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Can riot create some type of system that lets you not get leaver busted under conditions?

Ramen226··1 votes·402 views

I'm not talking about someone goes an off meta pick and I get pissy and decide to leave. I mean more like someone gets jungle, they say "support or troll," support gives up his role and locks in chogath jg, toxic guy says I'm trolling, going top and picks Alistar summoner 12 . I'm talking about lobbies where it is clear and obvious that this guy is trying to ruin the game. Just tired of getting leaver buster and losing LP bc it really isn't worth the time and effort to get trolled for 20 minutes.

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Magical Player4 votes

no Any additional system would be abused to prevent lp losses, or delay games

Ramen2261 votes

No no, not prevent LP loses. I'll take the loss of LP but there's got to be some way to judge if someone is trolling in champ select. Vote kick, being able to record champ select and judge it by that, I dunno. And I get that vote kick wouldn't work atm considering solo queue doesn't exist. But this seems to be a much desired system that has been requested for quite some time. I'm more curious if it just isnt possible or if riot's just too lazy, or if it would take too many resources to be considered worth it.

Ramen2261 votes

All in all I'm more concerned that I have to wait like 15 minutes or whatever it is to get into a new game bc I really don't wanna waste my time.

2 Weezy Baby2 votes

yeah it's called playing the fucking game

Ramen2261 votes

You cant seem to read...

2 Weezy Baby2 votes

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You cant seem to read...

Can riot create some type of system that lets you not get leaver busted under conditions?

u literally just play the fucking game to not get leaver busted. that's the condition. ??????????????????????

Ramen2261 votes

You clearly didn't read anything but the title. A system where games can be disbanded (even at loss off my own LP) either without leaver buster, or with reduced one. Maybe read the actual subject instead of skipping down to write something stupid for no reason other than to clog the comment section with your crappy opinion.

Either be productive to a solution, answer the question with why there is no solution, or get off the boards. Sheesh.

2 Weezy Baby2 votes

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You clearly didn't read anything but the title. A system where games can be disbanded (even at loss off my own LP) either without leaver buster, or with reduced one. Maybe read the actual subject instead of skipping down to write something stupid for no reason other than to clog the comment section with your crappy opinion.

Either be productive to a solution, answer the question with why there is no solution, or get off the boards. Sheesh.

it's called surrender. if you are garbage enough that you believe games end before 20 min and can't even wait until 20 min to surrender maybe u just need to stop playing

Ramen2261 votes

LOL, you STILL didn't read a word I said. Alright lemme try in bullet points this time and maybe you'll pay attention lol

KEEP IN MIND WE ARENT IN GAME YET ~Player A gets jungle ~Says support or troll ~Player B gives up support and locks in chogath w/ smite. ~player A says "nevermind I'm gonna troll, going top" and locks in Alistar with summoner 12 summoner 6 Is it possible to create a system where the punishment for dodging this kind of lobby could be reduced? (Willing to take LP loss, but want to get into a new game as soon as possible)

Magical Player2 votes

They made a movie about people Predicting crimes from happening Thats where the problem lies the person who claims to be trolling hasn't committed a punishable offence yet, as the game hasn't commenced It's early punishment based on people directly affected by an event that hasn't or may never occur.

Hell if took 4 people to accept a remake prior to lobby going, you'd see no game ever get off the ground, unless everyone had huge stats on the heros they picked. As everyone would be doing a mass look up everygame, and if it didnt line up. Lets just pull the ole blame troll remake card, and screw 1 person over for the sake of the 4 others.

Its a philosophical question , do you harm a few for benefit of many, or do you harm many for the benefit of a few https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem if you're a person on many path, you'd want to damn 1 person if you're the 1 person you'd want to damn the many if you're the trolley, you'd not care If you're the guy pulling the switch you'd be the decider.

Ramen2261 votes

This all lies under the assumption that we would punish the "troll" in question. I agree that since he hasn't committed a crime YET that he shouldn't be punished. HOWEVER, I believe that there should be a way to allow players to not take that chance. I shouldn't have to actually have to see if this guy is serious about stealing my role in order to not play with him.

~I get that he shouldn't be punished because he hasn't technically done anything yet ~But why should I be punished so heavily because I don't want to find out?

Magical Player2 votes

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This all lies under the assumption that we would punish the "troll" in question. I agree that since he hasn't committed a crime YET that he shouldn't be punished. HOWEVER, I believe that there should be a way to allow players to not take that chance. I shouldn't have to actually have to see if this guy is serious about stealing my role in order to not play with him.

~I get that he shouldn't be punished because he hasn't technically done anything yet ~But why should I be punished so heavily because I don't want to find out?

Because dodging games affects 9 people outside of yourself. You are delaying them in getting into game. That is why you are punished for dodging

Ramen2261 votes

Delaying 9 people from getting into a game that most likely would have been a bad game anyways? I understand the necessity that a punishment system has to be in place for dodging. But why should there be only punishment and no grace? Why cant there be a way to prevent getting into these types of games that are easily preventable?

(on a completely unrelated note, do you know why there isnt a "ranked ban" system so that people only get banned from ranked draft?

Magical Player2 votes

There is grace, one dodge is 5 mins 2 is 30 one is for accidents 2 is for intentions 10 lp is grace for dodges https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751844-Queue-Dodging you lose 1/2 lp for dodging a game basically, that is grace enough.

You mention preventing these people from getting into ranked.. How do we find these people, how do we isolate their strain from the rest of the community. What are the signal indicators that will tell us if you or I is that person?

In regards to your last question, they use to have a system like that. It was highly ineffective at controlling toxicity/trolling in ranked(to my knowledge)

Ramen2261 votes

That's true i suppose, ( about getting the one dodge a day kinda thing)

In regards to what system would prevent these people getting into ranked: it'd mostly be about past performances where if you would Grief, Int, afk, or be throw by being uncooperative with your team (basically HEAVY flaming not just the usual stuff, afk farming the jungle so that they technically aren't afk but they aren't doing anything either, or any behavior that throws the game without directly being something reportable,) is when you would be issued larger ranked ban. I thought maybe it would allow more liberal usage of the ban hammer to eliminate any non-serious players in ranked. ~But if you say it had already been done before and it was ineffectice then i guess that's the end of the question. Thx for being nice about it instead of a lot of the people on here being douchebags. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

FurriesAreHot1 votes

Actually not near as bad first 3ish are warns, then a few 5 min, then 10, then 20, then people; then 60

Ramen2261 votes

This is all in champion select, forgot to mention.

This Is Your Dad1 votes

I say if 3 people vote yes you can re q since you can only have duos in solo/duo. But idk.

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