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Can we please insta-ban these stupid assholes?

woodvsmurph··1 votes·1,566 views

I'm fed the fuck up (hence my language) with assholes that have 0 clue how to play the game and only care about themselves. Last game... renkton vs fiora. I run grasp for better scaling and to be our frontline for teamfights - knowing i will have to build for TEAM and not for 1v1. So shyv jg ends up camping my lane - any time i push... she's there - wards or no wards. Any time I'm half hp? They bring enemy leblanc and 3v1 tower dive me. I'm 1/3/0 and fiora is 0/3/0. I'm going even while stuck 1v2 or 1v3 for about 15 min straight. I ask bot lane - since they've been getting 3v2 all this time - to please stop afk farming by their tower and push an objective. There's legit no reason shyv should be able to leave top for 40 sec, go bot, and get every dragon with the lead our bot has. There's no reason they should lose tower bot and afk farm at their inner tower while enemy is double or triple teaming rest of map. Blitz tells me this is perfectly ok of them the apply 0 map pressure and feed every time they 3v3 or 4v4 (later in the game). No it's not. Don't tell me to stfu when I ask you nicely to push an objective since you have 3v2 or 4v3 or 4v2. Pressure the map and punish them sending multiple people to fight ONE of your people.

It's not okay for a fed lane to feed their asses off and apply zero map pressure, get no towers, and lose all objectives on their side of the map. Group, rotate, do whatever you need to do to pressure the map and USE your lead to team's advantage. If you're flaming me for dying cuz fiora, shyv, and fed leblanc 3v1 tower dive and kill me while team sits on their asses not pressuring anything, how much more do I have the right to flame you - being FED - and getting yourselves aced 4v4 or 4v3? Stupid assholes like that blitz should be insta-banned for stupidity and toxicity.

They're trash players - can't even go even when handed a massive advantage. They're toxic - flaming a guy for dying 1v3 under his tower because his retreat path is cut off and he's gotta just try to trade kills and get as much cs as possible... and for telling said player to stfu when he nicely asks team to pls push a tower when they have number advantage. They're stupid because they don't realize the MASSIVE advantages they have or how much their teammate(s) are getting fucked over. If a teammate is put in a shitty situation of 1v2 or 1v3 the entire laning phase... the rest of the team logically has advantage which must be exploited to punish the fact that the enemy is investing 3 people to shut down/keep in check ONE teammate. That is simple logic and - especially if explicitly stated - should be easily understood regardless of elo. The fact that blitz can't understand something so simple and can even flame and tell me to stfu for saying something like that proves how utterly stupid he was.

So in short... stupid toxic assholes like that blitz should be immediately banned for the negativity they bring to league.

If there were some truth to what he argued I'd be less offended... because truth is truth even if it hurts. But there is literally nothing redeeming in his toxic stupidity.[sg-ahri-3]

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Chermorg10 votes

If you want to be matched with players of higher skill levels, increase your own skill.

TheZacStreetBoys5 votes

summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11

woodvsmurph1 votes

So when I have better macro than anyone on either team CONSISTENTLY, I win or go even while camped and counter-picked REGULARLY, and I can 1v1 anyone in most games... git gud.

When I can know when to teamfight and when to split to maximize map pressure, when I can 1v3 late game where I've fallen off and should lose 1v1 to some enemies, but I can win a 1v2 and waste enemy team's time 1v3 w/ minimal vision and keep enemies baiting into thinking they're gonna collapse on me a get a pick (while 2 are in fog of war... so it's purely my prediction and intuition; vid review confirms me to be correct and not just a one time thing... consistently) so that my team can have easy 4v2 that even they shouldn't be able to screw up despite being behind... and we don't win 5v5 because they're behind... git gud.

When I'm given a fair shake toplane, I end up 1v2 destroying the enemy jg and toplaner by myself by level 6. I make tp plays to screw up my opponents when they 3 man bot lane... saving my bot lane, netting multiple kills, and getting us first tower and dragon. And lose maybe 2 minion waves top and still can go back there and destroy my lane opponent only to have bot feed away a massive advantage that I give them despite having a 3v2 the rest of the laning phase from our jg camping them... I need to git gud.

