I started writing in tickets for the more egregious trolls

Hexs Fortune·Dec 3, 2017·3 votes·515 views

...and I'm realizing i'm running into a super troll about once per day.

Says alot about the playerbase and how moderation may not be going far enough.

The latest one was during a blind pick game. The troll locks mid, ignoring the player who called it first. Tells him to shut up he's blazed and doesn't care.

Then the game starts and the troll taunts the player, threatening to report him for letting himself get bullied out of mid and talking him down for being weak. At that point I tell him to stop and /fullmute all.

After the game in the lobby, now unmuted (thanks rito), the troll is still going on.

yep 1 a day..

11 Comments

EL HAMSTERODec 3, 20172 votes

remember only .006% of players get perma banned. that means you will only run into a teammate who will get a permanent ban once about every 4000 games.

TrulyBlandDec 3, 20171 votes

You don't actually know that. 0.006% is their overall distribution in the playerbase, but not all players play the same amount of games are thus equally likely to be encountered.

Intentionally absurd example: What percentage of the people you encounter every day are Chinese? Chances are that this number is vastly different from 18.3% even though that is the chance of a random individual selected on earth being Chinese.

EL HAMSTERODec 3, 20171 votes

well .006% means 6 players out of every 100,000 will be permanently banned. statistically speaking that means the odds you will get one as a teammate are 1 in 4167.

sure i guess you could go on a really unlucky streak and get 4 or 5 in your next 4000 games. the odds are that no teammate you played with in the last year got permanently banned. and no teammate you play with this year probably will either. just statistically speaking.

Magical PlayerDec 3, 20171 votes

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well .006% means 6 players out of every 100,000 will be permanently banned. statistically speaking that means the odds you will get one as a teammate are 1 in 4167.

sure i guess you could go on a really unlucky streak and get 4 or 5 in your next 4000 games. the odds are that no teammate you played with in the last year got permanently banned. and no teammate you play with this year will either. just statistically speaking.

that statistic is out dated riot never updated it its from season 1-2 when the community was not nearly as large

EL HAMSTERODec 3, 20171 votes

well its a % so the total number of players should not effect it. and it is the number riot still uses today.

you could speculate that the number is a bit higher today or it could be a bit lower we dont know. but going by the number riot claims, my numbers are true.

Magical PlayerDec 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TycqAUZm,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-03T22:11:10.017+0000)

well its a % so the total number of players should not effect it. and it is the number riot still uses today.

you could speculate that the number is a bit higher today or it could be a bit lower we dont know. but going by the number riot claims, my numbers are true.

again they stated its out dated

TrulyBlandDec 4, 20171 votes

My point is, you are not equally likely to be matched with a player that plays 1 game a month vs. a player that plays 20 games every single day. So it all depends on how frequently permabanned players play games in comparison to the average player.

Edit: I recommend looking up Bayes Theorem. Very important thing when it comes to understanding statistics.

EL HAMSTERODec 4, 20171 votes

you are thinking a toxic player plays more games than a regular player?

I don't know how we would know that but you are right I assumed they would play about the same amount on average. if the super-toxics play 3x more games than the average player I guess you would be 3x more likely to be matched with them than what I said.

TrulyBlandDec 4, 20171 votes

Not really saying they do, I'm just saying that this could (at least in part) explain the difference in how often people seem to run across toxic players vs. how many there are supposedly.

It makes sense, too, from some perspective. Not trying to defend permabanned players here, but a lot of toxic behaviour is born out of frustration and tilt. And the more time you have between games the less likely you are going to be stuck in tilt mode. You are also going to be more frustrated the more you care (or obsess) about the game.

Inversely: Is it really likely that somebody who plays very rarely, possibly just to catch up with some friends, will get so upset over this game that they start acting in a way that will get them permabanned? Or maybe even more importantly: How many of those will simply quit when they get a 14-day ban they think they didn't deserve?

There's a lot of speculation from my side here, but from what I've seen on this forum, a lot of permabanned players seemed to care maybe a little too much about this game.

AngelaDEDec 4, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TycqAUZm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-03T20:38:53.057+0000)

remember only .006% of players get perma banned. that means you will only run into a teammate who will get a permanent ban once about every 4000 games.

With the stupid reason they gave me for my permaban, I would expect the permaban percentage to be much higher. Are you sure Riot isn't paying you for saying this? :D