Most annoying and least reportable form of greifing: Looking some1 up to ban their champ

Tahngarthor··2 votes·2,392 views

So you might like or play less common champion picks. Maybe you had a few bad games in your recenthistory with a champion. I've been seeing more and more cases where a team mate will ban the last champion you played because you lost games with it or something. And if you're wondering how one can tell they're doing this, when you like a champion that iis never banned or is not played commonly, usually because they're very specialized or just not performing the best in the meta at a given time, you played it in your last game (or within a few games), and it gets banned.

I recently had an experience where I got into champion select (3v3 ranked) after playing Asol in my last game which we lost because of a leaver (no conflict, they just left without warning); I greeted, said Let's have a good game guys! my last one wasn't so hot". a short time passes, and then one of them bans asol (which is rarely picked in 3v3, much less banned), I asked them why they did that, they rwouldnt answer and branded me toxic because they didn't like the only thing I said, apparently. I ended up dodging because I didn't want to play with people that would ban a teammate's possible pick (even though I wasn't intending to play it that game).

Did I do something terribly wrong here? Can you report someone for champ select issues (if the game is played)?

I see this on a regular basis, uncommon champs getting banned because a team mate had multiple games with that champ in their recent history. Is there no way to discourage this?

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Snowman Arc5 votes

Or maybe the guy just doesn't wanna play vs ASol for some reason. Not saying that your POV couldn't happen, but it's highly unlikely that it did happen. By the way, no offense, but if I op.gg someone and their most played champ is a Yasuo with 300 games and a 45% winrate, sorry friend, I'm banning that shit. Just my law of probability, I'm more likely to lose that game. So, no thanks.

Tahngarthor1 votes

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Or maybe the guy just doesn't wanna play vs ASol for some reason. Not saying that your POV couldn't happen, but it's highly unlikely that it did happen. By the way, no offense, but if I op.gg someone and their most played champ is a Yasuo with 300 games and a 45% winrate, sorry friend, I'm banning that shit. Just my law of probability, I'm more likely to lose that game. So, no thanks.

You're actually even more likely to lose by banning the champion they're likely to play since they'll be more likely to be toxic, tilt, or intentionally ruin the game to counter your intentional sabotage of them. And in other words, you're basically telling me you're the same kind of person that did what happened to me. (Note that I didn't even pre-pick, they just looked me up and assumed i might play that champion, and the only reason the game was lost is because someone disconnected and never came back)

You're part of the problem and what you're doing should be reportable. I mean seriously, if you ban somebody's hover it warns you not to do it. So obviously it's not seen as something that should be encouraged.

Snowman Arc2 votes

Or maybe it's just luck. I think you're reaching for something that's not there.

Tahngarthor1 votes

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Or maybe it's just luck. I think you're reaching for something that's not there.

no, it's not just luck. when I do play it, I get crap for it nearly every time in 3s (most people feel its not as good as in 5s), he's rarely ever picked,there is no reason to ban it whatsoever unless you're trying to aggrivate someone that you know plays it.

Urgot before his rework was pretty much the same lol.

Also, I'm not bronze 3. I'm a ranked 3s player and I was gold 5 last season and working my way towards that again now.

Snowman Arc1 votes

Which then brings me to my other point. If your winrate is low on your most played champ, then no one wants to play it with you. Like it or not, eventually, with high amounts of games, if your winrate is like 45%, it means that 1) the champion is just not viable or 2) you are just bad at the champion. In any case, picking that champion would probably result in a loss and it's more likely to win if you picked a stronger champion, even if you played it for the first time. Why is this concept so hard to understand?

EDIT: I just saw for op.gg. First of all, you are bronze 3, which explains a lot. Secondly, just stick to playing Taric, because it seems like you only find success with him. I would ban your KogMaw as well.

Tahngarthor1 votes

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Which then brings me to my other point. If your winrate is low on your most played champ, then no one wants to play it with you. Like it or not, eventually, with high amounts of games, if your winrate is like 45%, it means that 1) the champion is just not viable or 2) you are just bad at the champion. In any case, picking that champion would probably result in a loss and it's more likely to win if you picked a stronger champion, even if you played it for the first time. Why is this concept so hard to understand?

EDIT: I just saw for op.gg. First of all, you are bronze 3, which explains a lot. Secondly, just stick to playing Taric, because it seems like you only find success with him. I would ban your KogMaw as well.

Your opinion of another user's success rate with a particular champion is irrelevant. Banning their champion, in some misguided attempt to force them to learn something else, is only going to create discord and toxicity.

Also, I'm not bronze 3. I'm a ranked 3s player and I was gold 5 last season and working my way towards that again now. So wherever you're getting your info, it's wrong. I haven't even played all placements for 5s yet this season because I just don't care about it. I enjoy ranked 3s because I like the greater impact my own performance has on the outcome of a match with the smaller team size. (For the record, my main ch ampion is actually taric, which up to a few days ago I had a 61% win rate, so be a jerk all you want, i'm not the crap player you're making me out to be)

Finally, pulling rank and saying "oh, you're <insert bad rank here>, that explains a lot" only demonstrates how toxic you are, which is rather ironic here in the Player Behavior forum.

