Punish Toxic/Trolls/AFKs Harder in Ranked

GGumby·Sep 9, 2016·4 votes·728 views

It's solo que, and everyone runs into Trolls and AFKs. And the fact that everyone runs into them means people aren't scared to do so.

Yes, this is another thread complaining about teammates, but this game's community really needs drastic improvement. People trolling and leaving games, especially in ranked, are far too frequent. Why is this problem still running so rampant?

Especially on my games as of late, I'm honestly back in a position of wondering why I play ranked. I enjoy playing League, but holy shit does this game's community push me back away each time. What is being done at the moment to discourage this kind of behavior?

17 Comments

SarutobiSep 9, 20161 votes

You have to remember that not everyone has the greatest Internet, let alone that ISP are always reliable. You have to put into account that maybe the person leaving the game isn't doing so intentionally. And while it's not an excuse (in my opinion) it's sadly what's going to happen when you play an online game!

With that said you also have to put into account that it may not even be the player or their ISP as well. The client isn't the greatest and have always had problems (Bugsplat errors) so along with the player not being at fault, it could very well be the client itself, and sadly Riot is the only one who can fix that side of the problem.

To be honest ther really is nothing they can do. We have LeaveBuster, but more often than not people will just go on a smurf and do the same thing. This is also going to happen if you ban the account. Since this is a free to play game they really can't do anything to solve the problem. Unless there was a way to stay in a game even after your internet crashes, or can stop terrible lag, all of which cannot be known till you actually get into a game is just impossible to make!

KarunamonSep 9, 20162 votes

Well, sort of. It's not exactly fast to get from lv1 - lv30, and you have to buy 15 champions. Those are the bare requirements for being in ranked..

On a general note though, I'd like to think Ranked should have higher standards than normal queue. Ranked is where people go to win, so in my opinion, there should be less tolerance for bad behavior.

SarutobiSep 9, 20161 votes

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Well, sort of. It's not exactly fast to get from lv1 - lv30, and you have to buy 15 champions. Those are the bare requirements for being in ranked..

On a general note though, I'd like to think Ranked should have higher standards than normal queue. Ranked is where people go to win, so in my opinion, there should be less tolerance for bad behavior.

I do agree with you on that. But then again trolling is kind of hard to find especially when the person trolling is doing it creatively!

With afk it would suck to get a hard punishment especially if the fault isn't on you. Now that's not to say if you know you have a bad connection going into your games, or you continue to play your games knowing you have a bad connection. You are intentionally taking a chance with your unstable connection just to play. With that I would say they deserve a harsher punishment.

With toxic people while it is chat that can be muted it shouldn't be an excuse, but I feel everyone should be treated equally!

Oblivion09Sep 9, 20161 votes

Exactly

GGumbySep 13, 20162 votes

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You have to remember that not everyone has the greatest Internet, let alone that ISP are always reliable. You have to put into account that maybe the person leaving the game isn't doing so intentionally. And while it's not an excuse (in my opinion) it's sadly what's going to happen when you play an online game!

Firstly, if you do not have reliable internet, competitive games in which your results affect the other 4 people on your team / 9 others overall are not for you. I understand that these issues happen, and that it is not always the person's fault, but if it is proven to be a continual habit of a player, they should be punished before their unreliability unjustifiably punishes others.

Secondly, you're addressing only disconnects, something I technically didn't address, and ignoring the trolls, the ragequitters, and the toxic players that I've actually made my main point here. If a player says "it's over gg" at 10 minutes in, and begins to do nothing but farm in the jungle for the next 20 minutes (and they weren't jungling) while trash talking in chat, the player disconnecting is not the issue. If the player dies three times mid lane and says "fuck this" in chat, followed shortly afterwards by "A summoner has disconnected," their internet is not the issue. These are the commonplace issues I'm addressing, and both of which I've had within my last 10 recent ranked games. This is where my issue lies, and this is where I feel Riot needs to do much more, especially on ranked.

SarutobiSep 13, 20161 votes

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Firstly, if you do not have reliable internet, competitive games in which your results affect the other 4 people on your team / 9 others overall are not for you. I understand that these issues happen, and that it is not always the person's fault, but if it is proven to be a continual habit of a player, they should be punished before their unreliability unjustifiably punishes others.

