Seriously i got 10 game chat banned for this?

F1uttershy2075·Jan 23, 2020·5 votes·2,743 views

Seriously this is Chat Suspending?

Game - 1 I had a Yi who and Zyra who int fed that game. Non stop making the entire game un winnable even after game chat Zyra admitted that her and YI were int feeding. (this is the shit people rage about people purposely trolling on throw away accounts to get those on main accounts in trouble for getting frustrated)

Game 2 - Seriously Again i have a malz spamming " NAsus is hacking using Cheating hacks." all game long feeding nasus kills then lets him free farm all game long while he spams this over and over..

Game 3. - i pretty much said nothing not sure how i got reported there but ok.

So Update. I cut a few things out like the Rioter name viewing my case but this was basically the result of what i was told.

I've taken some time to go through your logs and I'll admit, I’m really sorry you had to deal with that kind of behavior. I’ll take a look at the match and follow up with any players who were negative and make sure appropriate actions were taken. I’m sorry to say, but when it comes to the placement of this penalty, I don't have great news. I won’t be able to reduce this for you, but I want to take this time to provide you with context as to why this penalty has been applied and tips to prevent any future ones when faced with these types of games.

After taking some time to look through your chat, it does look like there was quite a lot of typing. When queuing up for a match, we all have the same goal in mind and that's to get a win. Communicating with your teammates is absolutely critical in helping your team achieve victory but sometimes typing too much can be more of a hindrance - rather than helpful.

If other players are causing issues in your game, please do make liberal use of your mute function. Players often forget how powerful this simple feature can change the course of the match.

Short phrases like:“Ult soon, ward dragon”, "Catch somebody out there, wait with me", are really effective and get straight to the point. In addition, I'd suggest using smart pings and emotes when you need to communicate quickly. The less time we spend in chat, the more time we can think about executing a plan of action.

so in short... I was suspended from chat.. Not for being negative. But, instead i was punished cause i type to much.

The frick? In-Game F1uttershy2075: bg muting team and pings F1uttershy2075: you feed two early kills and then blame us for your bad mistakes and being behind? F1uttershy2075: we agreeing to surrender at 15? F1uttershy2075: muting team and pings then .. just farming F1uttershy2075: no idea how you are suppose to climb out of bronze this season F1uttershy2075: he's int feeding along with this zyra. just let it go not worth it F1uttershy2075: dude you didn't even get one support item F1uttershy2075: ... F1uttershy2075: nuff said F1uttershy2075: no we need to click yes on surrender F1uttershy2075: meh we got 2 int feeders just pls win and not be toxic F1uttershy2075: not really just int feeding zyra and yi are broken F1uttershy2075: i don't deserve this team.. jesus.. christ.. i hate ranked this season F1uttershy2075: of course the duo queue votes no. F1uttershy2075: pretty sure the zyra and yi are F1uttershy2075: same.. just these two int feeders made it impossible to even try to carry F1uttershy2075: its just what ever.. just report them after. sucks that riot won't do any thing about people making throw away accounts to troll F1uttershy2075: Yas hush.. F1uttershy2075: seriously got a jungle that was handing you kills with this support Game 2 In-Game F1uttershy2075: i'm done F1uttershy2075: muting team and pings bg F1uttershy2075: grats on your win F1uttershy2075: wouldn't sweat it nasus you easily won that lane.. gj F1uttershy2075: ok i'll bite how is his account getting banned? F1uttershy2075: honestly i'd care.. but malz is just trolling .. i'm done with this match F1uttershy2075: what kinda sucks is now i see why its so dang hard to get out of bronze from iron.. every other game you got a troll in it F1uttershy2075: honestly ashe chill.. F1uttershy2075: games pretty much over.. just focus on working on your CS F1uttershy2075: ashe pls chill out F1uttershy2075: sorry nasus i refuse to give out a perfect game F1uttershy2075: other then that you easily got the win GJ on countering him F1uttershy2075: don't worry about it.. F1uttershy2075: ashe chill F1uttershy2075: i'm going to enjoy reporting malz i really am F1uttershy2075: you know all stuff aside if malz wasn't purposely trolling we could have easily won this F1uttershy2075: not really just is when you get to free farm F1uttershy2075: BG Game 3 In-Game F1uttershy2075: yea i'm done muting team and pings F1uttershy2075: better team i suppose F1uttershy2075: bg grats on your win F1uttershy2075: seriously who voted no.. F1uttershy2075: i'm trash .. F1uttershy2075: you literally lost 3 kills to a riven top lane.. F1uttershy2075: you know what nvm.. i'm not even going to deal with thi s. back to muting you guys F1uttershy2075: we have to win to throw

51 Comments

SubdueJan 23, 20206 votes

I think if you actually muted when you said you were muting, you wouldn't have this problem.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20202 votes

team was muted. I was talking to the enemy most the time who would talk to me.

