This happens every season for past 2 years now... going on 3rd

woodvsmurph·1/11/2019, 10:42:10 PM·1 votes·2,492 views

Start of season I'll get put with complete garbage teammates that belong 2 or more tiers below me almost every single game. They refuse to listen, refuse to adapt, turn off their brain and don't even try if losing lane or even just not solo carrying, and ruin every game. Game is perfectly winnable? We are one 5 man push down mid away from winning? They chose the one and ONLY option available that will prevent us from winning. Not once or twice which is excusable mistake I suppose. But for as long as it takes until they've thrown the game.

Like a nasus jg that can't 1v1 anyone and spends 33 of 35 min in game sitting in jg or side lane (not pushing or threatening towers) stacking his q as we lose everything on map. Oh, well just fight around him then? No... he will literally recall and run somewhere else. If you follow, he will sit on fountain so you lose rather than help team. It's that level of selfish utter stupidity and troll nearly every match.

Or I'm the most fed player in the game. Sure we can 5v5, but we don't necessarily win that cuz my team is behind. But they have peel, a tank, lots of waveclear and can hold up 4v3 or 4v2 no problem. Especially since... the enemy has been 2 or 3 manning me all game whenever I splitpush. Ask team to please just play safe, ward, and 4 man a lane while I split enemy up and apply pressure. What does team do? Oh there's 5 enemies right in front of us... let's force a 4v5 in the open and die then blame our toplaner. I'm sorry what? That's the complete opposite of what I asked you to do and goes against all common sense. Moreover, you have no right to flame me for not being grouped when I explained everything in simple terms and pings... much less act like it's my fault you died. But cuz boards, mods, etc. will say "you need to adapt and work with team"... guess what? I did. I did their requested method and teamfight... only to have them take the complete opposite answer when enemy has a splitpusher. Enemy is splitpushing and doesn't have tp? Hey, I'm grouped like you asked... we can force a 5v4 on enemy right in front of us. Engage and start fight only to THEN have 2 people on team that flamed me the most for not grouping... run off and try to 2v1 enemy splitpusher and screw the other 3 of us over in a 3v4 that should have been a 5v4. Worse still, said 2 man party feeds the enemy solo pushing because omg it's so hard to 2v1... especially considering I could 1v2 that splitpusher and their jungler no problem.

On and on we cycle through the same dumb answers and complaints over and over. Teamfight - we need you with us... only to run off and ditch team when I group. Splitpush... only for them to force fight they know from the last 3x inting doing the same play... that they can't win. And no matter how much I cater to what they ask I'm always somehow the one at fault.

This would be bad enough if it were one game in 10. But it's more like 5 out of 6 games are like this whether I do one game a day or 10 games a day. Whether I play in afternoon or early morning. Same shit. If I said half of what team said to me and I played like they did? I'd be 2 teirs lower elo and perma-banned for repeated toxicity in chat. But these guys? They're Riot's little angels and nothing is done about them. No insta-demotions like they deserve because obviously that sadly isn't a thing. But more importantly no chat restrictions and no suspensions. But you can't know that buddy - you don't get an alert every time someone gets a punishment? I can look to see if they are still playing. And if I've HAD TO report 2-4 people in 5 of the last 6 games for that level of shitty attitude and play... I should be getting at least ONE notification. Especially if you multiply that by several weeks of that 5 out of 6 games. But do I get single feedback? No. So if no feedback, if I see the same shit behavior game after game from new people week after week - they can't just be doing this crap to me; other people have to be suffering from having these teammates too - then it's obviously not being addressed. Otherwise the frequency with which I encounter it would drop. Otherwise I'd get feedback on these people getting punished with the frequency with which I have to report. I'm not reporting some 1/8/4 lucian that fed cuz he was autofilled adc where you'd be justified in ignoring the report either... and where I wouldn't report him because he actually tried.

But we tolerate and excuse shitty play and shitty attitude of people - as though it's fine to decide to throw the game intentionally over and over and over until you lose. All because... you didn't win lane? you aren't solo carrying the game? you don't like that someone asked you to group or play safe in one scenario?

How the heck is that not toxic? How is playing shitty like that and intentionally throwing the game PLUS blaming someone that's actually playing logically and... even catering to you and ADJUSTING THEIR PLAY to fit what YOU prefer not toxic? But if I don't play nice, suck it up, and enjoy auto-losing 5 out of every 6 games for as long as Riot puts me with such teammates then I'm the bad toxic player for replying to such flame and griefing with bad words. Nobody should have to put up with that amount of bs game after game. Riot shouldn't be ignoring that kind of griefing and harassment. And if they ignore that, then they have no right to punish a player who eventually gets fed up with such bs harassment and griefing by telling said players the truth... that they are playing like dumbasses. Not even "you are a dumbass" but you are PLAYING LIKE one. English language distinguishes between the two with the former being a state of being that can't be helped and the latter being something that can be changed/fixed. Anyways... that's drawing attention away from the real point. These griefers - especially the ones toxic enough to blame you, then blame you again when they screw you over for doing what they asked you to do (because you're nice and adjusted your play just to cater to them) - need to be punished. Swiftly and consistently. Right now - as has been the case for the past 2 seasons - they are being ignored or absurd excuses made for them. That only feeds toxicity in league. Stop the bs. Start fixing the real problem.

11 Comments

Kei1431/12/2019, 2:24:42 AM2 votes

Just accept the fact that people are bad at the macro game.

There are plenty of tutorials for laning, trading, csing, zoning and low level power spikes. Not enough tutorials out there for macro stuff.

Even people at higher ELO can have bad macro.

As a self proclaimed "Macro > Micro player", it sometimes does get frustrating that people don't understand how to have a lane push out, don't know how to play around split push, don't know how to rotate etc etc.

But what can you do? People are bad at macro cos they don't get to practice it too much.

R107 Games1/11/2019, 10:50:57 PM1 votes

I think people describe that behavior as "soft inting", where you just stop trying to win the game and passively feed the enemy team. But not hard enough to warrant a punishment for inting.

What is toxic is not limited to riot's personal definition. You have a right to think a player that stops trying is toxic. But only toxicity defined by riot gets punished.

I've been observing behaviors in my games and it seems players don't try as hard or stop trying when their team is being optimistic or indifferent after every mistake. Adding pressure to someone by flaming them usually encourages them to try, at least in my experience.

Telephone Booth1/12/2019, 2:50:00 AM1 votes

Has the season started?!? So excited xD

Neko Siren1/12/2019, 4:11:20 AM1 votes

I've had multiple games in a row of Irons as a Silver 2. Shouldn't I be qued with, idk, other Silvers across the board???