5 years ago, if you told someone to drink bleach they'd ask you to provide the cup and the mixed beverage. Now a days, if you tell someone a way to improve their gameplay they go on a tantrum and report you.
What happened?
BALDG1VEN BOOMER6 votesNothing really, League mostly caters towards casual gamers who'd like to have fun and not play a game with someone who's using crude humour. Because of this, the use of this kind of humour kind of lost it's place within the internet.
Shuyin1781 votesCrude humor makes games more enjoyable because it shows people aren't a bunch of crybaby robots.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votesCrude humour can also cross the line to how someone may feel talking to you.
GankedByWindows5 votesNothing happened. You're playing a game with a huge age range. Both the generation you're referring to and 8 year olds play this game, and you have no way of telling the difference. 8 year olds generally don't respond well to being told to kill themselves.
Hammermancer2 votesModern 8 year olds, When I was 8 I was playing starcraft and telling people to kill themselves a whole bunch, But you merely adopted the toxicity; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see polite gamers t until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but TILTING! The trolls betray you, because they belong to me! [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
DrCyanide1 votesWhen I was 8 I was playing starcraft and telling people to kill themselves a whole bunch
As someone who was playing Starcraft around the same time, I highly doubt that. You almost never saw behavior like that.
Yes, I get that you're trying to make a joke, but the point remains that chat has gotten worse since it was back then.
Hammermancer1 votesyou just weren't in the right chats dude
Seriously in some games there were race wars, and i don't mean the in game races, I mean I've witnessed a race war between Polish and Brazilians take place in a capital city in Tibia and between Americans and Koreans in Dark Eden
Pandemic Punch5 votes???? I played online games hardcore since Age of Empires and Yahoo checkers. It was worse than League in every game I played since there was no penalty for being toxic. Back then though, I could insult back without worrying about getting myself banned so it wasn't as tilting in that regard :)
Soraka is SO HOT2 votesYahoo checkers? :O
ModPeriscope1 votesTough crowd. Here's an up vote for the batman fan in all of us.
hexarte5 votesI'd like to comment, from the perspective of someone formerly prone to suicidal thinking and tendency, that telling someone to "go kill themselves" might be that exact result. And in many US states, most notably New York, it is considered cyber harassment, punishable by law with a hefty fine and jail time. Therefore, you are committing a crime, if the person you're telling this to lives in New York. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not go to prison for a comment in an online game. But even more so, I'd rather not be the reason someone chose to commit suicide.
And if you're an adult telling this to an 8-year-old, my gosh, you will get no sympathy from the media. It'd be all over the news everywhere. You'd never be able to get a job again, vandalism, and a whole slew of things with that much damage to your reputation. So please, never ever tell anyone to "go kill themselves." It is a crime in some parts of the world.
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Hammermancer3 votesculture changed, people have less focus on having a thick skin and want to have less toxic interactions, which isnt a bad thing but it means dudes like you and me are now misfits
KVbqbFsC8e1 votesAnd as always, the correct answer here is downvoted.
General Esdeath 3 votesI don't think you were playing online games 5 years ago...
Shuyin1781 votesI've played online games ever since Halo: Combat Evolved on PC many years ago.
So yeah, well over 5 years for me my friend.
General Esdeath 2 votesAnd in those 5 years you never matured? Damn...
Subdue3 votesWhich of these games you used to play placed you in a situation where you are forced to play along side a group 4 strangers with no ability to boot the bad out of your games, and a penalty if you try to leave yourself?
Don't get me wrong, that's a simple necessity in League of Legends, and there's no way around it short of making all games premade 5s only. But that's the nature of the beast.
Also, having played Starcraft myself, there was nothing anywhere remotely close to what we see in League today, precisely for the reason listed above. Most games were 1v1, or if not, were premade with a host that could boot people out.
The Watatar2 votesI would say that people got tired with people thinking they could treat others however they wanted, and also the game developers. That is my guess why the ban system is so much harsher these days.
I think that if people would have acted much more proper back in the days. You would not have the same problems with online gaming we got today. (In relevance to reports, etc)
Pandemic Punch2 votesYou are correct. Social Justice Warriors and outrage culture happened.
Granted, I was never the one to throw the insults until they threw them my way first. But at least I could insult back without worrying about my account getting banned.