But maybe muting every one period is the proper way to go instead.

SubdueJan 23, 20203 votes

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team was muted. I was talking to the enemy most the time who would talk to me.

But maybe muting every one period is the proper way to go instead.

Yea, when you lack self control that's usually the best bet.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20201 votes

Then that is some thing i will take into consideration. Thank you

JustA kleoJan 23, 20202 votes

nope. don take it into consideration. DO IT!

rujitraJan 23, 20205 votes

You literally spent the entirety of each of these three games flaming teammates and/or saying things like "bad game" - which is not useful or constructive.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20202 votes

saying bad game isn't a chat suspension worthy sorry least that's my opinion

As for flaming. ??? i was upset, i don't flame people who just have a bad game or i would be reported long long ago.. But when some one is literally running kills to the enemy mid, and Jungler purposely that is very frustrating. i didn't curse or scream or belittle i just vented cause yes it is frustrating to watch people literally throw a game purposely.

the malz did nothing but spam chat all game long " I'm going to report you nasus for Damage hacking" Non stop every 3 minutes non stop it i even tried to calm the ashe down and settle the team down.. heck me and nasus even had a good conversation after the game.

i mean these people where 100% purposely ruining peoples experience .. How can people not get upset at this?

rujitraJan 23, 20205 votes

Sorry, but nowhere in the Summoner's Code does it say that F1uttershy2075's opinion is the law.

It doesn't matter that you were upset. You don't get to break the rules and flame other people just because you're upset.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20201 votes

never said it was the law i just said it was my opinion. As for the point of you can't get upset i guess you're right, i guess even getting frustrated about people purposely ruining your game isn't acceptable.

i mean yea its my first punishment just kinda sucks its because i got upset for people ruining my game.. and not me just being a total tard.

rujitraJan 23, 20205 votes

To be quite blunt with you, there is no difference in anyone else's mind between a "total tard" and someone who flames others because they're upset. If I had to pick a phrase to describe your behavior, even knowing that you were upset, "total tard" would fit it. I guarantee you you are tilting yourself out of easily winnable games by having this attitude and behaving in this way.

Learn to control your emotions and stop acting like everyone else has to deal with you - or at a bare minimum learn to control your actions. I don't give a flying fuck what you say/do in real life while you play - and nor does Riot. What Riot and other players care about is when your frustration begins to impact our game experience with your flaming/abuse/negativity.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20202 votes

look i'm just agreeing to disagree, down voting my posts just cause you don't agree is childish.

personally people play this game for fun and to enjoy a game after work. Its a competitive game with a some what competitive environment Which i get, but my point as stated is i don't feel the suspension fits the crime again my personal opinion.

I can vent it i cant try to challenge it its my right to be upset. But again as stated, i don't think players who Purposely entice other players to get upset and rage isn't fair nor right. Maybe riot doesn't care, but i personally think they should.

rujitraJan 23, 20207 votes

I haven't downvoted any of your posts.

https://puu.sh/F2Ls3/d067ba97ab.png

You can see that the vote is not green or red for your posts. What's childish is that you are continuing to insult me here by calling me childish for something I didn't even do.

You getting mad at someone doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. Players are not going to be punished simply for having a bad game or making decisions you disagree with.

KFCeytronJan 23, 20204 votes

You announce that it's a bad game, announce that you're muting people, accuse people of inting, nag people to surrender, announce that you've given up, accuse people of trolling, announce how you're going to enjoy reporting someone, and just generally spend most of your time flaming and arguing and making chat an unpleasant place to be. That breaks the rules you agreed to when you made your account. The consequences for that are the same whether you like the rules or not.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20201 votes

Announcing that its a bad game and you are muting players. 1 is not breaking a rule.

