Opinion: ranked is insanely unbalanced

woodvsmurph·5/2/2018, 9:30:14 PM·4 votes·3,243 views

I got a 2 week span of 90% unwinnable games last season where bot lane (sometimes mid or jg as well) would give enemy laner over 10 kills in laning phase alone while I was being 2v1 camped the entire first 15 min of the game. Meanwhile my bot lane had a whopping 1-3 kills to their name while getting tons of help from our jg.

This past fall, same thing.

And now it is happening again. People that boosted and unable to just farm on a RANGED champ 2v2 should be demoted immediately to a much lower elo where they belong. They are either clearly: 1. boosted a full tier (ex: gold 5 playing in plat 5) or 2. intentionally throwing the game (win-trading). Last time I checked - both of these are supposed to be ILLEGAL. Yet I'm seeing these people in 80% or more of my games the past few weeks - with 95% of the time, all of them being on my team. That's a bit skewed statistics for rng. Thus, some major improvements to matchmaking are called for.

If a lane is being 2v1 or even 3v1 camped, the rest of the team should be more than capable of either getting objectives elsewhere and probably kills too, or capable of counter-ganking with a half decent effort and timing to make it a 2v3, 2v2, or 3v3 and let the better players win. But this fails to happen almost every single time. And not once or twice in a game... literally the entire game.

To take an example from a recent game: For the 4th game straight, I am beating my lane opponent 1v1, enemy jg decides to camp for 15+ min straight. Ok, fine whatever. I can deal with this and go even most games... but my team needs to get stuff done on rest of map since they are 4v3. That means jg GANKING and getting OBJECTIVES - not afk farming and failing to build any kind of cs lead vs enemy jg. That means laners going at least even - not feeding 2v2 and 1v1 with 0 threat of enemy jg ganking for first 15+ min of the game. 1/7/0 kda in a 2v2 is not acceptable - especially when you have the stronger 2v2 laning champs. Ok, so I'm playing safe and hugging tower, not needlessly fighting away from tower or getting chunked for a ton of hp for no reason. Conqueror jax and a master yi jg that prevents me from leaving tower to soak xp further up in lane, so I wait by tower. I'm tower dove 6+ times in laning phase. Every time, I trade kills and get some cs, but I can't kill both jax and yi by myself. I ask many times for counter-ganks. Even when my jg just finished red and is at krugs (right by my tower) and see's yi sitting in tri-brush, rather than help with the next inevitable tower dive on me that's coming in about 5 sec, he farms krugs. Jax escapes tower dive with 20%hp, yi dies. If jg came, that's an easy 2 for 1 in our favor and shutdown gold, but obviously krugs are worth more.

Bot tells me I'm getting shit on 1v1 cuz I play too agro. Excuse me? I'm sitting under my own tower, asking for counter-ganks. That is not playing agro. You're upset jax is fed? Maybe support me in telling jg to stop afk farming and counter-gank or snowball elsewhere on map instead of telling me to stop "whining" and "being a baby".

What were my alternative options to hugging top tower and trying to make the best of it? I can go mid and soak xp but get little else done; no kill pressure there. I can go bot to help my losing lane and the result (from numerous past experiences and the reactions bot gave this game) will be:

  1. bot flames/spam pings me to leave
  2. I can engage and get them kills, they will then piss away their lead/advantage I give them
  3. bot will base and go top to 2v2 enemy top and jg - and feed them much more than I did at 5/5/1 in a 1v2 for 15+ min
  4. jax will tp bot and my adc and sup will bail - leaving me 1v3 even if we could easily win the 3v3
  5. bot will actually be better than I expected, snag 2 kills and help push outer tower; however, jax and yi will meanwhile have gotten outer top for first tower gold and half of inner tower; they will then roam obviously mid and kill my jg and/or mid with obvious roam even though I spam ping to warn them well in advance

Thus, my alternate options are pretty shitty and still involve my team losing more than we would gain. If this were higher elo with better skilled teammates... I'd be able to make some alternate plays with better results... but it's not. If I had my opponents on my team - swap jg and/or bot lane, I'd be able to make those plays at THIS ELO and come out ahead. But instead, I get people who refuse to take any action. And even if you clearly spell out what you need to do and why, they refuse to listen.

Laning ends, I try to make some team plays and thanks to my proactive interaction, we actually win a few fights because I'm there before the full enemy team; saving teammates with peeling and setting up some low hp enemies who are stunned in place for my team to finish off. Of course none of my contributions are recognized by anyone. When I could be afk farming side lane but instead tp to save a teammate from certain death, that's my teammate making a great escape; not my saving them lol. When I flash stun an out of position enemy carry and pop 2/3 their hp for my teammates to finish them off while I'm tanking 4 enemies, that's my team making a great play - not me lol. And when my team gets deleted 4 for 0 in a 4v4 while I'm trying to stop splitpushing jax who has 2 level advantage on me, that's my fault they died lol. When I'm out of position one time cuz I disengaged a lost fight before I die and the enemy kills our inhib and pushes for the win, I'm trying to recall by raptors, but the enemy sup spots me and chases me, I'm apparently the guy who values raptors over our base lol. Yes, clearly I'm being selfish there trying to recall so I can heal and defend, but having to deal with enemy sup interrupting my recall. I never even attacked the raptor camp; I wasn't trying to farm at cost of our base. Speaking of that though... how about our jg valuing krugs all game over... helping a teammate who's getting camped? Now THAT is a crime shame. Especially when... you easily win the 2v2 and could have snowballed hard if he just delays farming 1 jg camp to counter-gank or pressure somewhere on the map.

