Yeah, it's also "just my time being wasted" because you're too selfish of a player to care about your fellow teammates and fuck around. You wouldn't like me sitting you in a corner facing the damn wall for 30 minutes would you? No, and if you honestly get personal satisfaction from doing that alone, then you are just far from help.
Mindspeaker7 votesit is just a video game ...even in ranked
If you don't like how normal random people play don't play with random people
yes there will be immature uncivilized players who have nothing better to do with their time other than intentionally ruining others games .You need to learn to just ignore them realize they will cost you games at times if you choose to play solo que that is one of the inherent risks as well
So really given both those points...........you only have yourself to blame if you feel your time is being wasted and you still join a solo que.
the only one being selfish is you for expecting others to see the game as you do.
Find people who think like you and form a premade if you don't like it.
Karunamon7 votesWith all due respect, stay the fuck out of ranked unless you're there to play and win. The whole point of that mode is the games being meaningful.
ModPeriscope3 votes"It's just a game" can be taken either two ways: justify bad behavior, or to alleviate tension.
stay the fuck out of ranked
It is still just a game and you shouldn't get this wound up about it.
Paper13 votesIf you're a player with a passion for League, or in fact in any sport/esport, then you would know that "it's just a game" is just plain irritating to hear, because it a blunt phrase that isn't true. To the person who loves and cares about the game, it isn't just a game to them. They put time and effort into the game to win, improve, have fun e.t.c. while some random guy they're teamed with probably has no idea of this and is trying to lecture them on how they should be thinking and feeling. How dare they.
ModPeriscope1 votesbecause it a blunt phrase
I think we can agree with this. Even though I gave it two distinct meanings, in game, it would be likely to be taken negatively. Further, there would be better things to say that would calm other players.
Paper11 votesI mean when taking into consideration the life, the universe and everything, then clearly it is just a game. In the moment though it's different.
I would love it if more players were articulate enough to persuade others to calm down, but unfortunately many are either young, or older but stupid.
ROCKFORD3 votesYou remind me of all the useless people in my region with that logic. Ranked is a reason to better yourself, become the best that you can be at LoL. If you want to fuck around and call it "just a game", then play normals. This is the reason why Korea is the best of the best when it comes to LoL. Because there is no fucking around in ranked, and the reason why NA teams struggle to get out of group stages. Strive for greatness.
ModPeriscope2 votesI'm just as passionate as anyone else when it comes to playing ranked, or any other game mode. All I'm saying is, that when someone gets extremely wound up, I can understand maybe a friend telling them, "It's just a game." Because in the end, there is no escaping that fact. "It's just a game" is exactly what I would say to someone who calls other people useless.
If you're saying "It's just a game/normals/ARAM" to justify continuous behavior that shows no sign of success in the game, that's where I'd have a problem.
Paper12 votesNone of the random players you meet in solo queue are your friends in response to your statement. These random guys are no better than I am if e.g. I am in the same game with them, so who are they to tell me that "it's just a game"? Nobody. All it does is annoy the person being told its just a game, when they probably have reason to already be annoyed.
ªTeemo1 votesIf it's just a game you can play normals, and since you are such a happy snowflake you will be happy to hear that by playing normals you won't ruin the experience for people who just want to rank up
Mindspeaker1 votesIf it's just a game you can play normals, and since you are such a happy snowflake you will be happy to hear that by playing normals you won't ruin the experience for people who just want to rank up
wrong.
if you read my big long post in this thread in this thread talking about that explain why ....
here i ll give you a sneak peak.
Simply put Some players simply play ranked not because they care about "ranked prestige" but because it is more "profitable" than playing normal.... for example would someone get a champ / ward skin from playing normal all year ...no ...they would get nothing but the "normal rewards" you get from playing any match.
Mindspeaker1 votesWith all due respect, stay the fuck out of ranked unless you're there to play and win. The whole point of that mode is the games being meaningful.
request denied . thanks for the laugh LOL
TheProfezzor1 votesI agree with this and OP. When I’m matched with someone who isn’t even remotely close to my skill level, like they can’t help but die in lane without enemy jgler ganks, it’s extremely frustrating and I take it as them wasting my time.
Bad luck is bad luck. But I can determine if you have good mechanics and will make up for it later in game. Sometimes they can, other times we might as wells ff 3 min in.
