I'm constantly trolled and flammed, yet I'm the one chat Restricted? I'm over Riot and their game

Oxóssi·May 12, 2019·5 votes·5,832 views

Game 1 Pre-Game

Ooduwa: top, mind switching?

In-Game Ooduwa: ward blue at 1:20 pls Ooduwa: ward blue at 1:20 pls Ooduwa: sike Ooduwa: scrubs Ooduwa: start it Ooduwa: ty Ooduwa: no ward Ooduwa: got nothing for that =/ Ooduwa: wtf Ooduwa: report akali Ooduwa: you're bad Ooduwa: she's a troll Ooduwa: report her Ooduwa: she literally sat under tower Ooduwa: let camille take it Ooduwa: ran off and hid Ooduwa: you'rebad Ooduwa: stop talking Ooduwa: camille, Akali is top by herself Ooduwa: you dont need ref Ooduwa: foh Ooduwa: he's really crying lol Ooduwa: pro jhin carrying Ooduwa: thanks Ooduwa: finally caught up with you ind eaths Ooduwa: mate, you're bad Ooduwa: hush Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: look at that lane of yours Ooduwa: 30 mins in Ooduwa: 1 tower Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: lol you guys lost 4v5 Ooduwa: the match Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: im done Ooduwa: nope, suffer! Ooduwa: Jhin been mad toxic all game Ooduwa: see Ooduwa: do your worst Ooduwa: ty, Jinx Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: he blames me for his 1 tower in 30 mins Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: you have 1 tower in 30 mins, yet you're flaming your jg Ooduwa: and i ganked bot 3-4 times Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: 1 tower Ooduwa: he didnt even fave a jg! Ooduwa: and has 1 tower lol Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: what? Post-Game Ooduwa: My team mad toxic Ooduwa: well deserved loss Ooduwa: i have 5 deaths lmao Ooduwa: lol

Literally, an entire match where I'm trolled and flammed. Even had an Akali sit under first tower and give away her lane, but I'm chat restricted for the above? This game has become a joke, and the people that support this arbitrary crusade against "toxicity" while constantly allowing trolls and afkers to ruin matches(3 of my last 4 ended in 15 minutes for this reason) is an absolute joke.

When this title finally dies, it'll be it's own doing.

70 Comments

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 201913 votes

You make it sound like you can't mute them and focus on the game. Just because someone initiate toxicity doesn't mean you get to sustain it.

Riot doesn't debate, compare, or dispute. Context does not matter. Riot simply follow the policy's procedure. If you're toxic, regardless of the reason, you'll get flagged. Get enough flags then you'll get punished.

Also, don't worry Riot Games League of Legends won't be going anywhere but thriving.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

And this is why this game is dying. Illogical disciplinary system that vigorously punishes "toxicity", while simultaneously protecting trolls and intentional feeders.

Nothing in the above warranted a ban. That's a joke.

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 201915 votes

According to a lot of players, the game been dying for the past 10 years. Even during beta when players were getting punished, they said the game won't even make it past its beta period.

You're not the first and you won't be the last to say that this game is dying. In the next 10 years, another player like yourself who has no self-control or able to take responsibility for their own action will post another post much like yourself saying the game is dying. They'll continue to lash out and try to convince themselves that this game is dead.

But here's the reality check. The game will be just fine. Regardless of your opinion. It was here 10 years ago today and it will be here 10 years from now. Nothing you can say will ever change that. Ever.

[sg-ahri-2]

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

Numbers speak for themselves

https://ginx.tv/lol/decline-of-league-of-legends/

So, yea, there will still be a player or two logging on to troll a match, but will it remain the giant it was through the mid 2010's? Nope, that much is clear.

How's that for a reality check?

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 20199 votes

Oh, come on, that old article again? That's from 2018 and it's nothing creative or compelling. I've seen much better articles than that one and far more convincing, just to show like many before it that they were wrong.

Man, you know how many people tried this? You're not saying anything new. I've seen many creative, math out, and convincing articles and theories than that. People make articles all the time. Doesn't mean any of it is true or anywhere accurate. And that article of last year is no different than any other article before it for the past 10 years.

