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I honestly will never understand "jungle you are not doing anything"

it be lìke that·9/6/2017, 11:43:57 PM·4 votes·754 views

The only way i tilt, is if someone tries to say im doing nothing, simply because im not ganking their lane every 5 seconds. Flaming isn't going to make anyone play better, I either just start to go in for no reason without thinking, or AFK farm to prevent the first one from happening.

Ganking isn't all about your jungler. It is up to the lane to put the opponent in the favorable position for a gank, if you are shoved up lane, even though you are "winning lane" congratulations, you played yourself. Your lane is not favorable. Running away then pinging missing 400 times because you were chased for 6 seconds and I was bot side is not "gg useless jungler"

Then of course we lead into the "kill yourself" which doesn't typically bother me, what bothers me is you have now decided flaming is more important than the game.

Overwatch isn't that bad in gold - plat (only ranks ive been in outside of placements) and it has voice comms...

12 Comments

Beas7ie9/7/2017, 1:29:52 AM3 votes

I say this all the time to teammates and they rarely seem to listen. If you want ganks then learn to manage minion waves. If you're pushed up to turret and/or the enemy is camped under there then I'm not ganking unless he's like 5% health and we can do an easy tower dive. Also use your frekkin wards. I'll help how I can but it's not MY job to win YOUR lane.

Oh and if you feed 4 or more kills in like the first 10 minutes then you're on your own. I'm not going near that shit.

bleufromage9/8/2017, 2:20:48 AM2 votes

One thing I think many jungle players are absolutely oblivious to (and makes them pretty useless) is failing to countergank. You can't just say "you pushed lane i cant gank." As a jungle you need to track their jg and be where you are needed. Whether that's ganking the opposite side where they are not or meeting the enemy jungler where they are ganking. You can't get a tower if you don't push the lane. If you get ganked and it's 3 or 4 vs 2 you lose your team a tower and give the enemy kills. This is a team game and so many players like to assume that it's every man for themselves.

LankPants9/7/2017, 4:08:02 AM1 votes

The people who say this are always the ones who shove their lane out past the river as well. The hell do people expect from their junglers?

ForFoxSakes9/7/2017, 6:33:03 AM1 votes

Most people who bitch about it dont understand the difference in jungle champs either. Some a gankers, some are counter junglers, some are farming carries. I've quit on trying to explain this to people who just cry about ganks

I'm a Shyv who is 2 levels up on their jungler, took dragon, killed their jungler in their jungle, took all their farm but didnt gank your lane? Too damn bad

ArchMageM4gnus9/7/2017, 6:45:40 AM1 votes

Its however ALSO the responsibility for the jungler to acknowledge and let the laner know WHEN he is going to gank. Im busy laning, watching my opponent, doing my very best to out play him while also trying to be safe from all over lanes. The jungler has a lot more time to look around the map, and gauge appropriately. It doesn't take much for a jungler to ping somewhere or type "on my way to gank" to simply give me a notification. This lets me set it correctly, to possibly lead my opponent into a false lead to which he over extends.

Instead a lot of the junglers I see simply come over when it's convenient for them. They give me no heads up, no ping, no text; they simply come over and sit in a bush for 10 seconds and just suddenly expect me to be ready and set something up. By the time I give my opponent the false advantage to feint him, the junglers gone.

So if you expect me to be 100% always ready for my jungler to come, always be pushed into my tower losing CS, then it aint happening.

kierg9/7/2017, 3:09:38 PM1 votes

While I agree ganking a pushed in lane is foolish it also makes sense to keep an eye on that lane. Theres a good chance their jungler is gonna gank the pushed in lane, and if your laner has a cs lead on their opponent that could be an easy counter gank

themachamp9/8/2017, 1:50:47 AM1 votes

To be fair....there are those junglers who will just farm all game and will only make a cameo in a lane just to farm the waves when the laner dies to a gank. Just showing yourself and forcing the enemy to back off and lose some xp or gold is enough to change the dynamic of a lane. Ex: When i ward and see a j4 coming and have to back off again...and again....and again....while my yi just plays with himself at krugs >>

SpelingMistakee9/7/2017, 2:04:54 AM1 votes

ye. just had a game where the fizz always overextended and always pushed up to enemy tower and when he dies, he complains he has no jg and never ganks. ???? what am i supposed to do?! Tank the fucking turret shots ?!