Paper12 votesI'd love to see you try finding ten, non-random (?) people to play a LoL game with on a regular basis.
If people are intentionally ruining games, then likely this breaks the rules and should be recognised and reported. Ignoring it means these people don't get punished, and the behaviour continues.
Also, a game set up with premades is a different game that the one in solo queue because of the draft phase. Players should not have to accept bad behaviour from others because they prefer the game "type" of solo queue. Either they follow the etiquette of playing competitively and seriously in a queue designed for that, or they don't and risk getting banned.
Mindspeaker1 votes
I'd love to see you try finding ten, non-random (?) people to play a LoL game with on a regular basis.
If people are intentionally ruining games, then likely this breaks the rules and should be recognised and reported. Ignoring it means these people don't get punished, and the behaviour continues.
Also, a game set up with premades is a different game that the one in solo queue because of the draft phase. Players should not have to accept bad behaviour from others because they prefer the game "type" of solo queue. Either they follow the etiquette of playing competitively and seriously in a queue designed for that, or they don't and risk getting banned.
2 Agreed they should be reported... privately ..at the end of the game but during the game you are REQUIRED according to Riots behavioral policy to ignore and not respond to anything that you don't like in game including players legitimately breaking the rules. Verbal abuser , intentional feeders, afkers are always going to exist and you are always going to lose games because of them. If you can't handle that and accept it as part of the "risk" of joying solo que
they follow the etiquette of playing competitively and seriously in a queue designed for that, or they don't and risk getting banned.
this made me laugh...you cannot be banned for not taking ranked "competitive or seriously." if you think you can ...LOL facepalm there is a section below in where I discuss this lol.
It does n not matter what players "Should not have to put up with" its about the reality of the situation if you cant handle reality that is again your issue
here is my standard copy and paste reply for those who think everyone should take ranked seriously....
Ohh look a person ranting about ranked..... and how everyone should play according to how they think it is... and what they think the requierments should be and how they should be able to react etc etc etc ....yawwwwwnnnnnn....
over 3 years of this ...and people wonder why I copy paste sooo
without further ado ...here is the copy paste for rank ranters...
First of all anyone is free to play any champ in any role with any strategy. Champ select is not trolling in any way at any time
WookieeCookie (NA) - 8 months ago
Let’s re-iterate our stance from before:
Q: Can I get banned for choosing a champion or strategy that is outside the current meta?
A: 100% no. Choosing a champion or strategy outside of the current meta is not a factor we take into account when reviewing accounts. On any given day tens of thousands of players are making unusual picks in the game and they’ll never receive penalties in any form.
Please don't bring up singed or nunu...what happened there at the very most was a EXCEPTION to the rule it does not in any way invalidate the above
No your quote but it another misconception of players joining solo que .....
it`s all about being a team and play as 5
If you go into solo que expecting that it will have the same cohesiveness and team play as a premade there is your problem right there ... here is why
That is one of the reasons mute is so good . People stress out too much over what everyone elese is doing instead doing .
Its actually quite common to even have to ping mute some pme because they are stressing out tooo much,
These are the _ACTUAL FACTS _of random que:
People will not have the same views as you
They will not take ranked as a serious as you. Some actually realize this is just a VIDEO GAME
Some people play ranked because its more worthwhile than normal I really could care less about rank "prestige" or "LP"
Example: some people play ranked because at the very least they get free skin and ward at the end ... do they get that playing normal ...nooo you get nothing, So why would they ?
I actually have fun win OR lose , even if there is a feeder or afk if we are getting stomped or doing the stomping and I ALWAYS vote no. I don't play ranked to listen to someone stress out like losing a game is the end of the universe . Its a video game the point is to HAVE FUN actually playing the game not just the outcome ..yes again even in ranked. Some time you win some times you lose LP constantly fluctuates so don't stress about it as long as you have fun you are always a winner.
There are legitimate toxic people who join games for the sole purpose of ruining it for others ( intentional feeders, afk, verbal abuse etc ) you cant get away from them. Its mind boggling some who choose to spend their time ruining other people games but there are some really immature uncivilized people in this world that will log on to do just that. You just have to assume your going to get one when you hit the solo que button and prepare for it . If you don't its a bonus,
Riot does not enforce Meta or champ " roles" or strategy in any mode at any level.
