I had a family member of mine die to cancer but the pain she had was minimal which is pretty nice.
On the other hand wishing late stage gonorrhea or mental illness (the ones that make you stupid) sound even worse but people don't really mention those when looking for insults.
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Eternal Torment6 votesit is indeed punishable actually. it falls under verbal abuse. Wishing any form of real illnesses, harm or otherwise harrassing individuals is encounted as harrassment, verbal abuse and/or vulgar slurs and is often struck with either a chat restriction, a temporary or even a permanent ban, depending on how severely the convo as a whole went out and depending on how many punishments you have on a record so far.
You are, by ToS and by Community rules and guidelines, under all circumstances not allowed to wish ill upon another.
All forms of harrassment and offensive slurring falls under a Zero tolerance policy btw, meaning there is no acceptable reason or excuse for doing what you did. You can have whatever mentality behind your actions whatsoever, you can be bipolar and did it on an triggered accident for all thats cared. it won't make the punishment any less severe.
KoKoboto2 votesI didn't ask if it was punishable lol. But It's nice to know Rito doesn't care about bipolar people :C
Eternal Torment1 votesWell they do care, but they cannot allow themselves to make exceptions because if they did people would try to abuse that to loophole themselves. a zero-tolerance policy is a necessary evil.
l2 4 G 31 votes[{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EnfHhnUG,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-08-27T17:48:03.451+0000)
Well they do care, but they cannot allow themselves to make exceptions because if they did people would try to abuse that to loophole themselves. a zero-tolerance policy is a necessary evil.
Lol, or they can just admit defeat and stop trying to control things that they -ultimately- have zero control over.
Eternal Torment1 votesRiot does not have control over the playerbase, but they do have set rules for the playerbase to exist within. If people cannot follow the rules, then that is not riot's flaw. Those guidelines are based on mostly common Knowledge and sense. it goes without any saying that you are not to call people out by racial Terms, not shame them, not belittle and badmanner them and not purposely harm them or their gaming experience because why the heck not.
Even if riot did not make the guidelines literal, it would still apply and would still be executed with the according punishments. Common sense should be a given for people who want to socialize on any Kind of platform, ecspecially games.
La Belle Sauvage1 votesExcept they do, as in enough reports will result in temp bans that if ignored could lead to permanent bans. They do have after the fact control. It's up to players to report when they see it.
l2 4 G 31 votes[{quoted}](name=Bello Bagheera,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EnfHhnUG,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-28T16:04:37.725+0000)
Except they do, as in enough reports will result in temp bans that if ignored could lead to permanent bans. They do have after the fact control. It's up to players to report when they see it.
It blows my mind that people are still convinced you can't 'game' the IFS system, rofl.
Like what are they putting in the koolaid that they're serving you Rioter fans?
La Belle Sauvage1 votesI didn't say it is a perfect system. Of course there are ways around all rules, not just this one. Careful, your Bias is showing.
Most flamers, trollers ect? It's a personality flaw. And I doubt that they can hold back even on new accounts. Kind of like criminals, eventually they get sloppy and are caught.
It is pathetic If a player is so toxic they have to create multiple accounts to escape bans.
TrulyBland1 votesQuick question: Do you believe every crime that is committed can be reliably proven in court?
KoKoboto1 votesAhh yes. That's nice logic. I can get behind that!
Eternal Torment1 votesYeah. it is always the same Thing. one Person gets pardoned for whatever reason and suddenly everyone asks for a pardon because they "had a similar case/reason" etc. it would promote explicit abuse of breaking the rules with a false sense of apology for it.
That is why Zero tolerance policies exist, to prevent abusive excuses. Riot sometimes does show remorse over certain people being struck due to circumstances, but since Zero tolerance applies to them aswell, they cannot revert the punishments once they were set either. It is a double edged sword, and not gonna lie sometimes i also felt a Little angry with some decisions they made regarding the playerbase, but thinking of it on the long run, and considering how this place can be at times, it is necessary.
KoKoboto1 votesSo how am I supposed to harass people?
Eternal Torment2 votesHell no. Thats exactly what you shouldnt do
KoKoboto1 votesI'm gonna harass people.
ModPrandine4 votesI'm gonna harass people.
Then you'll keep getting punishments for harassing people until you either shape up or ship out.
blackid1031 votespeople's term of harassing these days is soo loose and weak, you can't express your frustration with someone without them crying harassment
La Belle Sauvage2 votesThere is a difference between expressing frustration and harassment.
You know that just as I do.
Stop trying to draw equivalence between two things that are not equal.
l2 4 G 31 votesI didn't ask if it was punishable lol. But It's nice to know Rito doesn't care about bipolar people :C
I didn't say it was or wasn't.
I was actually curious as to whether this would result in an instant perm-ban, 14-day, or just a chat restriction.
Still waiting for a Rioter to confirm
Eternal Torment1 votesI don't think a rioter will appear to confirm it but if, then a board mod. But as it is commonly known, it all depends on the severity of the whole chat log. if you told someone "get cancer" like, just once? then you are probably off with a chat restriction, but if you Keep telling someone to die, how garbage he is etc etc the likelihood of instant bans, and permanent ones too, is higher. Thought, as i said, which punishment you get is never set in stone. It wavers every time a new, and an instant perma ban can occur if you throw around a lot of racial slurrs, but as i said, the less rude you are with your choice of words, the weaker the punishment is, assuming one does occur.
Mizuki Zahra1 votesim super bipolar found out the hard way games are not helping lol i love them
l2 4 G 32 votesCancer is death. They're wishing death upon someone.
Need a Rioter to confirm...Is this the same as telling someone to kill themselves?
ie, is it going to get someone a PERM ban, or just a chat restriction?