There were 6.9 billion people on this planet 10 years ago. Now there's 7.5 billion. The population of this game increases every year.

Just leave. The game will be just fine without you. Your post doesn't impact anyone and nothing you said or will say will convince anyone.

Those numbers don't speak for anything. Just another article among the millions before it and millions after it.

That's a reality check.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

https://www.newsweek.com/league-legends-feargorm-esports-na-lcs-finals-eu-1093389

You're in denial, mate.

And that's without getting into their workplace issues.

rujitraMay 12, 20199 votes

Esports has nothing to do with player counts. Period. Many people I know have never touched League of Legends but watch it on stream or when pros are playing. Likewise, there are many players that don't touch esports.

Riot is trying to find the balance between making a game for players, and making a game for viewers.

Regardless, this is all off topic, so I encourage you both to start your own separate threads if you guys wish to discuss the game population.

OoduwaMay 12, 20192 votes

The game is losing players + viewers. Also, I'm confident this is on topic, given I created the thread, and I'm presuming one of the causes behind Riot's waning popularity is it's overzealous, inane, and unethical disciplinary system.

CharDeeMcDennizMay 12, 20192 votes

the fact that you expect a game that's as massive as LoL to maintain that level of popularity for 10+ years is laughable

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 20193 votes

I am not in denial because what I state is from fact and experience. But as rujitra said this is off topic and I don't need to prove anything about the state of the game. The state of the game will be the same no matter how many articles you pull up. Because regardless what you think, do, or say, in the end, League of Legends will be just as is as it always will be just like it was 10 years ago and as it will be in 10 more years.

I am done, I stated what I need to state. I am going to respect rujitra wishes and move on. You say what you want.

Badboykiller0May 12, 20191 votes

I dont think you've been looking at the stats my friend. S9 is LoL's LEAST played season, along with the players decreasing every season. This guy is right, Riot's disciplinary system is bad, hence why everyone is STILL toxic. If it were good, people would be MUCH more hesitant to be toxic.

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 20195 votes

I was looking at the stats. Just like I looked at it last year from another player who posted it after they were punished for their own lack of self-control. You have to realize that the players that Riot disciplines are under 1%. The majority of those players under that 1% reforms and doesn't make the same mistakes twice. People who are toxic are either on their 10th account or brand new to the game. The 1% doesn't mean anything to the community or the company. Never have and never will.

Riot will keep banning players beyond their 100th accounts until they change.

So no, the guy isn't right. Just like the millionth guy before him and the millionth after him. Won't even be close.

TheVeryWorstGuyMay 13, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zombie Gerbil,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EU0mzMYI,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T02:00:15.917+0000)

According to a lot of players, the game been dying for the past 10 years. Even during beta when players were getting punished, they said the game won't even make it past its beta period.

You're not the first and you won't be the last to say that this game is dying. In the next 10 years, another player like yourself who has no self-control or able to take responsibility for their own action will post another post much like yourself saying the game is dying. They'll continue to lash out and try to convince themselves that this game is dead.

But here's the reality check. The game will be just fine. Regardless of your opinion. It was here 10 years ago today and it will be here 10 years from now. Nothing you can say will ever change that. Ever.

[sg-ahri-2]

The game has lost popularity. If you think about the increased number of people who are on PC playing games and how the size of the playerbase is remaining the same. We are either not getting enough new players, or old players are leaving. I don't think League is a bad game but riot has not been putting the best amount of effort into it.

Honestly think about it we have more champs and skins even emots now, but we have lost more playable content than we've received. I'd like to hear your oppinion on it but please don't talk about events that are just made to sell skins as if it counts as genuine content.

Zombie GerbilMay 13, 20191 votes

Listen I'd love to get into a debate with you on this, but I already said I'd respect rujitra's wishes and not discuss the population of this game for it is off topic for this thread. I am not going to read what you said and get baited into a discussion with you. But if you want to discuss this, create a new thread in general discussion or something and maybe I'll come across it and take the time to debate with it with you.

But I will not be doing it here.

ArsinikMay 12, 20199 votes

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And this is why this game is dying. Illogical disciplinary system that vigorously punishes "toxicity", while simultaneously protecting trolls and intentional feeders.

