How to Avoid Getting Punished

Subdue··21 votes·2,585 views

For most people, just communicating with teammates the way you would acquaintances sitting in the same room with you is all you need to not get punished, but if you actually need a breakdown of what to do, here it is.

*Note: I don't include intentional feeding, leaving, or any other active attempts to ruin the game in this analysis. This analysis is based on the assumption that you don't understand what's getting you in trouble. In those circumstances, you know exactly what the issue is.

In a neutral game (no one is already tilted, argumentative, trolling, or anything of the sort):

  1. Avoid hate speech. This really should be obvious, and is completely unambiguous.
  2. Avoid pointless criticism. Examples of pointless criticisms include: Stop feeding, should have warded, jungler never ganks, etc. This sort of criticism adds no value to the game and annoys the player being criticized.
  3. If you wish to lead, communicate in concise, tone neutral directives. Examples: Let's baron, Ward red, No flash mid, gank please.
  4. As an addendum to #3, if people don't follow you, LET IT GO. Clearly you haven't established yourself as "the leader" of your team. No amount of chatting at them will fix this.

In a game that has gone negative:

  1. NEVER ARGUE WITH SOMEONE IN GAME OVER ANYTHING. DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE RIGHT OR WRONG.
  2. Make 1 (one, singular) attempt to diffuse the situation. Example: Oops, my bad, should have tried to gank sooner.
  3. If #2 fails, say you've muted them, but don't actually do it. Often they'll stop if no one is listening. They might have something positive to say later on.
  4. If #3 fails, actually mute them.
  5. If you had to do more than #2, report after the game. Don't mention you're reporting. Don't ask for reports. Just do it.

If you follow these simple instructions, I guarantee you won't get penalized.

20 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram11 votes

Woah there, you're making far too much sense here.

+1

MaroModo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V1AhVvxr,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-09-11T18:15:19.993+0000)

Woah there, you're making far too much sense here.

+1

Lord tantrum lol can you go into the thread about the guy who got a 2 week on his first day of real play. I think he needs moderation

A Wounded Healer1 votes

I was perma banned last night and wrote a support ticket but haven't gotten a response yet. Not sure if you'll see this message...

DarkRitual4 votes

Secret tip: if you want to yell at someone, yell at your screen. Do not type anything. It will still help vent anger a bit though.

DeathBurst1 votes

That's the most under-rated tip ever. Look at Trick. I find it annoying when he's constantly insulting everyone in his streams, but at least he does it at his screen, not in game.

On the other hand, I'm actually amazed by people like Pawnce, who always stay super relaxed, even when a team-mate feed their arse off. This guy is too chill ^^'

CodenameCupcake3 votes

Dont make any contact with anybody and you wont get banned, if you say anything chances are you'll get reported for breathing incorrectly

Subdue2 votes

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Dont make any contact with anybody and you wont get banned, if you say anything chances are you'll get reported for breathing incorrectly

As someone who types in every single came, I can tell you, this is entirely hogwash. If you say /toxic/ things chances are you will get reported.

TrulyBland2 votes

Saw your post in the other thread and wished I could upvote it twice. Now I can. w00t!

Seriously though, I think this is the best post of that kind that I've seen on the forums. Covers pretty much all of the unwritten and written rules. Especially like #3 in a negative game. I like to imagine I invented that... I probably didn't, but I still like to imagine it.

ModUlanopo2 votes

Very nice post! I don't tell people I muted them, but otherwise spot on for what I do.

S0NA1 votes
  1. Don't say racial slurs or words like cancer, aids, etc.

Congratz you'll never get punished even if you int. Source: extremely toxic friends who follow this rule, and personal experience reporting people who say "n*gger" but do nothing else toxic.

Subdue2 votes

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  1. Don't say racial slurs or words like cancer, aids, etc.

Congratz you'll never get punished even if you int. Source: extremely toxic friends who follow this rule, and personal experience reporting people who say "n*gger" but do nothing else toxic.