There is no "unskilled" if you don't like how someone is playing its is up to YOU to leave solo que not anyone else ,
Riot themselves have stated that no one would ever be punished for non meta non role champ choice.
That means anyone is free to play any champ in any role at any time that is NOT being a troll breaking the summoners code,
you are also allowed to play " 1st time champs" in ranked as well.
Also there is no refusing to communicate - so someone who doesn't listen to you is not being a troll either . No one will be punished for muting the team and not speaking in chat so if you think you can report someone for refusing to communicate your wrong. they are NOT doing anything breaking the summoners code or riots rules either
Riot Tantram (NA) - 2 years ago
A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.
You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing . unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.
Seriously if you can't handle all those factors and you keep joining solo que you and your own choices are the problem so stop trying to shift the blame for YOUR displeasure on to other people when you keep choosing to play with random people
In other words...
here is the simple solution
stop playing with random people if it s stressing you out and jsut play with a premade team you "know will play to your standard and with your views on the game" in.. There is a premade option for a reason.
*Solo que Ranked ( or any mode for that matter)
is great if your definition of "fun" does not rest on the status or out come of the game but the enjoyment of simply "playing" the game regardless of what is happening during it.
If you can have fun during a game regardless if there are afk's or intentional feeders then they lose all power, winning is great everyone likes winning also if you have fun during the game the losses are still enjoyable.
( again ....no "fun" is not restricted to just normal.... anyone can join any solo que for any reason)
Simply put Some players simply play ranked not because they care about "ranked prestige" but because it is more "profitable" than playing normal.... for example would someone get a champ / ward skin from playing normal all year ...no ...they would get nothing but the "normal rewards" you get form playing any match.
so solo que is a good "fit " for that type of player
Now on the other hand if a player is taking the game to the epic level of seriousness making the outcome of the game , your rank your lp your ONLY source of enjoyment.
If you take that type of player and then they willingly and intentionally join a match with random people
You are basically spinning a roulette wheel
On that wheel are
Now if you take that and look at probability factors
The chances of the "serious player" getting 4 other "serious people " is very low
and
The probability of getting "bad people" something simply "going wrong" or even something that you simply wont like
Is higher than the probability of getting 4 other serious people
So knowing those odds why would anyone taking taking the game to that level of seriousness be surprised when you spin the wheel and lose and things don't turn out they way they think they should?
So really taking all of this into account if you REALLY want to talk about player responsibility it up to each individual player to choose the option that is the best fit for them.
Paper13 votesWith respect, I think you're throwing a rather unnecessary temper tantrum over this topic. I don't think you've really understood the point I was making either.
Your contact list is no one concern but yours if you cant make your own ranked team that is your problem not of any one else concern. If you cant do this then you have to accept a random que as random.
We're not talking about ranked teams. We're talking about your idea that if you don't like playing with random people, then don't play solo queue. My point is you cannot play league as regularly as quickly as solo queue. As soon as you want to bring in people that you know, there is time management of four other people to have to contend with. Also, people you find on e.g. The boards looking for teammates do not count as people you know.
this made me laugh...you cannot be banned for not taking ranked "competitive or seriously."
You conveniently took my quote out of context. In the previous sentence, I confirmed that I was referring to those players who behave as in point 2. Also in response to that, nothing you said was wrong, however you're making assumptions about how I think about the game which are simply not true.
For instance, nowhere have I said or suggested that I do not accept the "risks" of solo queue. I was generally saying that ignoring as an action isn't ideal from the view of trying to prevent bad behaviour in the future. Instead, we report such behaviour after the game.
From here, you write a lot of stuff that I probably only read half of it before I stopped. I'll say this. The OP didn't give you a mountain of information to argue with, and you've managed over the course of two comments between me and you to type an essay. I think you should be careful about making assumptions about how people view certain things. You're not a psychic.
I am happy to talk about specific things if you want, but I am not going to listen to somebody who wrongly interprets statements of others to support their agenda.
Mindspeaker1 votesWith respect, I think you're throwing a rather unnecessary temper tantrum over this topic. I don't think you've really understood the point I was making either.
