This Is Why Players Are Toxic

ItsOrval·Oct 6, 2016·14 votes·2,787 views

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When your team just feeds and feeds and feeds, making it impossible to carry. This is why people are toxic. 2 days ago I had ended my streak of having feeders on my team (went 3 days straight losing every game because we had a person first timing their champ who ended up feeding 2 laners), making it impossible to win, because even if you were fed, youd have to face 2 enemies that were fed. Thus I got perma banned, because having to go 3 days straight of having feeders on your team really screws with your mindset.

EDIT: All these people disliking this post lol. This community is such babies.

100 Comments

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20168 votes

You should have received a notification of why you were banned. Could you please post that?

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20164 votes

Already said I am toxic. No need to post my chat logs when I have already agreed to that part. I am simply addressing why players are toxic.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20169 votes

I feel that people make up their own excuses as they go. Toxicity is a symptom of being unable or unwilling to control oneself. I suspect that most people who are only briefly unable manage to stay safe over the long haul (Riot's data supports this theory). It's the people who indulge themselves that get in trouble.

No Yellow NorcoOct 7, 20168 votes

Which OP clearly stated that he did. His team was stupid so he was toxic. There is no ambiguity there. The point OP is making is that people are often toxic as a result of trollos. Which is true. Which is also why you've been playing the "ban the toxic person" game for 3.5 years and have literally gotten nowhere. It's not gonna fix it.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20165 votes

Which OP clearly stated that he did. His team was stupid so he was toxic. There is no ambiguity there. The point OP is making is that people are often toxic as a result of trollos. Which is true. Which is also why you've been playing the "ban the toxic person" game for 3.5 years and have literally gotten nowhere. It's not gonna fix it.

This guy gets it.

I feel that people make up their own excuses as they go.

Already said I am toxic.

???

Or did you just want me to show my chat logs so I can look more like a bad person?

No Yellow NorcoOct 7, 20166 votes

He clearly wanted to wave his E-pen at you. "Oh haha you were toxic you got banned look my blue name."

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

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No Yellow NorcoOct 7, 20165 votes

He isn't a Rioter. He is a volunteer. I'm not 100% sure they do, but Riot workers have red names.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20168 votes

"I got mad at my teammates and lashed out at them" is going to cost him his account.

I would prefer to avoid that, if we can.

No Yellow NorcoOct 7, 20164 votes

Which is exactly what he said he did lol. There was no reason to ask for chat logs when he clearly told you this is what happened. He didn't make a post to debate why he was punished...or whether or not he should have been. He simply explained why a lot of players are toxic.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

Why do you keep acting as if I am crying for my account to be unban. Nowhere in this post do I say anything about me not deserving my ban.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20166 votes

You already have a smurf account, dude. It's not as though you're going to stop playing.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20164 votes

Would not stop playing even if I did not have this account and had to start new. Also you could just go to Ebay and buy a level 30 account for like $7 that comes with 30k IP, so no point in anyone getting stressed over bans when you can just go buy another account.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20165 votes

Absolutely. Given that, my goal is to help you feel less frustrated...

and to ask that you not buy an account off eBay. :)

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20166 votes

One does not simply get less frustrated when going 3 days straight with feeders every game. Even when you take a break from being tilted like people suggest, I would wake up the next morning to realize I am still tilted from team mates.

President Swa1nOct 7, 20161 votes

I suggest you watch videos on YouTube in how to cope with tilt. Also, as someone who just comes out of bronze, I used to think it would be impossible, seeing how little still there would be in my team. Then I realized I was bad. And I realized I don't control my teammates, si no point stressing out about them. And i logically rained saying that my teammates are usually going to be similar in skill (due to mmr) to my opponents this made me realize that I pregnant want exploiting these weaknesses very well. Taking all this into account constantly throughout the game had a huge impact. I would feel less hopeless after a bad start, allowing for many more comebacks. I considerably improved as I was assessing only myself. And of course, I rarely tilted after that.

President Swa1nOct 7, 20161 votes

You said in your original post that you are toxic. Is this not a result of tilt? And the mindset during a game that the match is suddenly hopeless is a sign of tilt, too, which I addressed in my previous comment.

OhWandererOct 7, 20163 votes

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Absolutely. Given that, my goal is to help you feel less frustrated...