Lol... you are funny.

Literally when Dyrus got camped in lcs and it was a meme about how much he was camped and how often he died... I get camped HARDER more often and die less than he did. Streamers will complain about how hard they get camped when I face that level of focus from 2-3 enemies IN LANING PHASE on a regular basis. And I die less often than they do in most cases. And I'd be FINE with it if my team would ever exploit this pressure being focused on me by winning elsewhere. But you can't do much 1v3 vs a toplaner, graves jg, and a fed leblanc for example (that you didn't feed). So if jg is inting off stupid invades or sitting afk or camping for a 1/9/0 bot duo and mid refuses to push in lane and/or counter-roam... not much you can do there. You're going to lose because your team doesn't see the opportunities right in front of their faces even when you spell it out in chat and with pings. FYI... there's plat players who can't carry teams like that... when camped not even as hard as some of my games if their team doesn't go even or win off the pressure they pull to their lane. So ok... I just have to be master tier or higher and I'll be able to climb out of silver... THAT makes sense lol. Git gud my ass.

Chermorg1 votes

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So when I have better macro than anyone on either team CONSISTENTLY, I win or go even while camped and counter-picked REGULARLY, and I can 1v1 anyone in most games... git gud.

I didn't know you're suddenly the expert in League. 1v1 means nothing, because it's a team game. You win with your team - not by winning lane. This is your problem - you refuse to help your team and all you focus on is yourself.

I didn't even read the rest of it, because it's just you confirming what I just said - you always focus on what your score is, your deaths, your lane, but you never try to play with your team because you can always blame someone else for it.

News flash, if you deserve to climb, you'll climb. I climbed from Bronze 5 up to silver 5 in a week at the beginning of the season - because I was placed way below my skill because I was duoing most of my placements with a friend relatively new to League.

woodvsmurph1 votes

This is where you really suck as an advisor and don't deserve your job... you don't bother reading and LISTENING because you don't like someone else's stance and won't actually consider their argument. Unlike YOU... I actually READ and CONSIDER what others say... even if they're being inflammatory.

Here's where YOU are wrong.

  1. Pulling enemy jg pressure consistently and/or pressure from another lane while going even or WINNING despite that is helping your team massively. Listen to any high elo player. Look at how analysts praised Flame and Impact last year for absorbing so much pressure for their team and not falling behind. They are literally giving their team 3v2 2v1 or 4v3 pressure elsewhere on the map. Pressure that means TOWERS, DRAGONS, JUNGLE CAMP STEALS to put the enemy jg behind in farm. That IS HELPING your TEAM. IF they actually act on the fact that there's 2 people or more camping one teammate of theirs.

  2. Splitpushing and pulling 3 people to bot lane? That makes it 100% easy for a team that's too far behind to teamfight to group 4 and 4v2 either stall at tower (if they're hopelessly behind) or push towers 4v2 and get kills to catch up. If you're team isn't far behind... it means easy ability to force baron fight where you can 4v2 or 4v3 snag some kills and start building a massive lead. That's the opposite of being selfish. That's saying.. you know what guys. I'm gonna trade kills and die so YOU can get ahead.

  3. I teamfight - better than the vast majority of players at my elo. Largely because - unlike them - I don't run in and blow everything to kill whomever I see w/o any vision control of an area and consideration of where their team might be. I take fights where it's advantageous for my team. Hence why... when my teammates actually listen to me... even though we're often behind we can get a 4 for 1 teamfight victory and objective(s) afterwards. And since I'm generally having to frontline for my team... the person dying is quite often ME. When I die but we win a fight we had no business winning, I'm the first guy to say gj and cheer my team on. If I were the selfish person you claim I am.. I'd be waiting for our squishy janna support to start off the fight and I'd be screaming at the team for letting me die. But the opposite is true.

  4. Does a selfish player tp bot level 2 when his opponent can freeze the wave and screw him over in order to save his bot duo from a cheese gank? Well if I'm the selfish player you claim I am... then yes - that's what a selfish player would do.

  5. Does a selfish player save their tp for a potential teamfight and walk back to lane knowing they will miss half a minion wave? No. But I do.