You can believe what you want I mentioned I copy and pasted so not everything was relevant to your statement as in it wasn't just for you ..but for any one reading that shared the "its not just a video game " , "ranked is only for serious competitive" mindset that happen to be reading.
{quoted} We're not talking about ranked teams. We're talking about your idea that if you don't like playing with random people, then don't play solo queue. My point is you cannot play league as regularly as quickly as solo queue. As soon as you want to bring in people that you know, there is time management of four other people to have to contend with. Also, people you find on e.g. The boards looking for teammates do not count as people you know.
You are completely right depending on your contact list you many not be able play as quickly , consistently or efficiently with premade as you can with hitting a random que button.
My whole point is if you want to take the "quick route" you cannot blame anyone for wasting your time ( including intentional disruptions) because you choose to take said "quick route" knowing that other players may not share your views ( normal players) and another group of players exist who's only purpose in logging in is to intentionally ruin people games.
so you can believe what you want I mentioned I copy and pasted so not everything was relevant to your statement as in it wasn't just for you ..but for any one reading that shared the " ranked is only for serious competitive" mindset.
The final point is you can disagree with that if you like but the fact remains
If you don't like playing with random people ...don't put your self in that position and if you do and are unhappy with the result your really only have yourself to blame.
{quoted} I was generally saying that ignoring as an action isn't ideal from the view of trying to prevent bad behavior in the future. Instead, we report such behavior after the game.
As long as you of the opinion from a player stand point that you completely ignore said behavior in game completely ( as in not even "report X" or "mute X" type comments and privately file all Legitimate Reports at the end of the match then I totally agree with that statement
{quoted} From here, you write a lot of stuff that I probably only read half of it before I stopped. I'll say this. The OP didn't give you a mountain of information to argue with, and you've managed over the course of two comments between me and you to type an essay. I think you should be careful about making assumptions about how people view certain things. You're not a psychic.
LOL..soo much deflection....
I wasn't trying to be . I generally just cut and paste the same thing because I have been here for years and see the same rants for years like the ops original post.
{quoted} I am happy to talk about specific things if you want, but I am not going to listen to somebody who wrongly interprets statements of others to support their agenda.
My whole post ( that you said you didn't completely read ) does has a specific theme.... if you want to take a video game seriously including ranked ....don't play in solo que.
The only agenda I have had for the past 3+ years on these boards is to informed the misinformed ...that anyone can play any que for any reason (within riots set behavioral guidelines)... and if you want to play as specific way ( as in taking ranked so called "competitively/ seriously") your welcome to do that but if you join a random solo que don't expect others to seethe game as you do an no one has the right to tell anyone how they should be playing the game.
Paper11 votesMy whole point is if you want to take the "quick route" you cannot blame anyone for wasting your time because you choose to take said "quick route"
More like the only route for players who play solo and want as competitive an experience as possible, which the majority are.
So you can disagree with that if you like but the fact is if you don't like playing with random people ...don't put your self in that position and if you do and are unhappy with the result your really only have yourself to blame.
So by this logic, you're saying that if you don't want to be rightfully frustrated about random people doing random things, you shouldnt play any team based online game ever. I do not support this line of thinking.
As long as you of the opinion from a player stand point that you completely ignore said behavior in game completely ( as in not even "report X" or "mute X" type comments and privately file all Legitimate reports at the end of the match then I totally agree with that agree with that.
I partly have that opinion. I think there is more than one possible way to go about it, and there is another post on the boards at the moment where I take part in that discussion. Feel free to go there and disagree with me on that too, as many people already have.
LOL..soo much deflection....
I wasn't trying to be . I generally just cut and paste the same thing because I have been here for years and see the same rants for years like the ops original post.
Well I said that because it's the truth, but go ahead and say it's deflecting if it makes you feel better. I have likewise been a long time viewer, and off and on poster on the boards, and I've been in my fair share of discussions where the replies have rapidly lengthened exponentially to the point where it becomes difficult for the brain to take it all in.
The only agenda I have had for the past 3+ years on these boards is to informed the misinformed ...that anyone can play any que for any reason (within riots set behavioral guidelines)... and if you want to play as specific way ( as in taking ranked so called "competitively/ seriously") your welcome to do that but if you join a random solo que don't expect others to seethe game as you do an no one has the right to tell anyone how they should be playing the game.
