Vent: There need to be stronger punishments for people who ragequit

Karunamon··6 votes·868 views

You know what really stinks? Turning a losing (but edging on the cusp of a turnaround - behind on gold, but most of the enemy team dead with a close teamfight going on our favor) game into a definitely lost game because some selfish jerk decided they didn't have to play anymore.

Having to wait 20 minutes for the next game is not even sort of a deterrent.

19 Comments

Friendly Ram3 votes

I'd love harsher punishments for dodging arams so i don't need to sit through 20+ minutes to get into a game that probably won't last that long. Leaving games hasn't been as much of a problem as it used to be.

Duct Tape Owns2 votes

TBH (although im a biased toxic player). I think People afk leaving are worse for game than people that rage. And punishment is way less severe (rather get 5 games of low priority queue than perma banned) makes me think next time I get mad at team I'd rather afk than rage at them and play game out then get reported.

proud2bPL2 votes

Fak that.

I'll give my best for the period of time I (me, myself) see fit, after that I'm giving up. If you expect me to continue wasting my time after I decide that this game is going nowhere, you're loosing your mind. I don't owe you anything, let alone trying to win solo 1v9 for 40 minutes counting.

Fak this trash, usless, crying community.

Jo0o1 votes

I wish it were possible.

A brutal punishment for somebody who loses power mid-game would be unfortunate, however.

Karunamon1 votes

It's kind of amazing how many people's power and internet connection quality is tied to the second number in their KDA. Besides, if you're getting leaverbustered, you have a pattern of doing it.

Jo0o1 votes

I don't completely follow your sarcasm, but surely you can accept that it's difficult for a system to differentiate somebody rage-quitting versus having a legitimate connection problem. You can't just go off of KDA, because what's stopping somebody from having a disconnect WHILE losing?

Karunamon1 votes

Not when it happens regularly. If someone is leaving enough to trigger leaverbuster, then something is seriously wrong and they need to resolve that problem before inflicting their bad computer / internet on strangers.

I also notice a lot more disconnects when people are behind, rather than when they're ahead.

mig mig warwick1 votes

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I don't completely follow your sarcasm, but surely you can accept that it's difficult for a system to differentiate somebody rage-quitting versus having a legitimate connection problem. You can't just go off of KDA, because what's stopping somebody from having a disconnect WHILE losing?

ummm ... i dont know how they can tell the difference ... maybe by the fact that the people who rage quit and afk on purpase have a habit of doing it and have done in the past ??? i mean not to state the obvious but even the leaver buster right now bans the people who do it frequently so your statement is wrong ... THEy can tell the difference and it is not difficult .. whats difficult is busting ur aSsss for a week to get to pro and then get a ragequiter in the promo .. thats difficult

scazzman1 votes

i agree there should be harsher punishments for ACTIVE nonparticipation. IE. typing bot not playing. wandering map avoiding leaverbuster. ect. but just afk the system is fine

Strilter1 votes

NONSENSE why would riot want to give a penalty to those valued members of our community... FYI the 20 minute que timer is why when I do RQ I dance and then turn on my macro so my champ isn't booted and automatically picked up by leaver buster

mig mig warwick1 votes

amen

WarlockDD1 votes

the only problem is when u leave the game for other reasons your punishment is a lot worse. In a game I once had a guy lose connection for him to reconnect 10 minutes later because his power died. I wouldn't consider that an unholy action because it's a natural occurrence. Does it suck we lost a teammate for 10 minutes, yes it does. Was it his fault, no. Another example was i once joined a game and after champ select my client would not respond, meaning i was afk from the game. I tried again to play and my client did the same thing. These 2 consistent "AFKs" resulted in me getting a 15 minute Que for 5 games. If we were to increase these punishments i would have got a greater punishment for things that i could not control.

I think a solution is we can keep the extra queue for AFK and leave busters. Make it so the people who left the game get an automatic Lose for that game and a slight decrease in honor (if ranked game maybe a level reduction or hwat ever it is called when a few more loses will result in a rank drop), PLUS I think any gold gained from the champ who AFKed (total gold collected to that point) should be distributed to the other players. This would make it somewhat up to the remaining players for there loss of a teammate by giving them an extra amount of gold.

Karunamon1 votes

I tried again to play and my client did the same thing. These 2 consistent "AFKs" resulted in me getting a 15 minute Que for 5 games. If we were to increase these punishments i would have got a greater punishment for things that i could not control.