Snowman Arc1 votes

No one forces you to learn something new, but I don't want to play with your 40% winrate champion. Why is this so hard to understand?

Shukr4n2 votes

Yeah Find more champs to play Deal with bans Be mature and stop whine about this

Tahngarthor4 votes

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Yeah Find more champs to play Deal with bans Be mature and stop whine about this

This is one of the least helpful and most hypocritical responses ive seen in a while, as your response is not terribly mature. I'm posting a thread for discussion, not because I enjoy sarcastic, facetious or condescending comments

I can play many champions. I wasn't even necessarily intending to pick that champion- they banned it because they saw it in my history. Learning more champions doesn't change that. It's still a stupid thing to do no matter what champions you play.

Shukr4n2 votes

First of all there s no way u may accuse someone to look at your op.gg and state that he purposely ban your champ.

Thats not mature.

Second, game and riot allows bans. What u may,want to play could be a,counterpick for someone else in you team if they get to play against. Or they just hatecthat champ.

So u are smart?

Immature is whining about something that is accepted by majority as common feature because your personal toy gets ruined.

I now need you to twll me the definition of hypocrite in this contest because i fail to see it.

Lot of times i highlighted a champ and some teammate banned it. I dealt with it with no anger neither trolling.

One time i was second pick, first pick locked my highlighted to later SWITCH IT QITH HIS PREMADE LASTPICK. I was,really disappointed. I dealt with it.

Sorry if my being adult and mature about common sense offended your "full of proof and smart analytic" way of deal with things

Antelath1 votes

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So you might like or play less common champion picks. Maybe you had a few bad games in your recenthistory with a champion. I&#039;ve been seeing more and more cases where a team mate will ban the last champion you played because you lost games with it or something. And if you&#039;re wondering how one can tell they&#039;re doing this, when you like a champion that iis never banned or is not played commonly, usually because they&#039;re very specialized or just not performing the best in the meta at a given time, you played it in your last game (or within a few games), and it gets banned.

I recently had an experience where I got into champion select (3v3 ranked) after playing Asol in my last game which we lost because of a leaver (no conflict, they just left without warning); I greeted, said Let&#039;s have a good game guys! my last one wasn&#039;t so hot&quot;. a short time passes, and then one of them bans asol (which is rarely picked in 3v3, much less banned), I asked them why they did that, they rwouldnt answer and branded me toxic because they didn&#039;t like the only thing I said, apparently. I ended up dodging because I didn&#039;t want to play with people that would ban a teammate&#039;s possible pick (even though I wasn&#039;t intending to play it that game).

Did I do something terribly wrong here? Can you report someone for champ select issues (if the game is played)?

I see this on a regular basis, uncommon champs getting banned because a team mate had multiple games with that champ in their recent history. Is there no way to discourage this?

Since it isnt reportable, You can just Revenge ban, And if your looking to ruin their game, Just dont hover your champ and ban theirs and say, "Sorry i dont want to Play against him." HF! EDIT: People that say that Revenge Banning is Immature are Hypocritical Asshats that shouldnt be taken seriously LOL. [draven-pose]

NocturnalSheild2 votes

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Since it isnt reportable, You can just Revenge ban, And if your looking to ruin their game, Just dont hover your champ and ban theirs and say, "Sorry i dont want to Play against him." HF! EDIT: People that say that Revenge Banning is Immature are Hypocritical Asshats that shouldnt be taken seriously LOL. [draven-pose]

I always hover something hated like yasou and switch at the last second.

That way im immune the team banning.

Tahngarthor1 votes

First of all there s no way u may accuse someone to look at your op.gg and state that he purposely ban your champ.

Thats not mature.

I can and I will, because that's what happened. Their unwillingness to explain their ban and call me toxic only proves that it's the reason they took the ban, and amounts to an attempt at intentionally sabotaging someone's game experience. Also, its' not like the game doesn't warn you if you ban someone's Pick Intent that you're an arse and you're probably going to cause animosity. And I don't want to play a match where I know the deck is stacked against me (as in, my team is prejudging me even though I hardly said anything)

Since it isnt reportable, You can just Revenge ban, And if your looking to ruin their game, Just dont hover your champ and ban theirs and say, "Sorry i dont want to Play against him."

As much as I hate this, i don't think the solution is to also be an arse myself.

Tahngarthor1 votes

Because this isn't about what you want, its about what the player wants. If you don't like the champions they like to play then you can dodge. Otherwise, you're just sabotaging yourself by forcing someone else to do something they'll perform even less than "40%" with.

If their best champion has a win rate that isn't appealing to you, then how is banning it going to help you? They're only going to do worse with something else.

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