Secondly, you're addressing only disconnects, something I technically didn't address, and ignoring the trolls, the ragequitters, and the toxic players that I've actually made my main point here. If a player says "it's over gg" at 10 minutes in, and begins to do nothing but farm in the jungle for the next 20 minutes (and they weren't jungling) while trash talking in chat, the player disconnecting is not the issue. If the player dies three times mid lane and says "fuck this" in chat, followed shortly afterwards by "A summoner has disconnected," their internet is not the issue. These are the commonplace issues I'm addressing, and both of which I've had within my last 10 recent ranked games. This is where my issue lies, and this is where I feel Riot needs to do much more, especially on ranked.

So what can they do? The main reason why most ideas people put on these boards aren't put up is because it doesn't really help, or it would be too heavily abused. Yes these are issues that need to be address, and dealt with, but you overestimate what Riot can do, as well as the player base is just too overwhelming.

GGumbySep 18, 20161 votes

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So what can they do? The main reason why most ideas people put on these boards aren't put up is because it doesn't really help, or it would be too heavily abused. Yes these are issues that need to be address, and dealt with, but you overestimate what Riot can do, as well as the player base is just too overwhelming.

I feel it's that you're underestimating what can be done, and taking the toxic aspects of the community rather dismissively. You've legit just said "eh there's too many of em."

How could further punishing problem players possibly be heavily abused?

SarutobiSep 18, 20161 votes

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I feel it's that you're underestimating what can be done, and taking the toxic aspects of the community rather dismissively. You've legit just said "eh there's too many of em."

How could further punishing problem players possibly be heavily abused?

I mean there are too much, but they are doing as much as they can. Again i ask what can they do. its very limited of what they can do when anyone can just make a new account in such a short amount of time and continue to be toxic.

Nameless VoiceSep 18, 20161 votes

I agree completely.

Also, many of these kind of behaviours would be quite easy to detect. Someone says a message clearly indicating that they are now in troll mode, and then either disconnect or proceed to troll. The system should be able to detect a lot of these cases immediately and apply an instant warning (or punishment) of some kind to the player as soon as the game ends.

ItankyouSep 9, 20161 votes

I leave games when my support flames me, sits under tower, uses no abilities, and then feeds intentionally. Sorry but there is a time to afk. I'd rather get excercise then deal with whiny children.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do, and i've stopped caring. I'm not playing a 60 min game that we are going to lose. This could all be fixed if we could surrender at 10 mins.

KarunamonSep 9, 20162 votes

Personally I like the DOTA system here. Once a player has been marked AFK, the game is free for all to leave without penalty.

ItankyouSep 9, 20161 votes

that's awesome.

Oblivion09Sep 9, 20161 votes

That should be a thing in league. It would eliminate so many problems

Great MutaSep 9, 20161 votes

I'd like to see loot for people who don't AFK. You have x games without an AFK? You are eligible for a chest or key. It would encourage people not to AFK and would give someone something for not doing it.

KarunamonSep 9, 20161 votes

Ehhh.. that's a bit too much like rewarding for bare minimum behavior to me. Your reward for not AFKing is that you get to continue to play the game :)

Great MutaSep 9, 20161 votes

Kind of like "not being toxic"? There's rewards for that and it's still an issue.

Bans don't do anything. People will just make or buy a new account and anyone who plays seriously has another account already.

Oblivion09Sep 9, 20161 votes

I have been playing league ranked queue for two years now and i have ran into my fair share of trolls and afk's. I have taken breaks many times from this game and have always come with a positive outlook. Lately i have been running into more and more rage quitters and early game afk's after they die 1 or two times. The remake system does not resolve this and is very frustrating that those players choose to leave after the designated time to remake. In my last game i had and early game disconnection and after a minute my bot lane adc starts to whine to everyone about how "We lost", "Open Mid GG" and more negative talk. By doing so he started to type more than play and because of that he dies multiple times in a row. He then left the game after saying some very hateful speech to us and came back as the enemy team was destroying our nexus. This experience has really crushed my last bit of hope for league of legends because i feel that no one at Riot really cares about there low tier ranked divisions and they only really care about platinum and above. I like league of legends a lot and is a very fun and competitive game but when players are toxic, troll, and afk almost every 9/10 games you play, it starts to get to you. And when you report someone afterwards it doesn't feel like anything will really happen. That player will just queue up again and continue to spread their rain of hate on other players. There needs to be stricter ranked punishments and the team that is in charge of managing the toxicity in this game needs to be more aggressive with there decisions. Hopefully this will be read by someone at Riot and they will take into consideration what i said but i doubt it because they probably see me as another ranter. Hope you guys have a good games and stay positive, ill see you when the developers take action on their negative community.