Well I think, for example, I have the right to express my dissatisfaction at a player who claims to be playing seriously/competitively when they pick teemo bot in a diamond level game. Why? Because if they were truly playing seriously, they should have the knowledge that teemo bot is a non-meta, lower percentage chance of winning pick than a meta adc such as ezreal.
scazzman1 votesMore like the only route for players who play solo and want as competitive an experience as possible, which the majority are.
So by this logic, you're saying that if you don't want to be rightfully frustrated about random people doing random things, you shouldnt play any team based online game ever. I do not support this line of thinking.
I partly have that opinion. I think there is more than one possible way to go about it, and there is another post on the boards at the moment where I take part in that discussion. Feel free to go there and disagree with me on that too, as many people already have.
Well I said that because it's the truth, but go ahead and say it's deflecting if it makes you feel better. I have likewise been a long time viewer, and off and on poster on the boards, and I've been in my fair share of discussions where the replies have rapidly lengthened exponentially to the point where it becomes difficult for the brain to take it all in.
Well I think, for example, I have the right to express my dissatisfaction at a player who claims to be playing seriously/competitively when they pick teemo bot in a diamond level game. Why? Because if they were truly playing seriously, they should have the knowledge that teemo bot is a non-meta, lower percentage chance of winning pick than a meta adc such as ezreal.
ignore mindspeaker. he is a troll who makes patronizing copy pastas and stalks people on the boards with differing opinions. and he also deliberately leaves people off mute just so he knows who to report
Mindspeaker1 votesignore mindspeaker. he is a troll who makes patronizing copy pastas and stalks people on the boards with differing opinions. and he also deliberately leaves people off mute just so he knows who to report
lol You are as amusing as ever. thanks again for the laugh. I told you before you considering troll is where I want to be ....until you develop a more mature and civilized attitude
Maybe one day you will the the capacity and cognitive aptitude to actually comprehend one of my "copy and paste" and realize the actions/chat from certain players that talk about are the a failure on the players side form have lack of emotional stability and anger management skills ..... or simply the result of natural be in a negative toxic person in general.
Not in any way the fault of anything else people wish to blame it on.
{quoted} deliberately leaves people off mute just so he knows who to report
This is an actual factual statement ..wow coming from you that's amazing!!!!!!
You are right I like to do my part to at least help clean up the community form the types of people I have discussed
Really the only people that have to worry about me are the peole who through immature temper tantrums over the status and outcome of a video game or respond to players doing such things.
I know its a difficult concept for some to actually grasp but there is no justification for either.
I assure you until i get board with trying to educate the misinformed on what is actually acceptable behavior in game you can look forward to many more copy and pastes as long as other players insist on repeating the same topics over and over again.
till then... 
scazzman1 voteslol You are as amusing as ever. thanks again for the laugh. I told you before you considering troll is where I want to be ....until you develop a more mature and civilized attitude
Maybe one day you will the the capacity and cognitive aptitude to actually comprehend one of my "copy and paste" and realize the actions/chat from certain players that talk about are the a failure on the players side form have lack of emotional stability and anger management skills ..... or simply the result of natural be in a negative toxic person in general.
Not in any way the fault of anything else people wish to blame it on.
This is an actual factual statement ..wow coming from you that's amazing!!!!!!
You are right I like to do my part to at least help clean up the community form the types of people I have discussed
Really the only people that have to worry about me are the peole who through immature temper tantrums over the status and outcome of a video game or respond to players doing such things.
I know its a difficult concept for some to actually grasp but there is no justification for either.
I assure you until i get board with trying to educate the misinformed on what is actually acceptable behavior in game you can look forward to many more copy and pastes as long as other players insist on repeating the same topics over and over again.
till then...
creampeye is that you?
Mindspeaker1 votescreampeye is that you?
nope LOL -10/10 reply
idontcareMuteall1 votesYeah, it's also "just my time being wasted" because you're too selfish of a player to care about your fellow teammates and fuck around. You wouldn't like me sitting you in a corner facing the damn wall for 30 minutes would you? No, and if you honestly get personal satisfaction from doing that alone, then you are just far from help.
you are playing a "GAME" you are already wasting time unless you plan to go pro or stream.
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