My account has been dishonorable for five months now

Frontline Fury··6 votes·4,084 views

Is it even possible to regain honor? I frequently have nightmares about waking up to chat restrictions. I've kept my behaviour in check ever since i recieved a two week ban, almost half a year ago.

In this time, my smurf account has recieved Honor 5.

But my main account is still stuck at "Dishonorable".

Now that i know i'm being locked out of any social events (taking away the little fun left in league) the honor rating actually matters to me.

Is it even possible to raise it out of the "dishonorable" rating?

35 Comments

Karunamon3 votes

Is it even possible to raise it out of the "dishonorable" rating?

Absolutely! The trick is, honor gets restored over time AND games played, with no valid reports.

Valid reports don't always lead to a chat restrict, but if you're already at honor zero, those valid reports will mean it takes even longer for you to climb out of the hole.

Tactrix1 votes

He lies, you're never getting out.

iMustachio1 votes

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Absolutely! The trick is, honor gets restored over time AND games played, with no valid reports.

Valid reports don't always lead to a chat restrict, but if you're already at honor zero, those valid reports will mean it takes even longer for you to climb out of the hole.

So I've been dishonorable for 3 months now. And according to what everyone else is saying, I can't climb out because my stupid ass friends keep reporting me every game just for fun(which I got banned for in the first place). Is there anyway I can get out of this, im stacking up high on chests and i have no keys, parents won't let me spend money and im stuck with no Orange essence.

Karunamon1 votes

Remember, valid reports. Even if your friends are being jerks, those reports count for nothing unless you're actually showing bad behavior in that game.

ZenaSpiritdragon3 votes

I've heard you need to play games where you get honored to help climb, otherwise it takes forever. Don't know for sure though.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

I want to say, this seems concerning and so I am also curious about this topic.

Edit: How often do you play? IE how many games per week or month?

At this moment, I don't have anything else to add to this, but I may return later to participate further if I develop any thoughts or ideas I find relevant to it.

Frontline Fury1 votes

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I want to say, this seems concerning and so I am also curious about this topic.

Edit: How often do you play? IE how many games per week or month?

At this moment, I don't have anything else to add to this, but I may return later to participate further if I develop any thoughts or ideas I find relevant to it.

I play roughly 12 games a day, plus minus.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I play roughly 12 games a day, plus minus.

Damn, yeah, I'm inclined to agree with what Silent Gravity was saying. Perhaps you've had a moment of passive aggression or two, or you were slightly negative, and someone reported you. The report may not have been enough to punish you, but perhaps they still hold it against your honor. I don't know, just a thought.

Frontline Fury1 votes

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Damn, yeah, I'm inclined to agree with what Silent Gravity was saying. Perhaps you've had a moment of passive aggression or two, or you were slightly negative, and someone reported you. The report may not have been enough to punish you, but perhaps they still hold it against your honor. I don't know, just a thought.

Perhaps. People report each other ALL the time in diamond. Didnt give blue buff? Report. Died? Report. Playing a champion that is disliked? Report. Stomped lane? Report.

Guess i'll have to quit ranked if i ever want honor back.

Who is Taliyah2 votes

Do you play with premades? If so I'd advice you to queue up solo for a while as honors from randoms count more.

Lux or Rando3 votes

Incorrect. Honors all count the same regardless of pre-made or solo.

Who is Taliyah1 votes

Didn't use to in the old system. Guess I was uninformed then.

Jo0o4 votes

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008474148-Honor-FAQ

According to the honor FAQ, this is incorrect:

Can I game the system and boost to level 5 by constantly playing with a premade and honoring each other every game?

That’s a great idea. Luckily, we’ve broken a few systems in our day, too. So we specifically built Honor so potential exploits like this give you (and your friend) literally no benefit.

Lux or Rando3 votes

It says right there "literally no benefit." so they both count as the same. Again, what I said is right.

Jo0o2 votes

Are you suggesting that ALL honors carry zero weight in an extremely slow and obtuse manner?

Lux or Rando4 votes

They really don't hold any weight difference, as the average player will go up 1 honor rank over 2-3 months; Riot confirmed that.

Baka Red1 votes

You might want to reread that. :) It clearly says that in the current honor system there is a subsystem to prevent premades from abusing honor system by reducing the value of premade honor compared to non-premade. However, if you have a Rioter quote confirming the opposite, I would be glad to see that myself.

However, in some other parts they also say that receiving those honors improves honor status gain a little. So, I guess it means that not getting true negative reports is more important for honor gain than receiving positive honor flags.

Lux or Rando2 votes

Lel. Nope. They did not make pre-mades gain less. I play with premade all the time and solo, it goes up just the same.

Frontline Fury1 votes

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Do you play with premades? If so I'd advice you to queue up solo for a while as honors from randoms count more.

I only ever play solo.

Silent Gravity2 votes

Valid reports slow down your honor growth drastically. So, to gain honor requires not being validly reported.

Reports seem to be considered valid if there is ANY negativity in the chat log. That means that there are some common behaviors that on their own is not enough to earn a penalty, but is enough to remove your honor.

