Waiting 15+ minutes for a match because people dont press okay is really frustrating and I think something needs to be done about it.
Also in addition to the penalties, please give more time for people to click accept.
Firu2 votesThat wouldn't work... The reason that feature is in there is so it can detect and stop people who aren't present at the keyboard from joining a Champion Select. I just don't think you should punish someone for being AFK before even the Champion Select. I'm also unsure if giving more time would make much difference.
I get your frustration but the feature just looks like it's currently working as it should - a last out, intentionally or not, for people to bail out of Champion Select.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesThat wouldn't work... The reason that feature is in there is so it can detect and stop people who aren't present at the keyboard from joining a Champion Select. I just don't think you should punish someone for being AFK before even the Champion Select. I'm also unsure if giving more time would make much difference.
I get your frustration but the feature just looks like it's currently working as it should - a last out, intentionally or not, for people to bail out of Champion Select.
You know what, how about bailing out when you're still queuing?
If you're gonna be afk after clicking "queue" it's your fault, and for a first time offense it's a 5 minute penalty only.
That is in no way too harsh. 30 minute queues are not okay.
4th Chiming Lamb2 votesNo. Too harsh, that.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesNo. Too harsh, that.
How is 5 minutes penalty too harsh
4th Chiming Lamb2 votesBecause it's a five-minute penalty for not being at the game before the game even started.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesBecause it's a five-minute penalty for not being at the game before the game even started.
You can think of the current system as a 30 minute penalty for being at the game, paying attention to the screen, clicking accept, locking in your champs just because some other people don't pay attention.
4th Chiming Lamb2 votesNo, you can't. The two things are different entirely.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesNo, you can't. The two things are different entirely.
Right now there's no incentive to not back out of a game at all. So people do it often, and all the time. And other people get stuck having to requeu 5-6 times per game.
There's gotta be a way to fix this.
By the way: here's the thing
If you want to back out of a queue, you have 2 minutes to do it while queing with no penalty.
If you really have an emergency that prevents you from clicking accept, like you really need to go somewhere or do something, then 5 minutes won't be an issue for you since you probably will be gone for longer than 5 minutes.
Firu2 votesNo, just no.
What if you thought you had time but had to bail out? The system gives you two opportunities to do so now without impacting the actual game.
First, you can not accept or fail to accept the queue-pop button. No penalty there, no in-game impact yet. Second, you can dodge in Champion Select. Penalty to you the player but no in-game impact yet.
The system your proposing is basically the same as above except now it adds a penalty to both tiers? In that case, what's the point of differentiating between dodging in champion select or being AFK before champion select? Your proposal says there is none. I'm saying such a system is way too harsh and the current system's punishment is appropriate enough.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesNo, just no.
What if you thought you had time but had to bail out? The system gives you two opportunities to do so now without impacting the actual game.
then 5 minutes won't matter
4th Chiming Lamb2 votesAlright, I'm about to disagree with you and downvote your post, but first: OH MY FUCKING GOD, ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ACCOUNTS JUST TO NOT ACCEPT THE FUCKING QUEUE CHECKS!?!??!?!?!!??!!?
So, disagree/downvote reason: The Queue Check happens before the game even starts. If I go get food and miss a queue, I don't want to hae to wait five minutes to queue up again. What if I went to check something?? What if someone called me?
I mean, there shouldn't be Queues long enough that I can take a fucking shower and come back to still being in queue (I've done it once before, a month ago. Never letting Riot forget that one. Ever.), but a punishment is a bit much for missing one or two pops.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesI mean, there shouldn't be Queues long enough that I can take a fucking shower and come back to still being in queue
That's what I'm trying to avoid here. Most 30 minute queues are due to people not readying up for match.
In dota 2 it never takes more than 5 minutes to get a game, and almost always people will accept match because there is a 5 minute penalty for not accepting match. (as mentioned before, i'm not saying everything about dota is better, but this particular system is better in dota and it would be nice to see 5 minute or less queues in league too).
Hellpyre1 votesThe point of the dodge penalties is to disincentivize bailing out at Champion Select because you don't like the opposing team composition or because you team isn't exactly how you envisioned it. It's not to punish people for deciding they aren't up for a game after all or for stepping away from the keyboard for a moment.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesThe point of the dodge penalties is to disincentivize bailing out at Champion Select because you don't like the opposing team composition or because you team isn't exactly how you envisioned it. It's not to punish people for deciding they aren't up for a game after all or for stepping away from the keyboard for a moment.
For stepping away from keyboard = thats why i suggest more time to click.
But the point of my suggestion is to incentivize not giving innocent players 30 min queues because 15 times (not even kidding) they didnt click accept
dota has this system, and im not saying dota better than league, leagues report system is better for example, but for the queue system dota has better. you never wait 30 mins for dota queues
aj502 Oneill1 votesDon't you get a 3min "penalty" for not accepting match?