There's plenty of evidence on this very board that proves this is not the case. Here's the first one I saw on the front page:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/HULBEhEO-please-tell-me-why-i-got-banned-here-and-just-for-1-game

Vigopl1 votes

Dont call people names. It is really that simple. And don't speak negative about a player who is trying.

Subdue1 votes

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Dont call people names. It is really that simple. And don't speak negative about a player who is trying.

Correction: Don't speak negatively about anyone, period.

Psyrik1 votes

unless they deserve it [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

(jk xD)

DeathBurst1 votes

Actually, I kinda disagree with point 5, the "don't mention it" part.

Tantram repeatedly said that a tiny fraction of players ever get any kind of punishment. Yet, there is largely more than a "tiny fraction" of negative people in the game. Why? Because there is some leniency in the system, you're not getting punished for one bad game, you have to demonstrate a trend of bad behaviors.

So what will happen to all those players that just have "one bad game" once in a while, if I silently report them? Nothing. They'll never get punished (and I'm not arguing they should), and they'll never change their behavior. Next time they'll have a bad day, they'll be just as toxic.

Whereas if you say you reported them, that's a clear sign that they did something not tolerated by the rest of the community. Maybe they'll change their behavior BEFORE getting any kind of punishment. I'm not too optimistic, but the alternative (just silently reporting them), we can be sure it won't do anything at all. So when you report someone, speak up and say it. And explain why. Don't do a 2 pages speech, but make it clear it's not just because "they feed" or "they didn't gank enough" or some silly pretext like that. Give them some clues to correct their behavior.

More generally, if someone does something bad in game, makes mean comments towards some minority, sexist/homophobic/racist jokes, etc. SPEAK UP! Especially if it's not targeted at you! It's important. The community at large needs to show that it won't tolerate this kind of behavior, needs to show its support to the targeted people. Don't just silently report them.

P.S.: the rest (i.e. the vast majority of the post), I 100% agree with. I just had to speak up about that small point.

Subdue1 votes

If you want to try to reform a player who's having a "bad" (Read: toxic, hostile) game, save it for the end game chat. It is 100% to the detriment of your team for you to attempt to correct that player in game. The very best case is that you have now distracted one or more players, and the worst is that you'll have incited the toxic player to become even worse.

As for standing up for teammates, my response is usually, as described above, make one attempt to diffuse the situation. "Alright bud that's enough let's keep it clean." If it continues, I address the target of the harassment (not the toxic player, never the toxic player), and say "Please mute him now so you don't tilt." Even for this bit of advice, you say it once, only once.

That is the extent that you should get involved, at least while in game. Hopefully they heed your advice - which I personally have found they will 70%-80% of the time. Once in a while they'll choose not to and it devolves into an argument. There's nothing you can do in that case other than report both players.

DeathBurst1 votes

Of course, no time to lose during the game itself, it's better in the end-game chat. Still, I think it's important to give "feedback" when you report someone. They can't improve without it.

But for targeted harassment and real toxic behavior (not just someone raging because of a bad game), that's a bit off-topic compared to your OP, I simply started the conversation because it was somewhat related, but I wouldn't want to derail. But I think it's important to get involved. The game is just a game, doesn't really matter if you lose it in the end because you spent a couple minutes chatting. While making minorities feel welcome in the game and showing them they have a place here, not the toxic persons, THAT is important, and THAT matters a lot.

Mysticman891 votes

My preferred solution to whenever I mess up or someone criticizes me: "I am unskilled"

People have a hard time being mad at that, and it's probably true. Even if you don't think it's true, you can think to yourself that it's obviously sarcasm and feel smug, but either way the situation is diffused.

Jayce Top1 votes

How to not get banned 101:

Dont say any swear words ??? Profit

Int all you want, say your team is bad without any bad words, and you wont get punished.

Subdue1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jayce Top,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V1AhVvxr,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-09-11T22:23:18.066+0000)

How to not get banned 101:

Dont say any swear words ??? Profit

Int all you want, say your team is bad without any bad words, and you wont get punished.

We already have proof right on this board that this is not true. Here's an example from the front page:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/57B9AhV4-25-game-chat-restriction-for-one-game

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