If I don't notice that I'm queing into a co-op vs ai game with 4 bots, can I leave the game?

OneFreeSkin··1 votes·497 views

I didnt notice and I don't want a lower priority queue strike, because technically im not ruining the game for anyone! This happens at least 1 in 5 games! I dodge most but fuck how many times in a row do i have to wait 15 minutes to play because riot gives 0 fucks about bots and scripts unless your diamond?

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Silent Gravity2 votes

It is against Riot's policy to allow leaving any game for any reason. You will be hit with Leaverbuster penalties if you do it too often. This is because queuing up is not an agreement with the other players, but it is an agreement with Riot that you will play the full duration of the game, try to win, and not fall afoul of any other regulation (like harassing people).

On a different note, leaving those games may count you with a loss, causing a reduction in MMR. The only other players that also lose games against the AI are bots. This will cause you to encounter more bots as you will be matchmade together.

Bots are banned in waves to reduce iteration.

Also, banning a bot when it's level 1 will not harm the bot maker. They'll just make another account. If bots are banned 6 months after they're sold, then the buyers will be less likely to buy another, hurting the bot maker's bottom line. If the bot is banned after it hits level 30 and has farmed a decent amount of IP, before it's sold, then the bot maker is out the time and electricity.

OneFreeSkin2 votes

So basically what your saying is "sorry man but your fucked, deal with the bots because Riot see's the inconvenience to the little guy as unimportant." Bullshit that the best a multi billion dollar company can do for me is tell me to grit my teeth and bear with it, but k.

Karunamon1 votes

If the bot is banned after it hits level 30 and has farmed a decent amount of IP, before it's sold, then the bot maker is out the time and electricity.

If the bot is banned after it hits level 30, that's over 150+ games that have been ruined.

Unacceptable.

Silent Gravity1 votes

Ruined and Unacceptable are both interesting word choices.

Ruined would indicate that those 150+ games held little-no value for the other 4*150= 600 participants. On the contrary, I think that botted accounts improve the 150+ games' usefulness. Many games you will be matched with a tilted or trolling player that puts your team behind. Learning to keep calm and persevere in making what impact you can for your team is a very important lesson.

The best way for any individual to improve their skills in any setting is to engage in activities that are challenging to their current skill level. Having 4 botted accounts in a game is pretty close to playing PvP, and as such it is a useful tool for improving.

Unacceptable would indicate that there are other options available that are acceptable.

Banning more quickly would create even more bots, because the bot makers would need more bots active at any one time to meet the demand from purchasers*. Banning more often would also increase iteration. Then we'd eventually end up with bot accounts that are impossible for Riot to catch at all.

Unless you have a different solution in mind, "Unacceptable" seems to be the wrong word to use.

(*see any research that tracks birthrate and survival rate correlation)

Karunamon1 votes

On the contrary, I think that botted accounts improve the 150+ games' usefulness. Many games you will be matched with a tilted or trolling player that puts your team behind.

The problem is that the bots are crappy players - theyre basically int machines. If there was a bot that played well, nobody would be complaining as much. Instead, you're both down a guy and have 7-10 kills fed to the enemy team. Almost fun in PvAI, game-ruining everywhere else.

That is the polar opposite of useful.

Unacceptable would indicate that there are other options available that are acceptable.

  • Recaptcha before entering queue
  • Recaptcha challenges after a certain level of poor performance (like going 0/10/0) with no items bought
  • Requiring any purchase on record before allowing ranked play

All of these would barely register for legitimate players, but cause a huge annoyance spike for the botters.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

It could ruin someones game who is playing coop vs ai.

It is a matchmade mode. Here is an idea. Actually look at what you are queueing for.

GentlemanGhidora1 votes

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It could ruin someones game who is playing coop vs ai.

It is a matchmade mode. Here is an idea. Actually look at what you are queueing for.

Talking about purposely queuing against the AI but not realizing that all other 4 "players" on YOUR team are bots and not real people.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Not everyone in Vs AI is a bot. Could have 4 others in the game.

GentlemanGhidora1 votes

Yeah, I know that. That is not the topic the OP was talking about and what I was clarifying. They weren't suggesting you should be able to leave ANY vs AI game. They were saying that they got caught offguard one game in which they were led to believe it was not yet another match where they were the only real player.

I really don't think you're even trying to read what is actually being said here because you're just reacting to ASSUMED comments.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Then I think I am still missing something.

The way I am reading it is he queued for a match, and somehow misclicked to the point they got into a coop vs Ai.

Yes, I see in this instance they believe their team mates were bots. What if they are wrong and they are just non typing bad/learning players? What if its people trying to play off a LPQ in bots and give no crap?

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