Really? I do not mean to sound dis respectful here, but HOW DO YOU EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT? YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT TAUNT AND DISRESPECT THIS GUY OVER AND OVER!

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You should have received a notification of why you were banned. Could you please post that?

When he said that he owns up to it having a bad chat log and owned up to it, proving that YOU DIDNT READ HIS POST AND YOU ASSUMED THIS WAS ANOTHER "I WAS BANNED THIS IS BULLSHIT" POST!

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I feel that people make up their own excuses as they go. Toxicity is a symptom of being unable or unwilling to control oneself. I suspect that most people who are only briefly unable manage to stay safe over the long haul (Riot's data supports this theory). It's the people who indulge themselves that get in trouble.

REALLY? THAT IS TRYING IS THAT TRYING TO HELP!?!? YOUR TRYING TO MAKE HIM FEEL LIKE SHIT!

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"I got mad at my teammates and lashed out at them" is going to cost him his account.

I would prefer to avoid that, if we can.

AGAIN REALLY!?!? THIS IS SO DISRESPECTFUL! IF YOUR SO GOD DAMN SMART HOW DO YOU TURN A LOSS DUE TO A STUBBORN FEEDER/TROLL INTO A WIN WITHOUT PISSING THEM OFF, EVEN AFTER TRYING TO BE NICE?

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You already have a smurf account, dude. It's not as though you're going to stop playing.

Holy shit . . . . stop . . . . typing . . . . move away . . . . from your keyboard . . . . are you trying to get this guy to kill himself?

Like honestly look at this guy he loves your game and your giving him so much shit. He is dealing with your companies poor excuse for player management and trying to point out a possible area for improvement and your being an asshole. I see this non stop from Riot employees and honestly it does not surprise me that this community is disrespectful when Riot itself does not know the meaning of respect. There are employees that post peoples personal chat logs IN THE COMMENT SECTION OF THEIR POST AND THEN BANS THEM IN THE SAME POST (happened to me) WHEN HE NEVER SAID I DIDNT DESERVE THE PREVIOUS PUNISHMENT. I digress . . .

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

I see this non stop from Riot employees and honestly it does not surprise me that this community is disrespectful when Riot itself does not know the meaning of respect.

Tbh, most people in the League community worship Riot. Just look at the dislikes on my post and comments, people obey Riots code of conduct. Most only like Riot/Volunteer posts/comments because they are a higher person in charge. That is just my opinion tho.

Nik NikersonOct 7, 20161 votes

People obey Riot's code of conduct because those are the rules for how to behave while playing their game. Not all of us agree with everything Riot says, but we follow the rules because we want to be able to play their game. It's fine to voice your opinion that you don't agree with their policies. But not agreeing with those policies doesn't make you exempt for them.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20165 votes

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Or did you just want me to show my chat logs so I can look more like a bad person?

I don't think you're a bad person.

I think you're a person who wants to feel justified in their behavior.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20165 votes

I can understand that, but I am not trying to be justified when I know Riot does not unban one's account. People just get mad when they are with toxic players, so I am just trying to get them to see from my view why we are toxic.

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20167 votes

I don't know about you, but League is a whole lot less toxic than when I started. I count that at progress.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20161 votes

https://tenor.co/yqDn.gif

Why doesnt my gif work :(

ModUlanopoOct 7, 20164 votes

You apparently need to click on the play button for it to run, at least in my browser.

As to the question, absolutely. Season 1 League was really, really bad.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20161 votes

You apparently need to click on the play button for it to run, at least in my browser.

Yeah thats what I dont get. Other people's Gifs dont have that

As to the question, absolutely. Season 1 League was really, really bad.

I was not here in Season 1, guess I would'nt know that xD

Best Kog NAOct 6, 20165 votes

I don't see how you got permabanned because you had feeders on your team.

ItsOrvalOct 6, 20165 votes

I was toxic to them, and I dont report in this game because I see at as unfair to players who actually spend money and time on it. The last time I reported someone was months ago, havent done it since.

KüramaOct 7, 20163 votes

It's not unfair to report toxic behavior or for toxic behavior to be punished, despite money being spent.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20162 votes

I dont care if people are toxic, I dont have thin skin. So in other words, their toxic behavior doesnt effect me enough to be reportable. I just hate it when people dont care about winning, and decide to just feed.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 7, 20165 votes

so being beat and getting out played is more offensive then being verbally abusive and toxic ?