  6. Does a selfish player save tp for the dragon spawning in 40 sec when he could tp top and get a giant 30+ cs wave before basing and show up late to dragon fight because he'll have to heal and buy before going to dragon? Or would he ping his mid or adc who's just shopped to grab the top wave while he bases to set up for dragon? He'd tp top and take all the cs for himself. Me? I ping mid/adc to snag top wave and get it pushing before they rotate to drag... while I base and save tp for a play at dragon.

  7. Does a selfish player facecheck for his team when there's no option except to facecheck? Nope. Do I do this for my squishier teammates when it's somewhere we must facecheck? Yeah - so long as they don't rush in there suicidally before I can get there.

  8. Does a selfish player sometimes overstay to try to protect their teammate when they need to retreat because their teammate isn't backing off quite as quickly as they should? No, but I do. Not because I'm not smart enough to leave (i'm the one pinging we need to back off and not get caught 3v5 when we're all low hp and low mana), but because I value a decent teammate and want them to KNOW that.

  9. Does a selfish teammate look to gift their midlaner the enemy blue buff that they can steal off their own pressure - through no advantage earned by mid? No, but I do.

  10. Does a selfish player give some enemy red buffs to their adc even when they could really use it and possibly make better use of it than their adc? No, but I do.

Please... enlighten me oh wise one on how this is being selfish.

I am the FIRST person to help my team if it is at all logical. If you're 2 aa's from dead and can't 1v1 enemy jg and I'm being shoved in by an opponent with ignite and level advantage... I'm not going to typically run in and die to try saving you. I realize there is no saving you and save my flash an hp bar for some other time when it might actually matter. Usually. When you get invaded 1.5 min later and I'm in a position to rotate w/o dying 1v1 if my laner follows... I'm the first guy to be there helping you. Even when it's 2v3, I'll stay if I think we can win or stay long enough for you to escape w/o giving them a kill in addition to the buff they are trying to steal.

When I shove my opponent in but he's too healthy to safely tower dive since the enemy jg is mia, I'm the guy that pings you away from potentially suicidal tower dive and suggests we ward up enemy jg and steal any camps instead... having your back the whole time. Hmmm... sounding real selfish aren't I? And no... I'm not making these scenarios up. Just check out some of my vids on YouTube if you don't believe. They can speak for themselves. Whatever team gives me... I give back 10 fold whenever possible. You leave me on an island to 1v3 and you all feed? Why should I leave my island to help you in a suicidal play? You take advantage of me being double teamed? I'll make sure they NEED to double team me while you have the best kda game of your life... even if my kda looks like shit and half our team doesn't realize their amazing game is due to 0 pressure on them from enemy top and jg. You give me a lead? I'll take that lead and shut down the fed enemy bot lane in a way that helps MY bot lane in the process - not just helping me.

Because the thing is... my micro might suck - hence why I play easier champs - but my macro is closer to challenger level than some people in higher elo than me. I see plays others don't. I know when to rotate to defend a tower and when that's a lost cause and trading UP (getting more elsewhere on the map) is a better call. Whether I'm the one losing a tower and my bot lane is getting inner tower elsewhere or I'm getting inhib tower while my teammates lose mid outer. No, my macro isn't always perfect, but it's a damn site better than most others in near my elo. So when it LOOKS like I'm being selfish... I'm generally not. I'm doing what's best for the TEAM. It might suck for an individual (me, or any other teammate), but overall our team stands to benefit MORE if we execute properly. I spell things out nicely, I have patience when people want to try a different strat - even if I know it will fail. I'll go along with them and try it several times so maybe they can realize it's not working. But when it does fail several times, I expect they show me the same courtesy and give my suggestion a try. And when it works... maybe don't run right back to their failing strat the next fight. Because that's what being a good teammate is.

A good teammate looks for what's best for the TEAM... not just themselves. A good teammate communicated strats with their team and is willing to try other's suggestions even if they don't think it will (or know it won't) succeed. A good teammate uses such failures to learn and help their teammates learn BETTER strats. A good teammate will sacrifice their kda, their farm, etc. to best enable their TEAM as a WHOLE to win. When your whole team refuses any semblance of teamwork aside from suicidal engages on anything that moves while being far behind and having no vision, a good teammate recognizes their best shot to help their team is to become a solo carry threat and hope they can carry harder than their team throws.

