Is penta stealing acceptable?

Mael bro··1 votes·1,709 views

Title. Teamfight breaks out and your teammate gets a sweet quadra, but you somehow last hit the last guy. Do i deserve to be reported? Giving a penta is really a nice gesture, but also if u refuse to do damage to the enemy that could be considered as assisting enemy team. So please, guys, tell me is penta stealing acceptable?

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alasarcher5 votes

Its acceptable and funny as hell. Dont worry about reports.

Samus725 votes

Someone must explain to me the entire concept of "kill steals" and how it's bad. The group kills an enemy, they all get gold. The enemy has one less player on the field. Even in group situations, if you all hit the enemy, you get a score. Assists or kills. Why do people focus only on solo kills in a team game?

Oh, nevermind. I don't want to know.

PlatypusSurprise1 votes

It's because you get more gold for kills than assists.

By default you get 300 gold for a kill and it goes up if the person you killed is on a kill streak and down if they are on a death streak. Also you get +100 gold for first blood.

If someone else kills and you're the only person to get an assist then they get 300 gold and you get 50% of that or 150 gold. If someone else kills and 2 people get the assist then the killer gets 300 gold and you and the other person split the 150 (so 75 each). so 3 people assist on a kill is 50 gold each and 4 people assist is ~38 gold each.

So it's people being mad that they need to wait longer to get their items and/or greed.

Samus721 votes

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It's because you get more gold for kills than assists.

By default you get 300 gold for a kill and it goes up if the person you killed is on a kill streak and down if they are on a death streak. Also you get +100 gold for first blood.

If someone else kills and you're the only person to get an assist then they get 300 gold and you get 50% of that or 150 gold. If someone else kills and 2 people get the assist then the killer gets 300 gold and you and the other person split the 150 (so 75 each). so 3 people assist on a kill is 50 gold each and 4 people assist is ~38 gold each.

So it's people being mad that they need to wait longer to get their items and/or greed.

Still seems like a petty thing to be upset about.

DrangedCapybara1 votes

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Someone must explain to me the entire concept of "kill steals" and how it's bad. The group kills an enemy, they all get gold. The enemy has one less player on the field. Even in group situations, if you all hit the enemy, you get a score. Assists or kills. Why do people focus only on solo kills in a team game?

Oh, nevermind. I don't want to know.

Because if someone does 90% of the damage, used all of their mana and abilities, and somebody else just does an auto or maybe an ability to finish him/her when they could've got the kill, it steals their XP and their individual gold. Be nice, give them their XP and gold, play the game, have fun.

Samus721 votes

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Because if someone does 90% of the damage, used all of their mana and abilities, and somebody else just does an auto or maybe an ability to finish him/her when they could've got the kill, it steals their XP and their individual gold. Be nice, give them their XP and gold, play the game, have fun.

I suppose. Still seems silly to me.

The quarterback gets hiked the ball. The quarterback throws it to a man in the end zone. Man catches it and scores a touchdown. Who scored? The quarterback? The man who caught it? The man who gave the quarterback the ball to throw it? Sounds like a team effort to me. Each one did their part and the TEAM scored a touchdown.

You'll never see a chat log where I said "You stole my kill" or any variation thereof. Maybe that makes me dumb. But so be it.

TrulyBland1 votes

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Because if someone does 90% of the damage, used all of their mana and abilities, and somebody else just does an auto or maybe an ability to finish him/her when they could've got the kill, it steals their XP and their individual gold. Be nice, give them their XP and gold, play the game, have fun.

This is kind of a meh argument though... I get accused of killstealing very often in situations like this, when there was no assist on the kill before. And kill+assist is simply worth a lot more than only a kill; when looking at team gold and xp. And team > individual.

Then there's also kill securing... sometimes you just don't want to risk their flash coming off cd last second, or something like that. Generally, I don't really care about kill stealing... I only care about "ressource efficiency". When somebody uses a long cd to last hit an already secure kill... that's when I get a bit pissy. But not because it steals my gold, but because it's an unnecessary and unhelpful act of greed. Much like complaining about kill steals :)

Kãtãrinã4 votes

it isn't stealing. if he didn't get the kill it wasn't his kill. I mean usually if the kill is easily free for them ill let them have it sometimes but other then that im just going to kill who i can lol. No it isn't reportable if you take the 5th kill

ModWuks4 votes

I do it on occasion :x Sometimes it's intentional and sometimes I don't care ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Does it make me a bad person? Heck yeah! Is it reportable? No, it isn't.

I'm not toxic; I just like getting kills ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Troll Armada2 votes

lol. i like you.

it's similar to my aram view, i used be all concerned that someone needed those heals more than me, and more often than not, they would just sit there, and the enemy team would get them. so I just stopped thinking about it. arram winrates went up.

ModWuks1 votes

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lol. i like you.

it's similar to my aram view, i used be all concerned that someone needed those heals more than me, and more often than not, they would just sit there, and the enemy team would get them. so I just stopped thinking about it. arram winrates went up.

In those cases, you could just ping the health relics and then take them if no one makes a move for them :p Sometimes, teammates briefly forget about collecting them, even when they need 'em.

I love ARAMs. hmu sometime!

Tenzosan2 votes

"Penta-stealing" is just a term that people throw around when they are salty about losing out on that glorious but ultimately useless stat of pentakills. The game is a team game and the objective of the game is to work together, kill the enemies (together), and ultimately break their nexus. You participated in the fight and ended up getting a kill. The guy may be salty about losing out on that pentakill but you are not at fault for anything at all. You stuck to the main objective of the game and came out victorious.

Tract2 votes

It is acceptable, whether intentional or not. If it was just because they wanted a kill, that's rude, but not punishment worthy. Especially because it could easily have been an accident.

The ONLY time it could be technially reportable would be just part of a list of tons of griefing actions that a player committed in a game, and even then it wouldnt contribute at all to punishment worthyness.

Xenos111111 votes

It's always acceptable, even if it's intentional. You might get flamed or reported for it depending on the attitude(s) of your teammates, but you won't get punished by the system.

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