why do we need honor level 2 for ranked rewards?

fatcat3000·Aug 15, 2018·6 votes·4,497 views

I just got a chat ban so i probably am not going to get my silver border by the end of the season, Im just wondering why do we need honor level 2?

14 Comments

Umbral RegentAug 15, 20185 votes

The point of having Honor Level 2 being a prerequisite for End of Season rewards is that, if you're playing in a competitive environment, you're expected to be sportsmanlike. Having baseline Honor is far from unattainable, and it does serve the same purpose as the old disqualification from Ranked rewards - which was essentially just having an active punishment at a cutoff date.

With the eligibility being tied to Honor Level rather than punishment timing, it makes it more fair in general (since it's not as arbitrary as being disqualified for having an active punishment at a specific date), and it gives people a reason to display sportsmanlike behavior - and more reason to avoid unsportsmanlike behavior.

disregardableAug 15, 20183 votes

it makes it more fair in general

meanwhile time it takes to get rewards went from a guaranteed 3 months to "who knows how long? could be many months, could be over a year".

Umbral RegentAug 15, 20182 votes

I still think its fair, particularly when you add the missing component of why it can vary - the individual's behavior.

If someone breaks the rules and continues to be negative or low-key toxic, they're not gonna climb back up in Honor. If someone breaks the rules but then makes the effort to actually reform and prove themselves, they're gonna climb up faster than someone who doesn't.

It seems random at first blush (again, especially when you leave out the most important variable), but even the perceived inconsistencies are actually fairly consistent. Honorable players climb faster than negative ones. Players who don't reform don't climb back up.

disregardableAug 15, 20181 votes

but they're not breaking the rules.

if they were they'd escalate to a permanent ban/2 week ban.

Kei143Aug 15, 20182 votes

If they take more than 3 months to get back from h1 to h2, they probably are breaking the rules. Just in a less intense way.

FunnyFoxNov 11, 20182 votes

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I still think its fair, particularly when you add the missing component of why it can vary - the individual's behavior.

If someone breaks the rules and continues to be negative or low-key toxic, they're not gonna climb back up in Honor. If someone breaks the rules but then makes the effort to actually reform and prove themselves, they're gonna climb up faster than someone who doesn't.

It seems random at first blush (again, especially when you leave out the most important variable), but even the perceived inconsistencies are actually fairly consistent. Honorable players climb faster than negative ones. Players who don't reform don't climb back up.

I had a chatban when they gave rewards from season 7.. Now i am honor level 1, first checkpoint. A year!!!! And now i miss the border + skin again? Because of a chatban a year ago?

ColonelxWooNov 14, 20182 votes

riot too cheap

Tahminatrix Aug 15, 20184 votes

Because ranked isn't stressful enough.

You can probably make honor 2 again if that only put you to honor 1, just play the game , be friendly, make everyone on your team feel like they are having a good time

And don't make mistakes when trying to honor fast (My biggest mistake is being friendly to the enemy team when I should be focusing on being friendly to my team, even if my teammates are being rude and I shouldn't take their side.)

SPECxMOPSJul 18, 20191 votes

toxic people wont honor you. and 9/10 people are toxic in ranked. have a good time reachng honor level 2

disregardableAug 15, 20183 votes

I think that it's a way to get people with their first chat restrictions to reform.

before this, there was really no reason to change until after you got a 2 week ban. who cares about chat restrictions, seriously?

Arcane Blue BoiAug 15, 20182 votes

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fatcat3000Aug 15, 20181 votes

lol Draven

FegoneAug 15, 20181 votes

Because every player, even if you only play casually, will reach Honor level 2. There is no way you don't. The only way how you don't get to Lv2 is if you're toxic, trolling, or for another reason get punished and set back to Lv0. And lets be honest: if you're that toxic that Riot had to punish you, you don't deserve any rewards. Why would Riot reward you for being toxic? That would be very counter intuitive.