League 102 - how to be a good teammate session 1 is now over. Please review the material and be ready for tomorrow's quiz.[sg-ahri-1]

woodvsmurph1 votes

So if I don't want to be caught in a school shooting I should just avoid ever going to school? Cuz that's the logic you're using here. Pretty dumb.

As Faker himself said - see hot topic post(s) on boards today - the disparity of skill range is massive in games nowadays. And it makes it impossible to solo carry... no matter how good you are. It doesn't matter if you are Faker... if you're teammates are 4 master tier players and your opponents are all challenger players... the team with 5 challenger players trumps Faker. So... Faker needs to "git gud" and stop saying matchmaking should be better?

And it's not just him... nor him plus players like me in top 30%. It's plats and diamonds and higher too. Any of them speaking honestly will tell you there's games THEY can't win even when smurfing in say silver or gold elo. If you're team insists on refusing to do what's best for the TEAM and only thinks about themselves, then you can't carry that team vs a fed enemy team that works together... even when you are more skilled than any individual on either team. Obviously this holds for me - if it holds for someone from diamond smurfing in silver. And if you don't face individual skill equal or close to your own... you can't really improve your skill past a certain point... because your individual flaws and weaknesses aren't pointed out to you in the way facing a similarly skilled opponent can do. It's like... I need to use a different combo or be smarter about when to do this vs... I never got to play the game because I'm outstatted 1v2 and cannot punish the numerous openings I see where I could destroy this guy 1v1. Do you SEE the difference? Or if I did this in the teamfight we could win vs... oh it's been a literal 2 sec into the teamfight... I zoned and bursted one fed enemy and zoned 2 others while tanking the majority of the enemy team's burst and cc and... 3 of my teammates are dead and they killed no one. You SEE the difference. There's no improving in the one because... nothing you do matters. There's no salvaging your team in the one. There's no way to see what it optimal if you're team pulls their weight... because they don't/can't.

So while sometimes "git gud" is correct, in others it is inapplicable.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Snowman Arc1 votes

You somehow manage to die to Fiora + Shyvana ganks as Renekton, even through warding, then complain about other allies not playing well. LUL

woodvsmurph1 votes

No shit. I'm 2/3 hp, shyv is hopping out of fog of war and ulting to knock me back. That gives fiora easy ult since it takes about 2 sec to hit all vitals. And she'll flash just to make sure she gets her ult knockback on me. Fiora ult = 50% of my hp. Well if i'm 67% hp - 50%... that means if shyv can do 17% of my hp (ult plus a q pretty much does the trick), then I will die even if I land my combo and use stun and double dash to try to get away. Made worse still if i do damage with dash... but rito sees fit to not give me 2nd dash even though first one clearly damaged shyv. Also, I need to play agro even if I know shyv is top because jg is afk farming while mid and bot lose and I'm have jg living in my lane. Either I make plays or we bleed out. Simple as that. And shyv shouldn't BE top all game if jg did his job. Even after all that help... it literally takes 1v2 lane... 10 more min of free farm for fiora while I try to save team everywhere on map, and fiora getting 2 level advantage due to said free farm before she's purely out-statted me and can win 1v1.

I can't keep perma-ward in river and her tribrush; I can keep ward up in one or the other... not both. Buy a control ward? That dies as soon as shyv shows becuase either I 1v2 protect ward... or it dies. I also can't clear any control ward in her tribrush cuz... again end up 1v2 on her side of map... which is what we already discusssed was getting me killed. If top and jg and even mid are willing to constantly replace pinks for their toplaner... not much I can do to secure vision control.

And regardless, that's not the point of the whole exercise. The point is.. a shitty selfish teammate who does nothing to ever help his team has no right at all to call other people garbage/useless and flame team while the entire game his play is screwing over both himself and the rest of his team. Bad enough to play that shitty... but you add flaming people who are actually working with team to TRY to win and who are doing FAR BETTER than you... and that person deserves a ban.

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