Therefore completely avoid:

Saying that you're reporting someone. Asking for other people to report someone. Accusing anyone of afk/trolling/feeding/flaming/ect. Threatening to afk/troll/feed/ect. Saying that you're muting someone. Linking anyone's KDA to highlight their deaths. Using EZ or any of it's offshoots at any point in the game. Insulting anyone. That includes "Just saying" or "It's the truth, not an insult"

/Edit 1 From careful consideration of Red posts and all the honor milestone posts (when honor was new and people talked about the specifics of when they hit 3/4/5) it seems very likely that being honored counts very little toward honor growth, and the biggest honor gains are from playing a game and the "everyone on the team honored someone" bonus. So don't worry about farming upvotes in your matches.

/Edit 2 If you want to criticize a bad play, that can also be considered negative, but if you word it as, "Next time do XXXXX" or "Next time wait for my ult to be up" ect. Communicating a plan that will help you win/do better is what chat was made for, so using it that way is always ok.

Saying, "You should have.....(waited for ult) (warded first)(smited better)" can be flagged as negative by the IFS, because the past can't be changed. Remember to focus your comments on the future, not the past.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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Valid reports slow down your honor growth drastically. So, to gain honor requires not being validly reported.

Reports seem to be considered valid if there is ANY negativity in the chat log. That means that there are some common behaviors that on their own is not enough to earn a penalty, but is enough to remove your honor.

Therefore completely avoid:

Saying that you're reporting someone. Asking for other people to report someone. Accusing anyone of afk/trolling/feeding/flaming/ect. Threatening to afk/troll/feed/ect. Saying that you're muting someone. Linking anyone's KDA to highlight their deaths. Using EZ or any of it's offshoots at any point in the game. Insulting anyone. That includes "Just saying" or "It's the truth, not an insult"

/Edit 1 From careful consideration of Red posts and all the honor milestone posts (when honor was new and people talked about the specifics of when they hit 3/4/5) it seems very likely that being honored counts very little toward honor growth, and the biggest honor gains are from playing a game and the "everyone on the team honored someone" bonus. So don't worry about farming upvotes in your matches.

/Edit 2 If you want to criticize a bad play, that can also be considered negative, but if you word it as, "Next time do XXXXX" or "Next time wait for my ult to be up" ect. Communicating a plan that will help you win/do better is what chat was made for, so using it that way is always ok.

Saying, "You should have.....(waited for ult) (warded first)(smited better)" can be flagged as negative by the IFS, because the past can't be changed. Remember to focus your comments on the future, not the past.

I don't know if the "reports are considered valid if there is any negativity but not enough to punish still" (paraphrased obviously) is an assumption or not, but it makes perfect sense. Good thought.

Jorencice1 votes

The problem is you have ALOT of tiers to climb.

You need to go from

Two weeks > one week > chat ban > smaller chat ban > honor zero

So you have almost 5 tiers to drop.

ModPeriscope4 votes

There isn't a punishment that lasts a week.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

There are 7, indeed, 7 day bans. I have yet to hear about anyone getting it, but riot has hinted at 7 day bans before. So they must exist.

AJStarhiker3 votes

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There are 7, indeed, 7 day bans. I have yet to hear about anyone getting it, but riot has hinted at 7 day bans before. So they must exist.

There used to be 7-day bans. I believe they were removed the when Riot experimented with rolling chat bans and never added back in when they moved the the tier system.

They were also one of the LeaverBuster penalties before LPQ was instituted.

YerroFever1 votes

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008474148-Honor-FAQ

There is no definite time stated in the support section... but I recall a few posts on the forums saying dishonorable can last for however long it's determined you aren't improving but the average time for people to get out of dishonorable status for 2 week ban punishments are anywhere from 3-6 months?

Tactrix1 votes

In other words there's no actual way to get out, what he failed to tell you that in those 3-6 months you'll get banned, so you might as well make a new account now.

YerroFever2 votes

Unfortunately you should probably know what you're talking about before actually posting...

So here's one of the red posts I was referring to, it's made by tantram:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/iLcIFjP0-how-permanent-ban-works?comment=000e

3 months is the average amount of time it takes to get an account into a better status from a 14-day ban. It is not a fixed number. There is no magic 3 month check the decrements your status. It is entirely related to your behavior.

The simple answer is to just stop being a jerk, stop doing the stuff that got you banned, and you will never have anything to worry about.

To the OP:

So yes, there is a way out but if you've been at 5 months, probably means you either had a really really bad 14 day ban reason or you've been slipping along the way and although haven't risen to punishment levels, you've been flagged as not yet reformed and need of further monitoring.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

I am honor level 2 after a ridiculous 14-day ban for my first ever "warning" on a near 6 year old account.

The ban happened a month and a half ago I believe. I had to play ALOT of games.

Tactrix1 votes

The short answer is no. There is no way to get out of that rating, the long answer is noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Telephone Booth2 votes

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The short answer is no. There is no way to get out of that rating, the long answer is noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Lmao. The long answer xD

Bruh im ok1 votes

playing AI matches give you honors easily so you can play with newbies and carry them i don't talk and helping time, putting pings for a team.. you can get honor 3 less than 3 days

themachamp1 votes

For some dumb reason, going from 0-2 takes SO much longer than going from 2-5. I know of one account that has been hard stuck honor level 1 for 6 months after one 10 game chat restrict >>

Resolution1 votes

It will take roughly 4-6 months, but a single report towards you can actually extend the progress needed. Basically, you can't even have a slip up in this state. Goodluck, very few people ever make it back from it.

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