Yes its a bad game experience when some one int feeds kills, and informing my team i'm muting pings and chat is not offensive in any way its stating that " hey i'm going to mute you guys" yes i said i would enjoy reporting some one, i can voice my opinion on my actions when some one is purposely ruining a game for their own enjoy ment.

as for spending most my time flaming. umm chat logs only show one persons chats not the entire games worth of chatting. infact most those games i was pretty silent till the enemy team or other team members chatted in which i responded or conversed with them.

KFCeytronJan 23, 20203 votes

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Announcing that its a bad game and you are muting players. 1 is not breaking a rule.

Yes its a bad game experience when some one int feeds kills, and informing my team i'm muting pings and chat is not offensive in any way its stating that " hey i'm going to mute you guys" yes i said i would enjoy reporting some one, i can voice my opinion on my actions when some one is purposely ruining a game for their own enjoy ment.

as for spending most my time flaming. umm chat logs only show one persons chats not the entire games worth of chatting. infact most those games i was pretty silent till the enemy team or other team members chatted in which i responded or conversed with them.

It is breaking a rule. We're not asking you. You were the one who asked us. And we are telling you that you broke the rules. Whining in chat about "bg" is indeed offensive and against the rules. Stating that you're going to mute someone is annoying and against the rules. Most of your behavior in chat was negative and rule-breaking.

You certainly can voice your opinion, but Riot can also hand out consequences for it if you do it on their platform in a way that breaks their rules.

Most of your time chatting was spent flaming. Being silent instead of saying positive things doesn't remove the negative things.

It doesn't matter what you think of your punishment or the rules or any of this, because LoL is owned by Riot and not you. If they tell you not to behave in a certain way or you'll get punishments up to and including losing your account, that's what's gonna happen. It's up to you to change and keep your account... or not.

Dr Cat PoochJan 24, 20201 votes

The report screen literally lists "NEGATIVE ATTITUDE" as a basis for reporting. Having this negative of an attitude poisons the atmosphere of the game.

Additionally, for the millionth time, no context allows you to be negative without consequences. It doesn't matter what the other teammates said. You, as an individual, are expected to behave. Report them and let them face their consequences, but their bad behavior doesn't make your bad behavior any less wrong.

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20203 votes

Remember when you wrote this just a few hours ago?

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Seriously line 4 was enough after that.. one to get punished period Game two you calle some one a SHHHHHSTAIN like hate to break it to you . but umm purposely miss typing curse words doesn't help.

Game three throwing some ones stats and being toxic and demanding they get reported.. -.- that's re portable too.

soo yea you completely deserved that

There is a little something called karma and she sure is a bitch! [slayer-jinx-wink]

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20201 votes

Not really but it does show the huge scale in what’s consider toxic From riot so lesson learned

If I’m right you had called your team member r%%%%%ed and you called your team a shtttstorm

Soo yeaaa

UpgradesJan 23, 20203 votes

Just take this a warning and just change the behavior before things get really bad, because you next punishment is a 25 game chat restrict, then a 14 day ban, then a permanent ban! Your honor will climb faster from a 10 game chat ban than from a ban (from experience). This is just a slap on the wrist. But just make sure you heed this as a warning

Kei143Jan 23, 20203 votes

Uhhh.. I was sure I've explained the system to you before, but I don't see what your post history is like, so I don't remember your contents.

An attitude of giving up is a punishable offense. That attitude can be seen in all three of the games you posted.

Just because you lose laning phase doesn't mean the game is lost. People are bad at mid game macro and there are plenty of ways to comeback.

LeafieGreens2Jan 23, 20202 votes

Dude I feel for you. Got hit with my apparently now yearly 10-game chat restriction again this year as I've been slogging my way out of bronze.

Had a duo on my team who teamed up on me and turned the entire team against me. I was ADC and my Senna support kept taking CS, literally purposely denying me farm by last hitting whatever I was trying to kill. Then flaming me and calling me names, etc.

I lost my cool and called him a "fking moron" and then these 2 spent the rest of the game flaming me, then they campaigned in /all chat to 9x report me. I stopped chatting altogether and muted them, but knew that the damage was done. They had me if they got enough reports on me.

3 games later I got hit with the restriction and my honor is back to level 1. Damn.