I feel ya, I've recently been having the client freeze up immediately after team select ends and have to reboot before it will work again (I just sent a bugsplat for this about half an hour ago if anyone from Riot sees this!),

..but they have this machine learning magic. If someone continually disconnects when they're 0/11/1, they're probably ragequitting, not having tech issues. Like I said below, I find it hilarious how many people's power, computer, and internet connection condition is tied to their in-game performance.

wizardhunter1 votes

I just want the punishment system to be more fair for what you do. I never feed/int/afk yet I said kys kys twice at a start of a match in rage because my support had smite and smited my blue buff on purpose. The rest of the game I was insulted, had my buffs stolen purposely by support, and kept being told to go afk yet I did not insult him back. But because I got angry at the start, I got a 2 week ban, just the same as he most likely did even though I was 1/10 as toxic. I could understand a chat ban or 24 hour ban to tell me to cool off but 2 weeks?... I am honestly scared when I play LOL sometimes because I go from playing Rust - extremely toxic game - to league and its hard to not instantly type " s t f u " and " k y s " when I am insulted by my own team. When my ban is done I am just going to find a way to not allow myself to type and I hope I won't have any more issues.

Karunamon1 votes

I could understand a chat ban or 24 hour ban to tell me to cool off but 2 weeks?

You told your support to commit suicide. There is no justification you can come up with that'll ever make that acceptable. I don't care what they did - it's zero tolerance for a good reason.

If you're serious about disabling chat, I wrote a howto a while back: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ghKQoeu8-how-to-unbind-your-enter-key-to-prevent-inadvertent-toxicity

ZestyChan1 votes

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You told your support to commit suicide. There is no justification you can come up with that'll ever make that acceptable. I don't care what they did - it's zero tolerance for a good reason.

If you're serious about disabling chat, I wrote a howto a while back: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ghKQoeu8-how-to-unbind-your-enter-key-to-prevent-inadvertent-toxicity

I think you missed the point, what he was saying is 2 weeks seems a little excessive. I understand you are the type of person who wants every punishment to be as harsh as possible, but not everyone is perfect. If saying "kys" to someone after being taunted is bad, give us a better way to vent our frustration against a teammate who is harassing us.

wizardhunter1 votes

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You told your support to commit suicide. There is no justification you can come up with that'll ever make that acceptable. I don't care what they did - it's zero tolerance for a good reason.

If you're serious about disabling chat, I wrote a howto a while back: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ghKQoeu8-how-to-unbind-your-enter-key-to-prevent-inadvertent-toxicity

I saw your post and planned to use it when I get my account back :P Many other games could care less what their community says as long as they don't spam, but Riot doesn't approve so that is why I plan to not allow myself to type. That term has become very common and has lost its meaning to many people online and usually just means "your irritating" and people just ignore it, but not to everyone so I understand why Riot is becoming strict on the term. I feel like they should just not allow people to type "k y s" and things like racial slurs at all if they do not want summoners to ever use it.

Whenever I accidentally steal my jungler's first buff and they become aggressive with me I still apologize and just take the insults because I know i just slowed their and potentially our teams entire game progression down. When someone intentionally takes your first buff, it hurts even more. I am not saying what i did was right but I am only human and can't help but say rude things when people try to ruin my time. "K y s" honestly means " your irrating" to me and I see it frequently on league & almost every other game so it just popped out of me. I know I am suppose to "shut up and play" but its SO hard to not say anything when you know the next 30 mins are going to be painful.

I honestly wish I had just disconnected from the game right there and then w/o typing because I would have only gotten a leave buster. (Rioter told me this, it honestly hurts knowing that) I know its hard to balance that but stillll it sucks. I also know stricter punishments are more effective because most people have alt accounts but I don't use alt accounts and anytime my account gets in trouble I flip out and take it seriously because I care about my account and just want to play the game.

Also just a personal note, I could care less what people say in online games, actions are stronger than words to me and I would rather have my yasuo telling me to "k y s" while still trying his best and not griefing my next 30 mins. That is why I can never afk/int/grief purposefully. I also might just be immune to " sh** talking* because I play so much ranked.

AJStarhiker1 votes

They used to have time bans for chronic leaving. IIRC, it went 1, 3, 7, 14 days. What they found was people cycled accounts while the other(s) were under punishment.

This system is better, since players can't dodge the restriction via smurfs and alt accounts they don't care about.

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