Nothing in the above warranted a ban. That's a joke.

you say that its protecting trolls but it obviously flagged and got you. Seems the system is working fine to me.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

But nothing about reflects trolling? Trolling would be the players that constantly int, feed, and or ruin matches purposely. Those are the people that are allowed to plague matches without consequences.

If Riot were truly doing a good job, so many of its players wouldn't share the same complaints.

spool32May 13, 20191 votes

You were ruining a match with your chats. You are the problem. If players are leaving, it's because of you and people like you who think they have a right to tell people how bad they are in a game, and get mad when devs disagree.

Lostcauz707May 12, 20195 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zombie Gerbil,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EU0mzMYI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-12T01:52:29.246+0000)

You make it sound like you can't mute them and focus on the game. Just because someone initiate toxicity doesn't mean you get to sustain it.

Riot doesn't debate, compare, or dispute. Context does not matter. Riot simply follow the policy's procedure. If you're toxic, regardless of the reason, you'll get flagged. Get enough flags then you'll get punished.

Also, don't worry Riot Games League of Legends won't be going anywhere but thriving.

On of my friends is the angriest Canadian you will ever meet. Plays every game full mute outside of pings. His flaming used to get him banned constantly, now he doesn't get banned ever. Take notes, know your limits as a player and realize you just shouldn't be talking to strangers on the internet. It's why I left Facebook.

Zombie GerbilMay 12, 20191 votes

Well, I'm glad he's not getting banned anymore. As for talking to strangers on the internet, as a gamer, that's inevitable for me. But whatever makes you happy and whatever keeps you content. If talking to strangers on the internet isn't for you, I commend you for it.

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20198 votes

Saying "you're bad" over and over is negative behavior regardless of your teammates. It sucks that you got people griefing, but you can still get in trouble for being negative.

OxóssiMay 12, 20191 votes

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Saying "you're bad" over and over is negative behavior regardless of your teammates. It sucks that you got people griefing, but you can still get in trouble for being negative.

Logic such as this is exactly why this game is a dying shell of its former self. Keep it up and people like you will put the final nail in the coffin.

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20194 votes

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Logic such as this is exactly why this game is a dying shell of its former self. Keep it up and people like you will put the final nail in the coffin.

"People like me"? Lol, all I did was explain to you why you got punished. You arguing in chat just annoys the other people who aren't doing anything. Sounds like the break will do you some good.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

Yes, people like you. I.e. People that go out of their way to defend nonsense no matter how illogical.

I'm not on a break? I'm only pointing out the absurdity of RIot's disciplinary system. Try to keep up.

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20192 votes

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Yes, people like you. I.e. People that go out of their way to defend nonsense no matter how illogical.

I'm not on a break? I'm only pointing out the absurdity of RIot's disciplinary system. Try to keep up.

Sounds like you're the one defending nonsense, like "if I start fighting with someone it's not going to ruin the entire match for everyone else". Arguing doesn't make them stop trolling.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

But I didn't start fighting anyone? I laughed at flame. Oh, the humanity! Someone laughed at harassment. They must be stopped at once!

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20192 votes

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But I didn't start fighting anyone? I laughed at flame. Oh, the humanity! Someone laughed at harassment. They must be stopped at once!

Ooduwa: wtf Ooduwa: report akali Ooduwa: you're bad Ooduwa: she's a troll Ooduwa: report her Ooduwa: she literally sat under tower Ooduwa: let camille take it Ooduwa: ran off and hid Ooduwa: you'rebad Ooduwa: stop talking

This is very clearly against the terms you agreed to.. like, I complain about this game more than anyone but you breaking the tos by being negative and saying "you're bad" over and over is just you breaking the terms that you agreed to when you made a league account. It's not riot's fault that you started annoying all the people in game who weren't arguing.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

Of course, I'm supposed to watch a player literally stand mid lane, give away a tower, and say nothing. Because that's the human thing to do, not care or react!

Some of you are so ridiculously over the top in your defense of the indefensible that it's impossible to take you seriously.

spool32May 13, 20191 votes

The amazing thing here is how you are struggling to imagine a nontoxic way to respond.

