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Multi-que Toxicity is what is ruining this game.

Abyss Gear Syxx·1/31/2018, 12:33:03 PM·2 votes·1,090 views

We've noticed it back before flex queue was a thing, back when riot tried to appeal the masses by making the ranked solo/duo queue, flex for the entire season. However the game is actually taking a worse turn because those who play together in ranked flex also play together in normal queues. This means that no matter where you go you have to deal with the mentality of mentally broken players even when you are trying to practice. When I sent in a message to riot explaining that I saw a huge correlation, their best response was to avoid it rather than even thinking that the ideas I proposed them were useful.

The idea is simple, give back a regular queue that is solo/due queue only so that way people in groups don't have to pair up with non paired groups. You might be thinking, "Oh that will take much longer to find a match." But lets look at the facts here. How many people are playing this game? Do you really care that much to get into a game that is almost destined to fail from the start due to toxicity? Do you really want people abusing terminology to suit their selfish desires and continue to not only teach others bad game practices but then hinder you from actually learning something? Then you should be ok with waiting a bit longer to get in the match.

People like what I am talking about even affect ARAMs. It's to the point where if you aren't with something it's more than likely you'll either be shunned cuz you aren't a person queuing up or will be flamed/trollled/treated poorly like bait even by people who should be on your side. This is what is called involuntary bullying. Basically you joined this game to have fun and yet not only do you have a chance of consistently getting 1 person who is going to cuss you out, but because of these premades you'll most likely get 2 or more. They always come in pairs trying to prove something to their friends while spouting absolute rubbish.

When you think about it the game really got bad when the game got super popular in season three as far as toxicity is concerned. Riot said they were pushing towards team play and I am fine with that by itself, but these players who play with their friends and act all sorts of rude are being given too much power in every facet of the game. The reason why this game was popular is because it was working before, and some people might've disliked a few buffs or nerfs or maybe 5 or so champions here and there. That's proper, that's people enjoying the game enough to care. This toxicity that you've bred with these practices on giving power to the popular or taking away from those who want to try to become better is really unfair however. Most people do not like it but do not understand what is happening.

Now people dread dealing with trolls far more than they care about the balance of the game. That's depressing as heck. Please riot make solo/duo normal queue for people who want to actually practice. Or just make draft that. Blind pick is already a great place for people who are premade to not only enjoy wonky comps and or do whatever they want, but also have an advantage for it. Arams I am not going to be too butthurt over being premade as it's a fun mode, I am merely talking about how far the toxicity is reaching when I mentioned it earlier.

Do something for us solo/duo queers that you've been nerfing and stomping for the last 4 seasons.

68 Comments

Kaioko1/31/2018, 3:31:10 PM4 votes

There might be some truth to your assumptions that premades in normals cause a more toxic environment to those who did not premake with them but it is definitely not worth all the negative things that would come about adding an extra queue. Just to name a few longer queue times and needing to greatly increase the autofill rate would be a much greater burden than having to deal with the occasional toxic teams of 2/3 players.

ModPeriscope1/31/2018, 3:20:23 PM4 votes

I can't say I share this same animosity toward premade groups. I firmly believe that toxic players come in various forms, unrelated to whether that player is in a premade. The only problem that's present is that you're more likely to excuse your friends behavior, be it actively harassing someone or just playing poorly. I don't think premades take away from the gameplay experience either; rather, they add to it, displaying what can be achieved through quirky picks and coordination.

Negativity1/31/2018, 5:55:49 PM2 votes

I had some great normal premades yesterday where I was the odd man out but they were cool, prbly becuz I destroyed our lane real good imo but I've also been harassed for no reason by premades so it goes both ways,

I've played well and had 4 ppl calling me boosted or kys or whatever even if I didn't say anything or if I missed 1skill shot on Janna it was pretty stupid and all of them got some kind of punishment from IFS so I mean ya feelsbad that people play norms to be toxic when they can't improve themselves

Leaf on Bush1/31/2018, 1:01:20 PM2 votes

Que?

AeroWaffle1/31/2018, 12:38:28 PM2 votes

People like what I am talking about even affect ARAMs. It's to the point where if you aren't with something it's more than likely you'll either be shunned cuz you aren't a person queing up or will be flamed/trollled/treated poorly like bait even by people who should be on your side. This is what is called involuntary bullying.

No, it's very much voluntary. Report them if they flame/troll/or treat poorly. But you'll never get around the fact that they'll likely trust their friends more than a random because they'll have a better idea of what the friend is thinking of. You wont remove this unless you restrict to simply solo queue. And even then, you'll get people who trust certain champions over other champions.

Do something for us solo/duo quers that you've been nerfing and stomping for the last 4 seasons.

Not sure how Riot can nerf specifically solo/duo queue players, but whatever.

Abyss Gear Syxx1/31/2018, 1:53:04 PM1 votes

Also Xerowaffle... this isn't your main account right?

Abyss Gear Syxx1/31/2018, 4:46:54 PM1 votes

Also I will do you a favor and let you win. This can be the last I do, that way you can prove that rather than you being rude from the get go that I was indeed oversensitive. I got what I wanted anyways. People to read what I have to say and actually consider it.

EvilDustMan1/31/2018, 2:39:38 PM1 votes

Statistics showed that nearly every game had a multiple queue in it on one side, you just didn't notice. It also showed only 4 man queues show an upswing of toxic behavior.