Oh well. On the plus side, after the punishment I've won every game and already got through the 10 game restriction. But damn, playing through bronze back to silver is a pain when you are stuck with perma-bronze and iron players who obviously don't care, have no idea what they are doing, and enjoy tilting their own teammates. It's a real test of patience and I'm sure we aren't alone in the normally chill players who lose their patience and their cool and then get hit with punishments.

I just hope to hit Honor 2 before clash starts. My team is relying on me at ADC. I'm feelin the shame when I have to tell them I got punished. rip

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

rujitraJan 23, 20207 votes

They had me if they got enough reports on me.

Not a factor at all. More reports does not make you get punished. Period. Your behavior is the only thing that matters.

LeafieGreens2Jan 23, 20203 votes

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Not a factor at all. More reports does not make you get punished. Period. Your behavior is the only thing that matters.

rujitra, a couple things ---

This reply is the reason why you lost your mod privileges. Your condescending attitude is really frustrating and tilting.
I take responsibility for what I said. And in my past experience when I got punished it was from an exactly similar situation like this where I was the 1 random player on a team of trolling premades who griefed and flamed me until I responded and then they got both teams to report me. I even put a support ticket in on it and the kind Riot support person understood and agreed with me.

Peace dude. Hope you find joy in life somewhere. You certainly know how to incite people here in the Player Behavior boards.

ModPeriscopeJan 23, 20205 votes

No, multiple reports do not increase the likelihood of a punishment. I’m not sure how else that should be conveyed.

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20202 votes

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No, multiple reports do not increase the likelihood of a punishment. I’m not sure how else that should be conveyed.

Wrong, they do.

NF RemiliaJan 23, 20201 votes

I have 2k reports on my main account and i havent been punished once. Not even a chat restriction. All these reports are false one , i never break the summoner code.

ModPeriscopeJan 23, 20204 votes

“ It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player”

But, you’re free to believe otherwise.

F1uttershy2075Jan 23, 20202 votes

i think what he was stating was he had the reported from his behavior cause as he admitted to calling the person a fking moron. so in his statement he is correct he had a valid report to get popped with it.

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20202 votes

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Not a factor at all. More reports does not make you get punished. Period. Your behavior is the only thing that matters.

One report triggers a review but multiple reports lead to a higher likelihood of a punishment.

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20204 votes

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but multiple reports lead to a higher likelihood of a punishment.

Got a source on that? Because according to the official support page, "Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player".

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20202 votes

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Got a source on that? Because according to the official support page, "Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player".

I don't care if you believe me or not because it's true. And Riot isn't going to publicly state the specific of their system so people can exploit it.

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20203 votes

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I don't care if you believe me or not because it's true. And Riot isn't going to publicly state the specific of their system so people can exploit it.

Sounds like something someone without any proof would say. I'm not going to believe the person who thought this was being punished for "no reason".

You have firmly demonstrated that you don't know the behavioral rules. I'm not about to trust you at face value about any other part of the behavioral system, neither should anyone else.

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20202 votes

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Sounds like something someone without any proof would say. I'm not going to believe the person who thought this was being punished for "no reason".

You have firmly demonstrated that you don't know the behavioral rules. I'm not about to trust you at face value about any other part of the behavioral system, neither should anyone else.

You're wrong but that's ok, nbd.

rujitraJan 23, 20202 votes

You’re wrong but that’s ok, nbd.

But if you keep intentionally spreading misinformation on the boards, then the mods will likely remove your ability to post here.

Mald Over PixelsJan 23, 20201 votes

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You’re wrong but that’s ok, nbd.

But if you keep intentionally spreading misinformation on the boards, then the mods will likely remove your ability to post here.

Huh they don't do that though. No Rioter who works with the IFS would ever outright deny that (unless they were lying), which is why they always conveniently word it in a way that only one report is needed to "trigger a review"

CharDeeMcDennizJan 23, 20203 votes

you REALLY need to embrace the idea that you're not actually right about everything

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

I actually agree with Maid. Multiple reports definitely do the triggering, Riot just doesn't want to encourage people to "gang up on reports". People would do that if they knew it worked, so Riot acts as the multiple reports are not part of the algorithm.