MrEndsMay 13, 20192 votes

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Logic such as this is exactly why this game is a dying shell of its former self. Keep it up and people like you will put the final nail in the coffin.

bro calling someone bad literally doesn't do anything other than making the situation worse.

mack9112May 12, 20198 votes

Why let people on the internet get under your skin ? Do you realize you ruin games by continuing to engage with other toxic individuals as you become just as bad as them.

Take this as an opportunity to improve.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

I realize that Riot games is the only publisher out there that would ban a player for the above dialogue, and only because people like you blindly support an inane and unjust disciplinary system.

mack9112May 12, 20195 votes

In life you have to learn there is a time and a place for everything. In a game where every moment counts you spending your time getting into a spitting contest with a complete strangers resolves absolutely nothing and you become a part of the other problem.

It takes two to start somethIng but only one to end it. Be the bigger person mute them mute there pings and play the game so the 8 other people can enjoy there match.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

In real life none of the above would be a problem anywhere outside of a professional setting. Stop being so dramatic, it's ridiculous.

mack9112May 12, 20194 votes

In real life you would not get in a BM war with somebody either ... at least I hope you would not.

You being dramatic is what got you into this situation as shown by your own chat logs.

Badboykiller0May 12, 20191 votes

Yeah but how is he wrong for being irritated? Hes being PROVOKED.

mack9112May 12, 20196 votes

Using self control you have to recognize when it’s an appropriate time to engage with toxic individuals . In a middle of a game a league ? No

Badboykiller0May 12, 20191 votes

Ok, here's something you should do in EVERY discussion since you're trying your hardest to seem intelligent when it's really not that serious. Look at it from his point of view as well as yours. Maybe YOU would ignore them, but maybe his team was losing as he was already frustrated, then ON TOP OF that he has some toxic person consistently flaming him. He's being PROVOKED. You're talking like its completely his fault when they are many factors to consider before judging what he did and received from it.

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20197 votes

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Ok, here's something you should do in EVERY discussion since you're trying your hardest to seem intelligent when it's really not that serious. Look at it from his point of view as well as yours. Maybe YOU would ignore them, but maybe his team was losing as he was already frustrated, then ON TOP OF that he has some toxic person consistently flaming him. He's being PROVOKED. You're talking like its completely his fault when they are many factors to consider before judging what he did and received from it.

It's actually really easy to just mute the people flaming and calm down. If you get so upset over League that you spend half the game typing, you should probably take a break and go for a walk or something lol

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

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Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20193 votes

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..Removed by Moderation..

What a hot take. I and many others talk in game all the time, and don't get banned. Because I'm an adult who plays this game for fun and knows to follow the rules I agreed to. Just mute, report, and move on. You seem to think calling a troll names is gonna make them stop trolling. It's a video game, if it gets you this mad you should take a break. I don't know why being a mature adult and ignoring trolls is some leftist conspiracy.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

I'm not banned, genius. So your elementary, "holier than thou", premise is flawed from the start.
Anyhow, you're apparently an adult that doesn't understand not all adults enjoy being overly policed for relatively tame, harmless behaviors. You have a lot of growing up to do, mate.
I seem to think I should retain the right to respond to or criticize people who are intentionally wasting my time and or ruining my experiences.

Oh, the humanity! How will we go on if people are allowed to speak in less than glowing terms about one another? It can't be tolerated, as the foundations of world peace were constructed upon people not speaking to one another!

Jhins GirlfriendMay 12, 20193 votes

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I'm not banned, genius. So your elementary, "holier than thou", premise is flawed from the start.

Anyhow, you're apparently an adult that doesn't understand not all adults enjoy being overly policed for relatively tame, harmless behaviors. You have a lot of growing up to do, mate.

I seem to think I should retain the right to respond to or criticize people who are intentionally wasting my time and or ruining my experiences.

Oh, the humanity! How will we go on if people are allowed to speak in less than glowing terms about one another? It can't be tolerated, as the foundations of world peace were constructed upon people not speaking to one another!