I clearly lost the game for us by going 5/5/1 in lane while 1v2 camped lol. I clearly never helped the team when I have second highest assists on our team lol. I'm clearly farming raptors at cost of our base when I never even hit them and I'm recalling lol. Yes, flame me the entire game with the amount of pressure I had to deal with while getting 0 help from my jg and my teammates all losing or even feeding their lanes despite never getting ganked. Clearly I threw this game for our team lol.

If this were a rare occurrence, I'd understand; everyone gets crappy teams once in awhile. But 80% of games with teammates like this? That's unacceptable. And it's not the fact I'm 1v2 nearly every game. If that were all I had to deal with, I'd be ok. It's teammates sitting on their butts doing nothing to punish the 1v2. It's teammates flaming me for every little thing and telling me to stfu (for asking for one counter-gank pls) while they are doing far worse 1v1 or 2v2 than I am doing while being camped. It's teammates forcing the same horrible fights where they facecheck into everything instead of use their free wards... and then die and blame me. It's teammates refusing to cooperate with anyone and running it down lane cuz they're 0/2/0 and the game is as good as over in their eyes - no matter how fed their teammates might be. It's the fact that it's nearly every damn game. And if I manage to win 1v2? A fed enemy mid happens to magically occur too... and leave me 1v3 while my jg camps for a feeding mid with 0 kill pressure and bot lane bleeds out towers. And I'm supposed to take this bullshit and be polite to teammates who:

  1. refuse to help me
  2. refuse to punish enemy roams
  3. refuse to adjust their play so they stop feeding 1v1 or 2v2
  4. flame me for going even while camped; which is far better than what they are managing although I say nothing insulting to them - just "hug tower and farm pls" "if you play safe and stop 2v2 dying, we can win teamfights" or something like that
  5. refuse to cooperate when I go out of my way to help them and spell it out beforehand - giving them plenty of time to prepare for a flank or tp gank play
  6. refuse to adjust their play; facechecking everything and never warding, running around solo or duo squishy champs vs fed enemy assassins and stealth champs that can easily 1-shot them, refuse to group and defend a tower... costing us objectives and towers and kills
  7. flame my build
  8. tell me I'm trash, noob, idiot, garbage, git gud, you're hardstuck silver/bronze because..., selfish - never group (despite the fact we only get picks or win fights off my engages), selfish (despite pulling 2 people to side lane and still having pressure to give my team time to 4v3 catch up if they would just cooperate and stop splitting, afk farming, dying when they could have easy 4v3) while I'm dealing with 2 of the strongest players on the enemy team... by myself (forgive me for trying to keep 2 fed enemies away from my squishy teammates; apparently I'm a horrible stupid player for doing this).

Yeah, you go deal with this in 80% of your matches - being denied the chance to actually play the game (since you are 1v2 or 1v3 every damn game) - while having such teammates consistently. Then post YOUR chat log Riot. Do this for 2 weeks straight, 2+ games per day and let's see you stay positive and friendly. And no, you cannot punish any of your teammates for their behavior - they all get a free pass to excuse their intentional feeding, their uncooperative behavior, and their flaming of you. Then, if you have a spotless record, come talk to me about player behavior. Cuz I'm fucking fed up with this bullshit. I've said it for over a year how much you need to fix matchmaking and take action against intentional feeders - especially the ones who flame teammates that are doing far better than them despite being screwed over by their own team the entire game. Fix your shit.

8 Comments

TheProfezzor5/2/2018, 10:02:53 PM2 votes

Didn’t read all but I agree. Matchmaking is wildly inconsistent.

y0r1ck5/2/2018, 9:36:14 PM1 votes

Holy shit............. mother fucking god damn..... upvoted you hoping you'll find someone with more patience than me

Hellmaximus15/2/2018, 10:34:53 PM1 votes

I think the problem is in your champion pool and lanes you prefer over the actual balance aspect of ranked.

Although I've notice a few boosted adc and support that got to silver/gold/platinum through subpar skill but they had a decent or above average adc or support that carried them.

D4M2X05/2/2018, 10:40:26 PM1 votes

ranked ia based on luck at any elo unless you abuse certain shit like the most faceroll DPS champs or by simply going premade. ive seen players drop from diamond last season and are gold now, i dropped from master to plat in 10 days, pro players are dropping from chal to D1. you can be brainless but just aslong as you pick a certain champ or go premade you can achieve high elo now.

want to know what happens when you dont go premade? you get a fucking autofilled support. if my jungler doesnt know what to do and botlane is losing, i blame the jungler for not camping bot and say "bot lost go next". you dont get a chance to play whats meant to be a game and for some weird reason people dont surrender and enjoy playing through certain, slow losses. i like close games and the occasional stomp win.