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This is the first time I've ever had to report all 4 players

Funkin Dunkin··1 votes·374 views

Just had a game where two of our members refused to communicate with each other resulting in no jungle player. Normally that's fine, but its what they did that wasn't. One of them high jacked top lane, which was mine. Despite my plead with him to not do that because it was originally his fault, he took it anyway. Forcing me into the "jungle role". Our mid even told him to take top despite this fact which is what I'm reporting him for; inciting poor behavior. Our other guy went "support" but roamed the map more than he was ever bot lane. As a result, our adc decided to just feed because of the situation. Then our "sup" and adc afked for 10 minutes hoping for a FF. Unfortunately, 2 of our guys kept voting no. So now I just wasted 38 minutes because of failure to communicate with team x2, intentional feeding, greifing x4, and afk x2. What in the hell has become of this game?

In case you're wondering if and why I am blameless? Because not only did I mute all at minute 2, I assumed the role of "jungle" and tried to the best of my ability to assist with the team. Which, sadly, Riot says is all I am "allowed" to do otherwise I get banned too..... [slayer-jinx-unamused]

9 Comments

Tulare1 votes

I agree with all of your reports except griefing for the support player.

"Our other guy went "support" but roamed the map more than he was ever bot lane. As a result, our adc decided to just feed because of the situation."

Regrettable that your adc couldn't handle the situation but "support" is not chained to bottom lane.

Funkin Dunkin2 votes

According to Riot, and this is from their words during the whole Nunu/Smite support debacle, unless a player clearly states their intention to the rest of the team if he is going off meta, he is greifing. He never stated any intention and never communicate with his teammates.

Edit- Your also condoning his 10 minute afk?

Tulare1 votes

I'm not condoning his 10-minute AFK. He definitely deserved the afk/leaving game report. I disagree only with the "griefing" report in that case.

As far as Riot's position regarding playing off meta and when/if it is acceptable, they've made contradictory statements on the matter and haven't demonstrated a consistent response. Their most recent stance seems to be, "Playing off meta isn't reportable, except when your team really doesn't want you to play off meta." They want to have their cake and eat it too. I choose to stick with their historical position that the metagame is not prescriptive and that strategic and tactical disagreements are not reportable.

Funkin Dunkin1 votes

I just feel that if you're going to be in a roll then you should stick to that role. Leaving your AD to fend for himself is not fair for him/her whatsoever. Especially with today's cc chain that we have. If you occasionally leave, that's fine; Bard has to all the time. But to never be there is just causing unnecessary toxicity to a game, regardless if this one was already toxic to begin with.

Tulare2 votes

What is the "support" role, though? IMO, the only defining feature of it is that the champion makes do on a shoestring budget without skimming too much income from the laners or the junglers. The other four positions are defined by their location: top, mid, bottom, and jungle. Location is literally the only defining feature of any of those roles. Jungle has the steepest requirement in that it actually needs to be able to clear the jungle. Everything else is purely a convention. Nothing whatsoever defines that an AD marksman must go bot, a mage mid, a bruiser top, etc. If support manages a tight budget and chooses to support the team by roaming a lot, that's purely a tactical decision. Nothing, nothing about the support role requires the player to babysit an AD marksman bot lane.

Funkin Dunkin1 votes

See now you're being difficult for the sake of being difficult. From the very beginning Riot always wanted 2 players in the bottom lane. Back in Season 1 they anticipated that it would be 2 fighters/juggers/tanks in the bottom lane while the AD was mid lane. However, during the course of the life of this game it evolved to the support and marksman being in that lane. Ever since, Riot has intrinsically made support a bot lane role. Even when you are in pre-game picking champions, the support role is shown in the bottom lane. Stop trying to use sematics to change what is universally true. Yes the support is for everyone eventually and can and does sometimes roam to other lanes. But the support as a role has always been inherently bottom lane.

Tulare2 votes

I disagree with you but I am not being difficult for its own sake. I don't dispute that support as a bottom lane role is an emergent property of the game's design. I do not believe, however, that it is deliberate or explicitly expected (by Riot). I think they put the support role in bot lane on the pre-game map because they had to put it somewhere and because that's where it's traditionally played. The fact that doing so reinforces a mindset like yours that it's natural and intentional for support to go bot lane is a deeply regrettable side effect, IMO.

stopmakingmemad1 votes

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Funkin Dunkin1 votes

Wasn't even ranked. I just wanted to get my 1 game in today before I had to adult. Great way to start my day.

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