You didn't get banned, you did get a chat restriction, though - something a ton of people haven't gotten despite talking ingame daily. I'm not claiming to be better than anyone else. I'm actually really ass at this game. But like, I follow the rules? And if someone trolls in a game it's frustrating, but you just move on, don't make the game even more miserable for the 8 other people who have to deal with you being overly negative. Your weird strawman about needing to only type 100000% positive all the time doesn't even hold up.

mack9112May 12, 20192 votes

I play league to play the game not to get in arguments with people over spitting contests and in my opinion everyone should be like that.

There is no reason to get in arguements with people complete strangers over a video game it solves nothing.

Play the game try your best mute people if they are being a negative to a team environment why do you need to prove anything to them. Your in game skill will say it all.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

No one cares why you play league? As far as I know, no one asked. The reasons you play league don't detract from the obvious flaws in Riot's system.

We all know it's trash. You don't have to embarrass yourself pretending otherwise. Riot isn't cutting you a check after all.

mack9112May 12, 20193 votes

If you are playing this game for any other reason than to actually play the game then you are only negatively affecting the game experience.

The system ensure all players involved in every game remain focused on playing the game. If you cannot exhibit self control and avoid getting into toxic situations with strangers then the system will administer a punishment and you can decide to reform or continue to be toxic.

Riots system does its job and proctects the vast majority of the playerbase that wants a toxic free game experience with a focus on game play not bickering.

OoduwaMay 12, 20191 votes

None of what you said negates the well documented flaws in RIot's disciplinary system. You could have saved us both from your long winded response.

mack9112May 12, 20194 votes

And flaw exactly are you referring to ? From what I understand it is operating exactly as intended.

If you are toxic you will be punished.

I am not toxic in games so I’m my 7 years of playing I have never been punished.

spool32May 13, 20192 votes

This kind of talk is why you got chat restricted lmao. It's like you can't stop yourself.

Best Flash NAMay 12, 20194 votes

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Game 1 Pre-Game

Ooduwa: top, mind switching?

In-Game Ooduwa: ward blue at 1:20 pls Ooduwa: ward blue at 1:20 pls Ooduwa: sike Ooduwa: scrubs Ooduwa: start it Ooduwa: ty Ooduwa: no ward Ooduwa: got nothing for that =/ Ooduwa: wtf Ooduwa: report akali Ooduwa: you're bad Ooduwa: she's a troll Ooduwa: report her Ooduwa: she literally sat under tower Ooduwa: let camille take it Ooduwa: ran off and hid Ooduwa: you'rebad Ooduwa: stop talking Ooduwa: camille, Akali is top by herself Ooduwa: you dont need ref Ooduwa: foh Ooduwa: he's really crying lol Ooduwa: pro jhin carrying Ooduwa: thanks Ooduwa: finally caught up with you ind eaths Ooduwa: mate, you're bad Ooduwa: hush Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: look at that lane of yours Ooduwa: 30 mins in Ooduwa: 1 tower Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: lol you guys lost 4v5 Ooduwa: the match Ooduwa: lol Ooduwa: im done Ooduwa: nope, suffer! Ooduwa: Jhin been mad toxic all game Ooduwa: see Ooduwa: do your worst Ooduwa: ty, Jinx Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: he blames me for his 1 tower in 30 mins Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: you have 1 tower in 30 mins, yet you're flaming your jg Ooduwa: and i ganked bot 3-4 times Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: 1 tower Ooduwa: he didnt even fave a jg! Ooduwa: and has 1 tower lol Ooduwa: lmao Ooduwa: what? Post-Game Ooduwa: My team mad toxic Ooduwa: well deserved loss Ooduwa: i have 5 deaths lmao Ooduwa: lol

Literally, an entire match where I'm trolled and flammed. Even had an Akali sit under first tower and give away her lane, but I'm chat restricted for the above? This game has become a joke, and the people that support this arbitrary crusade against "toxicity" while constantly allowing trolls and afkers to ruin matches(3 of my last 4 ended in 15 minutes for this reason) is an absolute joke.

When this title finally dies, it'll be it's own doing.

I didn't read it all, I stopped when you said Report Akali. Telling others to report someone is a reportable offense in itself because to Riot that is you trying to abuse their report system. Most that deserve a report get them, so they look at it as you trying to get a person reported for personal reasons and not for the correct ones. Just hit mute next time. You don't have to type in the game. You played yourself.