KoKoboto1 votesBut what's worse? Late stage gonorrhea or cancer. And lemme tell you, I know a guy going through late stage gonorrhea and holy shit...
l2 4 G 32 votesBut what's worse? Late stage gonorrhea or cancer. And lemme tell you, I know a guy going through late stage gonorrhea and holy shit...
But...gonorrhea is treatable with just antibioti...
I hate you
KoKoboto1 votesThere's cancer treatment.
Yeah you can treat it but I'm saying you just wish that the person was at late stage gonorrhea and by than you're basically screwed over.
Fütanari4 votes[{quoted}](name=l2 4 G 3,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EnfHhnUG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-27T16:55:22.297+0000)
Cancer is death. They're wishing death upon someone.
Need a Rioter to confirm...Is this the same as telling someone to kill themselves?
ie, is it going to get someone a PERM ban, or just a chat restriction?
This is news to me. I didn't know cancer is 100% death rate. I guess the people I knew who had cancer were lying.
Squidwards House2 votesmental illness? i dont have to wish that to anyone in this game, it feels like 95% of the ppl i meet alrdy are mentally ill.
Beas7ie2 votesBack in 2012 my grandmother went to see the doctor for a checkup and he decided she needed more tests done. After those were done we found out she had stage 3 or stage 4 cancer, mostly in lungs. (She never smoked btw). She deteriorated during that summer and the entire time my grandfather(who also had cancer but it was more manageable due to being less severe and being found earlier) was a mess the entire time. By September of that year my grandmother was on her last legs and the cancer and the treatments pretty much destroyed her immune system. She passed away early that month from pneumonia which she had because of the cancer.
My grandfather never got over it and would often randomly break down. He passed away in early 2014 from what seems to be Natural Causes. But it probably really was from a "broken heart". Even early on while managing his cancer he still suffered because both my grandparents loved traveling and when home my grandfather loved working around their house and land out in the country. When he got his cancer the medicine and treatment made it much harder for him to do any of that and would often get "cabin fever"
My dad also found out he had cancer a year or so ago in his knee, though fortunately in that case it was found early and he's been cancer free for a while. Though the treatments were hard on him too and he's a bit less active now.
So yes wishing cancer on someone is an incredibly horrible thing to do and if I see anyone say something like that in game or anywhere else on the internet for that matter I immediately wish I could punch them through their monitor. Like my fist would literally fly out of their monitor and punch them right in the face. For the time being though, I guess I'll just have to settle with Riot making that one of their automatic 14 day "last warning" ban offenses.
KoKoboto3 votesSounds subjective.
Beas7ie1 votesSounds subjective.
Keep in mind that a large part of the population probably have stories similar to mine so "subjective" or not they will also most likely not enjoy hearing someone wishing cancer to someone else.
Also wishing gonorrhea and other illnesses would also be worthy of punishment so if you see that in game then go ahead and report it.
ModUlanopo4 votesHuman interactions - including what we will and will not tolerate - will always be subjective.
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesI hope you step on Lego, have your Oreos break mid dunk and get stopped at every traffic light.
Permaban incoming kappa
KoKoboto1 votesAre you saying those are worse than cancer / gonorrhea?
ModPeriscope1 votesNo, he's not.
Colgate Gator1 votesYou're an idiot.
KoKoboto1 votesWatch that language. That's harassment.
La Belle Sauvage1 votesCalling someone an idiot isn't harassment. Calling them idiot over and over is a form of harassment.
For example you're an idiot for wanting to harass people is not harassment.
However, if I continue to level untrue or even true statements, or call you names over and over again then that's harassment.
La Belle Sauvage1 votesYes it's bad and shouldn't be done. I tend to report that when I see it.
Randomonium1 votesThe fact that you think cancer isn't painful shows how ignorant you are on the topic. I've had multiple people in my family die from cancer and they were all on heavy morphine towards the end. If your family member wasn't in pain then they were either lying to you or they were very, very lucky. Not only that but chemotherapy and radiation treatments are some of the worst things you can put your body through.
KoKoboto1 votesThe fact that you think my family member is a liar shows how this is subjective.
Randomonium1 votesI didn't say they were a liar, I said they were either lying to you or they were very, very lucky. Cancer is a horribly painful disease so the fact that you say it is not based on the experience of one of your family members leaves me with only those two options. Either your family member was in pain and chose to lie about it to save you from suffering or they were very lucky.
In the future, do some research before you assume absurd things like cancer isn't painful based on your extremely limited experience.
KoKoboto1 voteshttp://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-pain/art-20045118 Literally google "is cancer painful".
I did a shit ton going through it but that was 2 years ago. Not everyone feels pain, it's not INSANELY lucky. The only reason you hear about it much because people who go through pain talk about it more. That's what the news is, that's what media is. People talk about pain and suffering, they don't talk about nice things.
Also how dare you say that my family member is very, very, very, lucky. They got cancer, it's horrible.
Not as horrible as late stage gonorrhea or mental illness (the one that makes you stupid) though.
Randomonium1 votesAlso how dare you say that my family member is very, very, very, lucky. They got cancer, it's horrible.
And yet you're the one saying that wishing cancer on someone isn't that bad. So what's the point of your post again?
If someone gets cancer but they don't have pain don't you think that makes them more lucky than someone who gets cancer but is in horrible agony? Hence, your family member (while unlucky that they got cancer) was very lucky that they didn't suffer in horrible agony like many other people (including my family members.)
KoKoboto1 votesAnd yet you're the one saying that wishing cancer on someone isn't that bad. So what's the point of your post again?
Oh... That's what you're on about? I have never said that it's not bad. Glad we got that misunderstanding solved. No need to argue over nothing.
