So I was in a game just now where our Udyr REFUSED to gank mid (me) and bot just because me and the support died once each, so he considered us "shit" players and decided to just let us lose lane, we won the match but still, would that be considered griefing?
Jo0o5 votesNot unless he verbally harassed you.
There's no required strategy for junglers. A common practice is to focus on your winning lanes, and leave losing lanes to their own devices. One death seems like it shouldn't be enough to call you "losing" and abandon you, but hey, can't punish the guy for making a bad strategic call.
DedLyte1 votesDid he call you a shit player? Or did he just not come to the lane?
Balderdash10001 votesHe shouldn't have called you shit players, but when you gank a losing lane there's a lot of extra risks involved that can make it a bad idea. Usually the best gank is to snowball a lane that's going even. In the end, one of the junglers jobs with ganks is to snowball a team mate into a late game carry. If he doesn't think you can carry he's better off going where he thinks someone can get things done.
Glîtchy1 votesHe shouldn't have called you shit players, but when you gank a losing lane there's a lot of extra risks involved that can make it a bad idea. Usually the best gank is to snowball a lane that's going even. In the end, one of the junglers jobs with ganks is to snowball a team mate into a late game carry. If he doesn't think you can carry he's better off going where he thinks someone can get things done.
Wait, so 1 death is considered losing? seems legit
Jo0o2 votesIt certainly can be.
Say you gave up first blood to... an Illaoi or a Darius. A strong bruiser champ with sustain. They got your 400g, plus extra farm while you're dead. On your first back, you got a longsword and a refillable potion, plus maybe boots or a red ward. On theirs, they got a Phage.
Should your jungler gank top next time your opponent is pushed up? These are champs noted for their 2v1 potential, especially if they've hit level 6. The jungler knows that you're numerically disadvantaged in a fight due to the early gold lead, and probably a less-skilled player than your lane opponent. This means that your jungler COULD attempt to help you with a gank, but is taking a very real risk of feeding 1-2 more kills to your lane opponent, ESPECIALLY if the enemy jungler is nearby. Is that a good risk to take? Arguably not. Giving up a double kill, or a single kill plus the enemy escaping, puts your team very far behind.
Glîtchy1 votesIt certainly can be.
Say you gave up first blood to... an Illaoi or a Darius. A strong bruiser champ with sustain. They got your 400g, plus extra farm while you're dead. On your first back, you got a longsword and a refillable potion, plus maybe boots or a red ward. On theirs, they got a Phage.
Should your jungler gank top next time your opponent is pushed up? These are champs noted for their 2v1 potential, especially if they've hit level 6. The jungler knows that you're numerically disadvantaged in a fight due to the early gold lead, and probably a less-skilled player than your lane opponent. This means that your jungler COULD attempt to help you with a gank, but is taking a very real risk of feeding 1-2 more kills to your lane opponent, ESPECIALLY if the enemy jungler is nearby. Is that a good risk to take? Arguably not. Giving up a double kill, or a single kill plus the enemy escaping, puts your team very far behind.
So even ganking a Syndra who's oom and has no summs left would make it pointless?
Jo0o2 votesI can't possibly comment on the specific reasoning of your jungler. All I can do is present the basic logic that he was likely operating off of.