of that is, i did okay on baot....you just fed. and i usually GenociderX: do good bot vi GenociderX: im lv 3 GenociderX: lv 36 tho GenociderX: ugh noi they dont GenociderX: i just like diversity GenociderX: and i do good my vi bot games GenociderX: no you were GenociderX: i ddnt need it GenociderX: obviously i started with e GenociderX: so nothing GenociderX: u just decided to throw the game GenociderX: thats all there is to it GenociderX: yea sure GenociderX: .. GenociderX: lol should've never threw GenociderX: i didn't through GenociderX: my role was to farm bot, and you stop that GenociderX: just ff GenociderX: really sucks when u cant just enjoy a game GenociderX: tf? GenociderX: i can if i want GenociderX: i wasnt the one feeding GenociderX: it was this 9 yr old janna GenociderX: and no it doesnt GenociderX: janna decideds to throw and its my fault lol GenociderX: hysterical GenociderX: u can at least report the troll

Here we go. This i remember very well that I was speaking in response to other toxic players. I can admit it would sound very uncivl. But I was provoked by a toxic player. In both games. My goodness, What am I suppose to do? Game two had a support who literally inted and was uncooperative. my support that was...

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted} GenociderX: xerath cant even mia though GenociderX: thats twice no mia GenociderX: .... GenociderX: .... GenociderX: no point in mia he says GenociderX: like when they 4 bot GenociderX: like ur mid lane game GenociderX: your just bad a mid laning GenociderX: someone who doesnt think mia is important have no right to talk GenociderX: now stfu GenociderX: only cowards do stupid shit like thatr lol

GenociderX: so you gona just throw GenociderX: janna said shes jsut gonna throw GenociderX: just wow dude GenociderX: lemme see GenociderX: u fed GenociderX: like, goes an feeds/ trolls for no reason GenociderX: i died cuz ur dumb ass fed GenociderX: irony of that is, i did okay on baot....you just fed. and i usually GenociderX: u just decided to throw the game GenociderX: i wasnt the one feeding GenociderX: it was this 9 yr old janna

Blaming players just creates more negativity. Same with harping on someone's behavior over and over.

Insults (9 year old, coward, dumb ass, bad mid, etc.) also really count against you.

This is a reasonable chat restriction. In the future I would recommend simply not engaging with players trying to rile you up. Report them and move on to the next game.

GenoXx1 votes

AGAIN, this is also directed to one player! I have no reason to involve any others into this. Edit the Toxic one, and were purely responses

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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AGAIN, this is also directed to one player! I have no reason to involve any others into this. Edit the Toxic one, and were purely responses

Insulting or harassing one player isn't any better than doing it to every player. It's not allowed either way, even if they did it first.

GenoXx1 votes

Then that system is doomed to be flawed and tilt more people away. If Riot can't stop people from being toxic, that also can spread "apparently" then I can only hope they don't lose people because of the community alone. I can imagine new players starting games, gets a toxic player, and respond to them. Only to get punished for it.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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Then that system is doomed to be flawed and tilt more people away.

You're allowed to respond so long as your response isn't toxic. Yours happens to be, as you were harassing, blaming, and insulting the other player unnecessarily.

You're welcome to say "Hey dude...knock it off, please" and stuff like that. You're not welcome to call them a dumb ass.

If you don't change that behavior, your next punishments will end up escalated.

GenoXx1 votes

I probably won't play for a long while. You don't think i haven't tried that? lol If the people behind punishments can reason out why things turned the way they did in a game, instead punish everyone involved from one person, It makes me tilt.

Edit: can't

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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I probably won't play for a long while. You don't think i haven't tried that? lol If the people behind punishments can reason out why things turned the way they did in a game, instead punish everyone involved from one person, It makes me tilt.

Edit: can't

The point is it doesn't matter who started it -- everyone is responsible for their own behavior, and when that behavior crosses the line (for any reason), that behavior is now a problem.

nerak233 votes

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AGAIN, this is also directed to one player! I have no reason to involve any others into this. Edit the Toxic one, and were purely responses

Put it like this, if you only talking to one player everyone still had to read it. That's part of the reason your not allowed to do it.

Has No Team1 votes

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GenociderX: muted GenociderX: your just bad a mid laning GenociderX: ill just report you anyways GenociderX: now stfu GenociderX: muted GenociderX: only cowards do stupid shit like thatr lol GenociderX: u fed GenociderX: like, goes an feeds/ trolls for no reason GenociderX: i died cuz ur dumb ass fed GenociderX: on purpsioe GenociderX: lol should've never threw GenociderX: just ff GenociderX: i wasnt the one feeding GenociderX: it was this 9 yr old janna GenociderX: janna decideds to throw and its my fault lol GenociderX: u can at least report the troll

So these lines in specific are the determining factor. You had no respect for your team and consistently were jsut rude to them while spamming things that had nothing to do with increasing the success rate on your team.

GenoXx1 votes

It wasn't my team It was the toxic player.....literally all of that was towards one person.

Has No Team3 votes

That doesn't make it any better. There's no justification in allowing yourself to speak to any member/members of your team like this. Their behavior does not pardon yours. Their behavior does not modify the rules. So mind your own behavior and report those who fall below the standard of acceptable.

GenoXx1 votes

{quoted}

Then that system is doomed to be flawed and tilt more people away. If Riot can't stop people from being toxic, that also can spread "apparently" then I can only hope they don't lose people because of the community alone. I can imagine new players starting games, gets a toxic player, and respond to them. Only to get punished for it.

Has No Team3 votes

Do you really not see where you got the punishment you deserved? Do you really think your behavior was in line with the expectations that the rules set? If so then you should probably stop playing this game or any other. If you cannot see that countering toxicity with toxicity isn't a solution just a bigger issue then please continue your behavior because you'll get banned.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

The Djinn's method is the best and most direct way to get your logs, but if for some reason your logs are unavailable through the client, you can submit a support ticket to Riot requesting the logs of the games for which you were punished. They will give you a text body containing all of your chat entries from those games.

Has No Team4 votes

So they're gonna ask you to post your log but I am going to save you some time. If you harassed team members , said something homophobic/racially charged or happened to spam then yeah you're rightfully restricted. On the off chance you don't want to show your logs I hope this helped.

Edit: also remember just because someone else chimps out in your game doesn't mean that it modifies the expected conduct of other players. The rules remain in play regardless of the behaviors of others so always mind yourself and mute problematic team members rather than focus on their behavior.

GenoXx2 votes

how to I access my chat logs?

nerak231 votes

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how to I access my chat logs?

Can anyone give him this Info ?

Warios3 votes

Two wrongs don't make a wright right, post your logs you were sent for better feedback.

opps

ModPeriscope3 votes

Two wrongs don't make a wright

Hey now, we're talking behavior, not airplanes.

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