CharDeeMcDennizJan 23, 20202 votes

jesus...[zombie-brand-facepalm]

what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to pull off to think a multi-million dollar, international company is straight up lying to the players on their own support page?

wow...just wow

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

I believe they are doing it with good intentions.

CharDeeMcDennizJan 23, 20202 votes

literally makes ZERO SENSE

i explained it in my other response to you

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20202 votes

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I actually agree with Maid. Multiple reports definitely do the triggering, Riot just doesn't want to encourage people to "gang up on reports". People would do that if they knew it worked, so Riot acts as the multiple reports are not part of the algorithm.

If multiple reports were part of the algorithm we would not see cases where people are banned while part of a 4-man pre-made.

It's not unheard of for someone to come to the board confused about their ban because they didn't think that it was punishable if the chat wasn't directed at the person reporting (and all their friends were fine with the verbal roughhousing).

If it took multiple reports for the system to spot those games those people would never had been punished for their chat.

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

I believe single reports ARE valid, I'm just saying that multiple reports increase the probability action will be taken.

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20202 votes

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I believe single reports ARE valid, I'm just saying that multiple reports increase the probability action will be taken.

And your proof of this is....?

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

This is my opinion and what I suspect.

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20203 votes

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This is my opinion and what I suspect.

Based on no real proof nor logical standpoint.

Keep in mind, the system is largely automatic. If the system relied on manual reviews your opinion would have some foundation to work on since it would make sense to prioritize games with multiple reports to save review hours because they're less likely to be frivolous when multiple individuals report someone and

But it's not. It's a computer scanning the logs so there is no need worry about saving time. It would actually take more effort to program a system that has multiple levels of priority based on how many reports were issued in a game compared to one that just checks if a report was made.

Prioritizing games with multiple reports only result in negative effects for such a system because that would mean that games where one person is harassed by many would more likely get overlooked.

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

I disagree and I see what you are saying. A lot of people get reported and suspended without saying ANY bad words, but simply arguing. It's difficult for a computer to tell whether one person just dislikes someone and reports them or if the talking was truly disruptive. If multiple people who are not partied up make a report, the algorithm can assign it a higher probability of being disruptive. It takes no more system resources.

AeroWaffleJan 23, 20202 votes

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I disagree and I see what you are saying. A lot of people get reported and suspended without saying ANY bad words, but simply arguing.

That doesn't support your argument (and is based on opinion that the people didn't deserve the punishments). Quite the opposite since such people are far less likely to be reported multiple times in a game.

It's difficult for a computer to tell whether one person just dislikes someone and reports them or if the talking was truly disruptive.

Again, if that were true I wouldn't have seen cases where someone in a 4-man comes to the board about their punishment because the 5th reported.

If multiple people who are not partied up make a report, the algorithm can assign it a higher probability of being disruptive. It takes no more system resources.

Once again, it would take more time to program the system that way and a more complicated algorithm. Still logic points against your theory as well as all the statements from Riot.

Happy MustacheJan 23, 20201 votes

"That doesn't support your argument (and is based on opinion that the people didn't deserve the punishments). Quite the opposite since such people are far less likely to be reported multiple times in a game."

Actually I'm wrong on this one. Arguing is punishable behavior.

"Again, if that were true I wouldn't have seen cases where someone in a 4-man comes to the board about their punishment because the 5th reported."

I never said single reports weren't also taken into account.

"Once again, it would take more time to program the system that way and a more complicated algorithm."

The upfront cost of coding to make multiple reports have a higher value than a single report, and the continuous cost of doing that algorithm is extremely minimal. Unless you're not a computer guy, you know this already. If you didn't know it before, you know now.

fatherdariusJan 23, 20201 votes

So... after your chat restriction, you proceeded to win more games?

I'm not suggesting YOU are the determining factor here (other people can obviously type in chat and cause someone else to tilt), but maybe less chat is a good thing? For you, at least?

(I'm being serious, not being snarky)

A lot of players swear by turning off the chat (either ALL-CHAT or even team-chat) and insist it makes their games more enjoyable. It sounds like that may be a benefit to your ranked-climb. And double bonus: while you're climbing, you're unlikely to get further chat-related punishment if you avoid the chat.

Just my thoughts. 'Cuz logic.

JustA kleoJan 23, 20202 votes

chat restriction* not a chat ban.