Respect your damn tanks.

Melledoneus··36 votes·1,939 views

Don't blame them. If they left lane without feeding their laner, then it's obviously not their fault you're 0/8. It's YOUR damn fault their top laner is fed, and although they have the ability to protect you, it's still your responsibility to position yourself right. Why the sudden interest in this issue? Well, let me give you an example. A very recent one.


I just had a game as Shen where I went up against Lulu top. As hellish as the lane was, I left it with a positive KDA and I had ulted several times to get everybody else kills. I worked hard to keep the lane under control, and I kept my turret up for a surprisingly long time considering the enemy laner had been doing nothing but pushing.

Soon enough, this Lulu had a build that looked something like item 3124item 3115item 3146item 3091item 1301item 3053.

Now, there is no way in hell I can stop that monstrosity from pushing. Especially since item 3512 is disabled. Soon enough, the hiatus began.

Maokai "Is this your first time playing Shen? I haven't seen you land your passive all game."

I decided to simply respond that yes, I had been playing Shen correctly. I have been for the past two years, thank you very much. You're also welcome for those 2 kills I gave you off my top laner, which you decided to invest into a item 1410 and item 3116 rather than, I dunno, a frozen heart. But whatever, don't want to start anything. Let's just ignore the vitriol in that comment and continue.

Morgana "Shen, you're just bad. You let your laner get fed, your lane is a mess, you ult in really late, and you built completely wrong."

I'm sorry, Miss "I like to 1v1 the enemy Vayne and give her 6 kills." I worked so damn hard to keep your lane from feeding the enemy Vayne, and I got your ADC fed. I also defended you when you kept feeding Vayne while defending turret, stating that you were the only one defending bot lane and that was an issue we should handle. The least you could do is acknowledge that I secured you guys a dragon and 8 kills for your ADC at the expense of tons of farm. But whatever, I'll just roll with it. I've learned that not responding to such claims is usually the best option in such a tense situation.

By the end of the game, it devolved to this: Maokai "gg, Lulu you're not even good. Shen is just really bad." Morgana "Shen, stop blaming your lack of skill on not having Zz'rot portal." (Let me note that I simply made a passing remark about how the lack of Zz'rot portal made it difficult to slow down Lulu's pushing, and nothing more.)

Really? When we were winning it was "gj Shen" but the moment things looked south everybody laid the blame on me. It's sad, really. They threw a winning game and it becomes the tank's fault.


The moral of this rant? Show your tanks some god damn respect. We forego all damage items and the glory in order to peel for you, we gank you so we can get you fed. We dedicate our existence to getting pummeled and even dying so you can live. We lose out on farming power, pushing power, and overall fun in order to win the game. You guys get to watch your DPS get higher, all we do is get hit harder. And with all the nerfs to tanks that Riot has been shipping, both direct and indirect, you better be god damn grateful to those players who are brave enough to be a tank in the top lane. Engaging YOUR fights. Peeling for YOU.

Seriously. I don't care whether you guys agree or disagree with this. I'm just here to tell you that it's nice to get some gratitude and respect once in a while, instead of the blame. It's not the tank's fault you mispositioned, or tried to fight the enemy ADC as a support, or wandered into unwarded jungle. It's not the tank's fault you tunnel visioned and chased an enemy to get trapped by the rest of their team, or can't manage objectives, or can't even forego your own ego in order to build something that's beneficial to the team.

#I'm done. Here's my rant, tried and true. Respect your tanks. Respect them.

39 Comments

Sahn Uzal10 votes

I don't know what you are talking about, when I ult towards botlane as Sion, getting my ADC a free kill on their support and then helping my jungler do Dragon, it's OBVIOUSLY my fault my ADC decides to dive the enemie ADC :^) summoner 31

Melledoneus8 votes

"Hold on, I can tank two turret shots before I die. Meaning I can totally take out that Vayne who's under turret."

