I'm a bronze player and I want to make this VERY CLEAR.

Hextech OwI·Feb 4, 2018·9 votes·841 views

Having a higher rank than mine doesn't make you in any way superior to me, socially speaking.

I am a human being aswell, not just some random thing you meet online. I can participate to discussions and make them progress, in a good way too. I have the right to give my advice, and despite being a low rank player, I still deserve to be respected, listened to and corrected in a non harsh way, as long as I have constructed thoughts, am mature and am willing to make a discussion progress further. This applies everywhere, on the boards or in game.

I've been witnessing this "higher rank than you=socially superior to you" a lot more than usual lately and this seriously bothers me.

20 Comments

MordiusFeb 4, 20186 votes

X Champion is OP, and Nerf X Champion are why this exists. The Bronze Meta is much different than Challenger meta.

I can play Blitzcrank all the way up to gold, but at some point, players are going to learn how to play around him. That doesn't make blitzcrank OP, He is simply hard to deal with when you are under skilled. And chances are if you can play around blitzcrank, you probably aren't bronze.

So in this sense, rank does matter when you are making opinionated statements about the game.

Hextech OwIFeb 4, 20181 votes

I totally agree with you.

But if someone misjudges a champion in this kind of circumstances, it is better in my opinion to calmly explain "why x is y and therefore z is thing" rather than saying "you're bronze so you're bad, just git gud".

ShaolinToiletFeb 4, 20181 votes

I just want to point out that there's lots of times when blitzcrank is meta in challenger and he's always a viable pick across all elos

my top is badFeb 4, 20185 votes

A challenger player is superior to a bronze player. As is a silver, gold, platinum, diamond or master, simple as that.

Hextech OwIFeb 4, 20181 votes

If a player is higher rank than a bronze player, it is logical that this player is better at the game than a bronze.

However, may he be silver, gold, plat, diamond, master or challenger, a player doesn't have the right to belittle another bronze one more than any other.

Tell me, would you like to face a diamond+ player that blames you for the only reason that you are "only" platinum?

Budget PokimaneFeb 4, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=my top is bad,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Lcf3qFRQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-04T04:40:29.220+0000)

A challenger player is superior to a bronze player. As is a silver, gold, platinum, diamond or master, simple as that.

"Superior" isn't the word I'd use. Regardless of rank, everyone should be treated the same. Many people don't know that silver 4 is the average rank of all ranked players so actually many people in bronze could be considered average.

HavokDashFeb 4, 20182 votes

As a support, gameplay asside there is a general attitude of superiority towards support. I mean one of the nicknames given to support role is "lane slave" Supports are badmouthed, degraded, dismissed. No matter what supports do, its wrong. If I sacrifice myself to save an adc, I am labeled an Inter/feeder If I DONT sacrifice myself, then I am "trolling" and "dont know my role" (Often the excuse is "you are support, your job is to die so the adc can get away) Supports can bust their ass and still get to hear "omg my support is so useless" even after they help thier own adc get a double/triple/quadra.

So yeah, there is a smugness among players. I have said alot that these players go into matches with an attitude of "I'm Too good for this team" I often hear "cant carry this trash team". Why is that said? because the player sees themselves ABOVE thier teammates. Not part of the team, but superior. Like they are royalty getting saddled with a team of "peasants" in their own eyes.

Thats why alot of matches fail. because everyone is too busy acting like their "shit dont stink". They spend more time telling teammates how 'trash" they are than actually playing.

Pika FoxFeb 4, 20181 votes

Depends. You can be bronze because youre mechanical skill is shit. Doesnt mean you dont know how to play or how to optimally play, your game mechanics are just bad.

Dr DogFeb 4, 20181 votes

the only people that dont think this way are silver 5s with their heads up their asses

Hextech OwIFeb 4, 20181 votes

I've seen plats and diamond players with this kind of behavior. Trust me, it doesn't just stop at silver 5.

iBubsterFeb 4, 20181 votes

I agree :D, but I also think that there are just so many silver 5's who got 3 wins and placed silver 5 in season 7. They then proceed to declare themselves as gods against people that had 3 wins but placed bronze, and had to work their way out. Also, no offense, but support mains do this the most too.

EL HAMSTEROFeb 4, 20181 votes

not that i believe this in any way but i have heard a theory that there is something wrong with the brains of bronze players.

again i dont believe this at all, but i just heard this rumor. so if its true then there are certain social implications.

Hextech OwIFeb 4, 20181 votes

A theory saying that being bronze implies a brain malfunction?

What kind of moron writes that... Where did you even find that? And still, if it was "true" how would that change the respect you deserve from your peers?

EL HAMSTEROFeb 4, 20181 votes

its just something i heard somewhere. i dont believe that there is anything wrong with a bronze players brain personally. i just think you have a different way of thinking about stuff.

BUT IF it was true that bronze players are all brain damaged then you could still like them and be friends with them, but you arent going to respect the ideas of a brain damaged person the same way you will respect the ideas of a person who's brain is functioning at a high level.

Pika FoxFeb 4, 20181 votes

Agreed. I dont care if a challenger player says something or does something, they arent right just because their rank is challenger. If someone makes an argument or a statement, you argue based on facts. Not "Well, challenger player said this"

Only time rank ever really means anything is when someone says something is situations like someone saying something is UP but you can point to challenger players and show that that thing is very strong atm.

dKiWiFeb 4, 20181 votes

u will notice that alot of high elo ppl posting here dont even mention their rank. e.g. someone who got banned 14 days for not wanting to surrender

regardless fair enough I am low elo myself but it is quite a dangerous mentality because it will probably make you get stuck in bronze longer than you should be.

Being treated negatively isn't exclusive to league and some derogatory comments are common in other social settings need it be about your body mass, test marks or otherwise. As long as it doesn't extend to harassment its better to just treat it as positive feedback.

That said when higher elo people do speak nonsense then it is important to sift that out using your common sense. Otherwise might be better to take it as a learning experience

ActivatingEMPFeb 4, 20181 votes

This is why I always wear my Bronze icon from S6, because I remember how awfully people treat you, regardless of how much experience you have with the game via reading.

Once I got a better ping I got to gold the next season.