Dragfin2 votes5 years ago, if you told someone to drink bleach they'd ask you to provide the cup and the mixed beverage. Now a days, if you tell someone a way to improve their gameplay they go on a tantrum and report you.
What happened?
Current generation was raised to try instead of do. Most lack the discipline and integrity to actually deal with the real world. Most were told how special they were and when they hit the real word they don't understand why Mommy and Daddy lied to them and they don't know how to react to reality. They continue to behave in the same manner because they don't know any better. Most don't understand how to succeed so they use the excuse, "I just want to have fun", to justify failing at something as simple as a game. Tells alot about their real life if you ask me. Successful people succeed everywhere in anything they do and they don't make excuses. It's human nature. Society raised this soft generation because they thought it was a better way without thinking about the negative effects. I doubt it can be fixed now. It's easier to fail so why would this useless generation want to change that? They would actually have to work at it. Kudos to those of you that have.
hexarte4 votesCurrent generation was raised to try instead of do. Most lack the discipline and integrity to actually deal with the real world. Most were told how special they were and when they hit the real word they don't understand why Mommy and Daddy lied to them and they don't know how to react to reality. They continue to behave in the same manner because they don't know any better. Most don't understand how to succeed so they use the excuse, "I just want to have fun", to justify failing at something as simple as a game. Tells alot about their real life if you ask me. Successful people succeed everywhere in anything they do and they don't make excuses. It's human nature. Society raised this soft generation because they thought it was a better way without thinking about the negative effects. I doubt it can be fixed now. It's easier to fail so why would this useless generation want to change that? They would actually have to work at it. Kudos to those of you that have.
So it's ok to commit the crime of Cyber Harassment? Because in certain parts of the United States, it is a crime punishable by law.
Dragfin1 votesSo it's ok to commit the crime of Cyber Harassment? Because in certain parts of the United States, it is a crime punishable by law.
That's a whole different argument. Not once did I talk about anything to do with that but behavior like I explained sure the hell would be fuel for it because not everyone is passive in their behavior, but like I said that is a whole different argument
hexarte1 votesCyber harassment: is the use of Information and Communications Technology (ICT) to harass, control, manipulate or habitually disparage a child, adult, business or group without a direct or implied threat of physical harm.
There is a difference between playful banter between competitors and just plain verbal abuse.
As an adult, by law you're held to a higher standard than an eight-year-old.
Dragfin1 votesCyber harassment: is the use of Information and Communications Technology (ICT) to harass, control, manipulate or habitually disparage a child, adult, business or group without a direct or implied threat of physical harm.
There is a difference between playful banter between competitors and just plain verbal abuse.
As an adult, by law you're held to a higher standard than an eight-year-old.
As I previously said, I never said anything about that. It is a whole different argument. Look in the mirror because you are doing exactly that. So please, take your own advice.
hexarte1 votesI'm asking a question. And yes I'm human, thank you for noticing. I make mistakes. I'm truly sorry for any form of harassment you think I caused.
SubToxic1011 votesWhat a snowflake. Awwww no someone said to kill yourself online. HoLy CrAp CyBer CrIMe AlErT. Those same laws were passed in those countries by snowflakes such as yourself. You are the type of person who ruins league because you can't handle it when some anonymous person gives you an offhand comment. I have played a lot of games and in every game more toxicity leads to improvement unless ur a snowflake. The entire word "toxic" has lost its meaning in this community. You can say something lie dude stop feeding and be labeled as "toxic" when you say something like "Ur trash" WHICH IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH since the guy continues to feed. What is wrong with calling someone who plays BAD "Bad"? If online comments on your gameplay trigger people like you so much then theres a simple solution for all of you. PRESS THE MUTE problem solved if you can't see what they say they won't trigger you into a report button smashing attack.
Silent Gravity2 votesSuccessful people succeed everywhere in anything they do and they don't make excuses.
You've played chess at least once, yes? Why isn't your name on the top 10 ranked chess players? You have to SUCCEED! Don't let the fact that chess is just a game dim your ambition!
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You've played chess at least once, yes? Why isn't your name on the top 10 ranked chess players? You have to SUCCEED! Don't let the fact that chess is just a game dim your ambition!
It's not what I choose to be successful at because maybe I understand that I'm not good at it and don't want to subject others to my bad play? Same applies at anything and all comes down to discipline, integrity and the respect for others. It's mostly about personal responsibility. Which most of the current generation are lacking, as I already stated.
