Wow downvotes and boards...

woodvsmurph··3 votes·588 views

I'm really getting fed up with people just spam downvoting stuff for no reason. If people don't leave a post and feedback on why they dislike something, they should really be banned from downvoting it. Let me give examples and explain why.

  1. A few days ago, I see people post some vids of their games. They give a few comments on the vid, ask for feedback from boards, and generally go untouched. A few comments by boards, and maybe a few upvoted or no upvote/downvote. I post a vid and get spam downvoted, 1 comment of a person who liked it, and nothing. How many actually good things get lost to jerks who just read a title or spam downvote for no reason - never to be seen by the rest of the community because it's on page 100 of that board?

  2. I post a breakdown of a boosting strat I ran into just today. I give an accurate assessment of it's purpose and strengths as well as ways to best survive and/or counter it. 2 min later, spam downvoting, no comments. There's nothing offensive in what I said. It's not some "this is op" with no description of what/why/how post. It's informative. It's accurate. It's relevant. But some idiots decide to downvote. Like what is the point of your downvote? There is no purpose other than to be a jerk. If there were a valid complaint, then you post a comment and create DISCUSSION. People just meaninglessly downvoting out of spite or to be a jerk really need to be removed from commenting on the boards.

18 Comments

archerno113 votes

[poppy-wink] Downvoted

I Hate Bees3 votes

[slayer-jinx-wink] Upvoted

Squidwards House1 votes

middlevoted [slayer-jinx-catface]

FlyingRoboticCow3 votes

I'm one of the people who down voted your other post and the reason i down voted it is because the post was nonsense its not going to be an op boosting strategy its counter able with a halfway decent jungler and or a ward. Honestly if it had been a strategy that looked even remotely viable and not easy to beat I wouldn't have down voted but if you're "boosting strategy" involves playing a shit jungler that will get slapped around by literally any meta jungler then its not a good strategy. It's not people just being a jerk it's people seeing a huge flaw in your logic and responding with a downvote. That being said people (including myself) are going to down vote this because it's complaining about downvotes.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Thanks for having the decency to post. I applaud and appreciate that.

As for the reasoning though, not true. Trist can aoe the small camps pretty easily with how strong he is right now. After an item, farming jg is easy. So it sucks first clear sure, but that's about it; plenty of junglers (j4 for example - a meta pick) have weak first clear.

As for the strat of camping top. It 100% works in anything gold and below with the average team. Trist will do 1/5 to 1/3 the tower damage every time the wave hits top tower unless the enemy jungler is there to counter-gank and force her away. This easily means first tower in the typical game where jungle is more concerned about optimized farming than about ganking - plus if they do gank, it's usually bot or occasionally mid. Thus, first tower, cs advantage, and ability to roam the map and 2 man gank a lane whenever they've pushed in; or just keep getting towers top. Sure, a smart jungler will rotate and punish, but that's not the typical jungler in gold and below.

Thus, this is a completely viable strat. If farming jungle were the issue, you could totally swap and make trist top. Not as good as vayne top vs a tank/bruiser tbh, but still viable.

FlyingRoboticCow2 votes

what i mean by it being nonviable is that any halfway decent jungler in the meta right now would eat trist alive during her first clear and she'd lose both buffs and a couple of camps for it and probably end up with a few deaths to boot so it wouldn't matter if she goes to top lane. Its the reason amumu never use to see any play out side of low elo in the jungle because if you take his blue from him or punish his extremely weak early clear your jungler would be several levels ahead of them and could kill him at will. If i'm playing lee and see trist jungle im going to murder her at one of her buffs and theres nothing she can do to stop me and then imma take that buff start warding her jungle and just shit inside her soul.

woodvsmurph1 votes

That's nice and I'm glad you have such good junglers. You see mine spend 15 min ff their jungle, doing horrible invades when they have no backup, ignoring free kills on overextended people with 200hp and no flash, and if they do gank, they gank at literally the worst time through areas I've already told them are warded. They tower dive instead of waiting 4 sec for a minion wave. They camp a lane with 0 kill pressure instead of the lane with a free snowball.

I've seen this everywhere in my climb from bronze to gold. Higher elo may be different. Other people in bronze-gold might be in groups with better junglers. But I have to admit that while I am a mediocre jungler (top and support main; jg occasionally to mix it up), I am generally 10x better than the junglers in my games at jungling. So, when I know what bronze - gold junglers are like from all my seasons of play - I can safely say this would NOT be punished in the TYPICAL game at any of these elo's. Sure SOME junglers are actually good - much better than me or at least as good - and they would punish such a pick like you say. But sadly, the vast majority would NOT.

So to be clear here - I'm not disagreeing with your claim that trist jungle is "bad" or can be easiliy punished. I am however arguing that in the majority of cases up to at least gold elo it WON'T be punished. (Clearly it can - I explained in my post that it was punished and how).

FlyingRoboticCow1 votes

people tend to remember the bad not the good just like everyone complains about games they lose to afk's but never seem to remember the games they win because of them

woodvsmurph1 votes

It's not an exaggeration. You can watch the vid yourself and see mid, bot, and sup combined to be 1/19/1 at one point. And it's not just that game.

Back in Feb/Mar was the worst point - 2 weeks of 90% auto-loss. Like I'm winning a 1v2 while all other lanes feed and jungler afk farms and refuses to gank top or will camp for a feeding lane and do stupid invades with no backup and feed. Sure one in 10 games, I did badly - if you had 18+ losses in 2 weeks no matter how well you played, the tilt is bound to hit you at some point. But even when I would be 3/0/0 in a 1v2, even when i roamed to try to help teammates, even when I split or grouped... nothing could carry such teammates. It hasn't been QUITE that bad since then, but it's gotten way closer than it ever should.

And it's not people losing lane or feeding per say that I have a problem with. Clearly the game can still be won; it's people who refuse to adjust their poor play and do what the TEAM needs. I'll gladly die every fight if it means my team wins the game. I'll be camped all game and just stall them out and let my team 4v3 kill the enemy nexus. If I'm doing poorly, very tilted, and feeding, I don't run out all agro and try to solo kill my opponent. I don't run around without vision by myself and try to catch up in farm. I listen to someone on my team who is not tilted off the face of the earth. I do what is best for the TEAM even if it's not the most fun for me or what I WANT to do. I don't just "remember the bad". I'm not exaggerating. Literally 10x more likely to have 1+ feeding lane on my team than one on the enemy team. And even then, the enemy who feeds is generally smart enough to not play stupidly agro and keep feeding; they let their team carry them.

DrCyanide3 votes

If people don't leave a post and feedback on why they dislike something, they should really be banned from downvoting it.

Yeah, no. Just like I don't have to explain my upvote, I don't need to explain my downvote.

Shadòw2 votes

Downvoted

hehe xd

Aseeraa2 votes

I gave you an upvote. So many downvotes for relevant posts and half the posts that are upvoted are really troll.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Thanks*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

zPOOPz1 votes

Have an upvote to boost my karma for all those time i downvoted those banned people who are so toxic in their own discussion thread I didnt respect them enough to hit reply.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Gracias.

Packun Flower1 votes

They say the voting system serves as a way to express the communties collevtive opinion of the subject at hand. And while thats okay in theory it really is just a tool for trolls to abuse and in the end i would like to see it removed. But lets be honest, that wont ever happen.

UnboundHades1 votes

It just enforces circle Jerks and band wagons

Míellá1 votes

[poppy-wink]
Get downvoted son.

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