Faustavian3 votes

Sion stands under turret attempting to let the adc safely aquire the kill and pinging crazily Vayne walks away Sion starts to walk away at 1/2 health Sion dies to enemy team as they arrived Team: Why would you do that, gg a feeding Sion

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

The unfortunate & too frequent truth.

Shonjl8 votes

Amen. Also Lol on Morg feeding Vayne. Morg murders Vayne due to hard CC and sustain and can ignore her stun/knockback. If Morg was good she would have easily stopped Vayne everytime if not killed her by herself.

Melledoneus2 votes

That Vayne was 1/6 when she left lane. Our Lucian did a good job keeping her down. But Morgana single-handedly brought her back.

Shonjl7 votes

Bad Morg which is funny since she is pretty beginner friendly. She is similar to Blitz, you can be a shitty Blitz but land the occasional grab and be useful, Morg can land the occasional snare and still be useful but the good ones land a ton of them or hit the right targets.

If that Morg didn't wanna fight, she woulda snared and walked away every time.

Melledoneus1 votes

Not to mention she was under turret every time.

Mecha MaIphite7 votes

No, respect their tanks.

Gotta love it when our Yasuo decides to 1v1 their Rammus.

HayRoss1 votes

Or when people think they can 1v1 the full health Taric as a squishy AD character

Melledoneus1 votes

If you're Fiora...

HayRoss2 votes

That's because Fiora, not because Taric

Bodkins Odds1 votes

And even then, if he baits out her W she's fucked.

Ayame Isaki7 votes

It has nothing to do with tanks; it has to do with players looking for scapegoat for losing and/or their own bad play.

I got told to uninstall the other day by a 0/15 warwick in ARAM (he ended up getting a few kills eventually) and his equally bad Jax friend (when I had the most gold and second best KDA). I've been complained at for going 25/2 as Akali and carrying because the ADC believed it was his job to carry and I should have given him the kills (He had like 2 assists, somehow I should give him kills for fights he wasn't even in).

Unfortunately it seems that a great many people these days are self-entitled and truly believe they are never the cause of their own failure as it must be someone else's fault (and this extends beyond League of Legends; this is a trend in society as a whole).

The best you can do is mute/ignore them and play your best. If they get especially toxic or derogatory just mute and report. They aren't worth being upset about.

Very Epic Guy3 votes

It's really annoying, isn't it? Whenever a teamfight is lost, it's the tank's fault, apparently.

Once, as Sion, I was against a Nasus top. I got flamed so often for not being able to teleport down at a moments notice to help our bot lane which was getting camped by our jungler anyways...

Then they were surprised when Nasus got farmed and was a huge threat. Got blamed for that, too. Surrendered that game ASAP

INoble KnightI3 votes

Yeah I know the feeling. Tank is my most played class and it sucks building straight brick tank and still getting melted and flamed. It's like look I can CC them but yall have to do something! (also shenpai teach me your ways)

On another note Singed is a hilarious tank to play

Melledoneus4 votes

Pretty sure Singed has a troll face underneath that mask.

Also, I can teach you to master the art of Shenpai. Girls with flimsy swirds and men with petty guns cannot stop you with his techniques. Which is why I'm... unranked...

INoble KnightI2 votes

Singed : item 3151 item 3116 item 3068 item 3001 item 1308 with a fitting 6th item is totally a serious tank build (I really want to get good with Shen)

Melledoneus3 votes

Hey, feel free to add me on Melledoneus. I'm not the best Shen ever, but I have decent experience with him and could help you out. Just PM or leave me a note reminding me on who you are (something like "that guy who wants to learn Shen" is good enough) so we can do some training. Or... practice. God, this sounds like DBZ now.

GamblerOfLives2 votes

Whenever people bitch about someone, it's simply because they want to get carried:)

Only Play Darius2 votes

And this is why I no longer play tanks in ranked

#LONGNasusLIVEDarius THEGarenJUGGERNAUTSIllaoi

RisenDarkKnight2 votes

Any tips on the new shen?