Imperial Pandaa2 votesExcept the average age of gamers is still around 30. Meaning the same people who maybe didn't care 5 years ago have matured and seen the stuff that happens from saying those things.
I'm not a sjw but I am someone who does say questionable thing only around friends or people who I think will be okay with it. I usually mess with my friend in comms. We give each other crap and have for years, since MW2. Even making jokes about suicide, rape, and general asshole jokes. Well, that friend has been depressed and I won't joke with him about that because he might do it. I stopped making rape jokes because I learned about some other friends who experienced it.
So they might not be pansies because they don't share your humor. They may just have grown up and matured. I'm not condemning anyone who has that humor, and you shouldn't condemn for the lack of it.
Futalicious2 votesYears ago it was fun messing around in small online shooter communities saying stuff like that but now with how big online gaming got everyone is a random. It's not fun to tell people you don't know to go drink bleach or to hang themselves. I still banter like that with friends but in games with people I don't know I would never
BestJhinUniverse1 votesThe decline of Western society reached terminal velocity. The war on masculinity. The stressing of words doing more harm than violence.
hexarte1 votes"As a woman, I take offense to that." Is what I could say. But "War on Masculinity?" What? I'm sorry, but feminism is about lifting up rights to be equal to its masculine counterpart. We're not trying to take you down to our level in rights, but make it equal so we'd be on an equal standing. Regardless of sexuality, race, or religion.
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BestJhinUniverse1 votes"As a woman, I take offense to that." Is what I could say. But "War on Masculinity?" What? I'm sorry, but feminism is about lifting up rights to be equal to its masculine counterpart. We're not trying to take you down to our level in rights, but make it equal so we'd be on an equal standing. Regardless of sexuality, race, or religion.
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Feminism "was" about gaining an equal footing, women got that in Western society plus a few bonus perks that men don't receive now which is fine. This era of feminism is far less noble than it's origin desiring even more perks while taking what it can from men. Hence memes like "I want equal rights until I can get special treatment." So you're right in a sense that feminists aren't trying to take men down to thier level, they are trying to push them lower. Especially men from white ethnicities.
hexarte1 votesWell, I hope I didn't come across that way towards you. I don't want anyone to be pushed down. I just know that it isn't truly equal yet. It's actually more expensive for me to be a woman in the United States. The pay gap between men and women is still at about 22% as of 2016. That was last year. And some services and products are more expensive(pads and tampons) because they're woman's products. And on average, I pay about $1,351 annually for the same services and products as men do.
BestJhinUniverse1 votesWell, I hope I didn't come across that way towards you. I don't want anyone to be pushed down. I just know that it isn't truly equal yet. It's actually more expensive for me to be a woman in the United States. The pay gap between men and women is still at about 22% as of 2016. That was last year. And some services and products are more expensive(pads and tampons) because they're woman's products. And on average, I pay about $1,351 annually for the same services and products as men do.
Seeing the term feminist in this day and age is a red flag, like seeing a boat of Somalian pirates speeding up to your Freighter. You might not be advocating for what I said but others are.
Nothing will be perfectly 50/50 ever since we are two different puzzle pieces and each side excels typically at different things. We are at a good spot for now, hence why people move to Western parts. We do have blemishes that need to be addressed.
The pay gap.... Where do you get your information regarding that? What factors do you take into the equation?
As for the feminine hygiene products, I'm sorry for the cost women have to endure for RNGing the carrier and nurturer of life class in the game if life.
hexarte1 votesI pay more for shirts, jeans, dry cleaning, shampoo, deodorant, conditioner, a haircut, even mortgages. Car salesmen always give men a better first price than a woman.
As for the pay gap, I just used the information here.
I'm tired unfortunately, work almost killed me yesterday.
BestJhinUniverse1 votesI pay more for shirts, jeans, dry cleaning, shampoo, deodorant, conditioner, a haircut, even mortgages. Car salesmen always give men a better first price than a woman.
As for the pay gap, I just used the information here.
I'm tired unfortunately, work almost killed me yesterday.
Fancy fashion and materials. Fancier hair styling typically. Scumbag banks and car dealers always gotta test the waters. (Ty greed...)
Expected the wage gap article to magically leave out why woman make less, but it covered it.