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

Yes, because I actually play the game to win, not to have trolls on my team going 0-7 in 10 minutes costing us a loss. If you're feeding, hide under the tower, dont keep trying to 1v1 someone that is 2 levels above you with 4 kills 0 deaths 40 more cs than you. The lack of logic makes me toxic.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 7, 20165 votes

well so every game 5 people need to be banned for losing a game then by your idea

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

No, they clearly need to go back to normals so they can get more practice. Dont put words in my mouth bud.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 7, 20164 votes

its a video game... you are gonna win some and lose some. you arent expected to win all of them and youre not going to... the worst thing about the screen shot you posted was the over all team comp of your team compared to the enemy.... double adc comp with vayne jungle with no tank or hard reliable cc outside sonas and ashes ult vs a team full of hard cc divers and high burst assassins. no wonder zed had 20+ kills vs a sona, ashe, vayne, ahri and jayce.... no one could protect vs anything in that game. and you were all out picked team comp wise...

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

That was pretty much all common sense you just wrote out. I was also first pick on my team, Vayne wanted top but I only play Jayce, Quinn, and Kayle top lane. I dont mid, jungle, bot, adc, so in Vaynes response, she decided to go Vayne jungle beens I told her she cant top.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 7, 20163 votes

if its normal draft or rank game you pre select roles... and you are assigned roles based on what you chose... so it dont matter vayne wanted top... or whatever if you were assigned top you got top... and every one else got the role they were assigned so who was assigned top? vayne or you? and im pretty positive whether or not is the truth your gonna say you were assigned top

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20162 votes

Vayne asked me for top, I dont know if you can read or not but in the picture shown above, it simply shows my assigned spot is top.

and im pretty positive whether or not is the truth your gonna say you were assigned top

You are trying to hard to make me sound like a bad person. You have a good one, your logic is over your head bud.

KüramaOct 6, 20163 votes

It is frustrating to deal with any form of toxic behavior in-game, however it does not excuse you if you add fuel to the fire. The Report system does indeed work and will ban consistent and extreme cases of toxicity so I urge you to utilise it whenever you encounter toxic behavior.

As for your permanent ban, you have landed previous punishments or exhibited extreme toxicity for your punishment to be escalated to the final tier.

You are free to make a new account a start afresh and post your chat logs if you'd like an analysis of your behavior.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20163 votes

I just wish Riot would perma ban chat and not the players accounts. And if theyre feeders, temporary ban rank from them (Ive never intentionally fed, but it is a problem in this game, bigger than toxic players imo). Perma banning their whole account is just not right.

KüramaOct 7, 20163 votes

Toxic chat has 4 tiers of punishments.

10 game chat restriction
25 game chat restriction
2 week ban
Permanent ban

Intentional feeding has 2 tiers of punishments.

2 week ban
Permanent ban

I think you would have received chat restriction prior to receiving this permanent ban. Permanent chat restrictions pretty much existed in the past but the Player Behaviour team found it leading to more frustration and lack of communication in-game and as such created the 4 current tiers of punishment.

You're encouraged to mute players if they're being toxic towards you however which should avoid arguments among other players and yourself.

As for intentional feeders, again, it's punishable and you should report it.

ItsOrvalOct 7, 20162 votes

When I reported feeders in the past, nothing would happen to them. Had a Yi a couple games ago on my team who was 0/12 in 15 minutes in game. I looked at his recent games, which is all 15+ deaths per game, he's still playing tho. However toxic players, when I used to report them in the past, they would get banned. Which is why I don't report toxic players anymore, because I am not thin skinned and it doesnt get to me since I realize why they're toxic. Back then I was pretty bad, so when people were toxic to me I got butt hurt.

Just a few games ago on this account I died about 4 times to a Rengar top, it was my fault, the team was toxic to me but I didnt care, because they were right, its my fault. We also lost that game because of me, I couldnt shut down Rengar, and he ended up getting I think 30 kills, winning the game. My team was still toxic to me, but I didnt report, because they should be toxic to me, I just wasted 30 or so minutes of their time.

KüramaOct 7, 20161 votes

Consistent feeding will get them banned. We can argue if the intentional feeder ban system is tuned aggressively enough or not but they will be banned.