Melledoneus1 votes

Well, laning is much like the old Shen, except it has much more potential. Basically, managing minion waves to have a significant advantage in numbers. If your opponent is pushing fast, then you can freeze the wave. Should the opponent be poke-oriented, hang back and wait for them to blow their major cooldown before going in. For example, Teemo's blind. Most ranged opponents in the top lane will trump Shen, but careful play and jungler ganks can win you a lane.

As for actual melee matchups, you want to sometimes let the opponent come to you. Say the enemy is a Fiora. Fiora will be farming, and you'll have a vital up. Bait her into dashing for it, then punish her with Q autos. If she ripostes, perfect, then E in and punish harder. Shen is all about positioning, dancing around your opponent with your Q passive, and winning trades due to being inherently tanky with shields.

One other thing to keep in mind is that most matchups don't see much help with Doran's shield. Sometimes it's just more beneficial to go ruby crystal instead, against lanes like Nautilus or Maokai that would generally be the case. But if you don't know what to start, think about whether or not the enemy has lots of single target spells and/or abilities, and whether or not Doran's would be best. If you're not sure still, stick with Doran's.

And last but not least, your W. Only activate it when your opponent starts to commit. They will try to bait out your W if they're smart, but if they so dare to engage on you to do so, don't panic. Make sure they're on top of you before you dash away from your sword, then pull your passive. Remember that while W is active your trade is pretty much decided in your favor. Once your W is down, it's best to back away if your opponent hasn't already. Be wary of opponents' movements and try to bully them while they are going for cannon minions or farm in general.

If there's anything you wonder about, don't hesitate to ask. I could write a book on how to play the new Shen.

Apollogy2 votes

I know the feeling... With season 6, I started picking up tank junglers so that our team always has that option because so few people play anyone who can engage/pick/peel/protect/etc... on top lane. Supports are hit or miss, and even if it is a tanky support, they'll be limited in gold and it won't be enough to compare to say, a malphite with a whole lane's worth of gold or maybe some ganks and jungle farm...

But, it's nice being able to save people and decide when our team engages.

KitsuneTrickster2 votes

The feels man, they always blame us top laners or jgs

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I don't play top lane that often, but my champ of choice for the roll is Nautilus, and I will usually try to pick up a RoA at some point (and if possible, an Abyssal Scepter). You are incredibly tanky, able to CC people for days, hold your own against bruisers and other tanks, and you can practically one shot squishies with your ult and hook. Best feeling in the world.

Melledoneus1 votes

I found that Nautilus can prove to be a challenge for even the best Shen players. His passive denies Shen's taunt, his W counters Shen's Q, and his other abilities bypass Shen's W, allowing Nautilus to punish Shen.

I've considered getting into that.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I remember facing a Shen a few times before his rework when he would attempt to taunt me under my turret and then pull me out. It was always hilarious when I could just root him in the range and he had to take at least one shot XD

Melledoneus2 votes

{quoted} he would attempt to taunt me under my turret and then pull me out

Bah. Amateurs. They never realize that it doesn't work like that, given the delayed nature of Shen's taunt.

But they have spirit! And I like that.

Sahn Uzal2 votes

I do not really like the damagy tank builds... item 3027 item 3068 item 3001 But this is just too damn good >_> summoner 31

Fjel1 votes

I feel ya, man! Amumu

TheUltSpiderman1 votes

noob shen is this your first time? tank without noobness is a carry (jugg) tank with lack of skill is a dummy big bot

Melledoneus1 votes

110k+ mastery points on Shen, over 500 games total.

Come at me, bruh.

Mhihnj1 votes

Don't worry man i support you.

Melledoneus2 votes

Ooh, never had a top lane support.

This should be interesting.summoner 31

TheUltSpiderman1 votes

no respect for noobs ONLY THE WEAKS NEED BALANCED

Vybornak1 votes

I totally agree with this :) im used to have same situations... sometimes u just die to save team but in the and if u loos and u got bad KDA ... u was that "bad one" even u did rly good and without you they would be lost much more. :/

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I agree entirely! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

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