Guess you better start interesting women into more of those higher paying fields that men typically care for more (the ones qualified, no affirmative action bs) and have them not start families since women typically choose to work less off that and other reasons.
hexarte1 votesI'm sorry that you feel as such. And what you say is true about the pay gap.
I was just trying to end this topic because we're getting away from the purpose of this actual discussion. Player behavior. I am now ending this verbatim.
woodvsmurph1 votesPeople can't take criticism. They don't want to hear that they might not be doing something correctly or how to improve. They assume they know best. They don't look beyond their own lane/jg and see what everyone else is ACTUALLY having to deal with in their lanes/jg.
Lane x for instance goes 1/3/0 but is up 30 cs and has been repeat ganked every time they leave tower and been roamed on with no mia by a fed laner from another lane. They can still win 1v1 despite being so heavily focused. Lane y fed their lane opponent 1v1. Due to jungle help though, they are 3/5/1. They are playing super passively at all the wrong times, never warding, and hiding under tower refusing to push even when their lane opponent is sitting in lane x for a full min waiting for said player to push out. Lane y calls lane x toxic trash because lane x told lane y to get off their butt and push out when their lane opponent is sitting in lane x for a full minute while lane y is doing nothing. So the lane x that has had to deal with either 1v2 or 1v3 all game (assuming solo lane) or else 2v3 or 2v4 all game (assuming lane x is bot lane) is considered trash because they have a lower kda. Despite the fact that they are actually more skilled than their opponent, that they've actually set up their teammates for great counter-gank opportunities which could have given them a positive kda, and despite the fact that they are STILL even after having been camped for 15+ minutes by people they didn't feed. Meanwhile lane y - which has been given a 2v1 or a 3v2 for 15+ min cannot win their lane, refuse to push and consequently don't punish their lane opponent(s) for roaming to other lanes, cost their team towers (in their lane and other lanes), prevent their teammates from punishing their lane opponents, and cost map objectives (baron, drag, jungle camps). Somehow because they are 3/5/1 though, most people see this as much better than the 1/3/0 laner. And that someone with 0.33 kda would lecture someone with 0.8 kda about what they should be doing is inconceivable and toxic - no matter how nicely it is done or how valid their point.
People are lazy, arrogant, blind, and selfish. This has only gotten worse over the years - and I'm not saying this because I'm older. To give an example outside of league...
When I was younger, little kids sat in the front of the bus. We didn't talk to the older kids or look at them funny unless we wanted to get the crap beat out of us. When I was middle aged kid, stuff still held true. When I got to be that older kid sitting in the back of the bus, the little kid could turn around and cuss the crap out of anyone and if an older kid put him in his place, the older kid got punished and was a horrible person for doing that to some "innocent" little kid. Hell a friend of mine got sick of this one kid and convinced him to powderize some smarties and sniff them. It really stung his nose, but he did it a second time. Next day, my friend gets detention for it while the kid got nothing for having cursed repeatedly and talked shit to everyone. Instead of society teaching the little punk a lesson, it punishes the people who try to teach people to have some damn respect for others and that people who don't show respect need to be taught it - sometimes painfully. Don't know why society keeps heading further in this direction, but my guess is when all these kids become adults and experience THEIR CHILDREN acting towards them the way they acted towards others (and had society pretend such blind selfish rudeness was ok) they will be like "hell no". Then it will swing the other direction.
Jorencice1 votesLol except that's never how it happens.
It's usually A gets ganked once. Then B says "yo fuck off and kys if you keep dieing".
I've never once seen someone actually trying to help. They THINK they are hekping.
Blutseuche1 votesCall us Pansies or whatever.
I enjoy not being banned and receiving rewards :^)
Youre the kind of person that gets banned 2 weeks long for saying "Kys" several times and then complains about it, because he thought it was funny and just a joke.
The Chosen Goy1 votesI think it's just the League community, because of how mainstream it's become, now "normal" people play games too. Back in the day, the demographic of gamers was much smaller and they grew to find that shit funny because of the reaction you'd get out of the normal people for saying some crazy offensive shit. Other games that aren't as popular are still intact for the most part tho, and you still see the good ol' autistic sense of humour
Squidwards House1 votesif my friend tells me to drink bleach... i ask him for the cup. if a random tells me to drink bleach. i laugh about him cause he has no friends, mute and report him :D
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