Are un entitled to rage?

GamblerOfLives··1 votes·438 views

I am not talking about what is punishable, what i am asking is, if this kind of behaviour should change Riot view, regarding punishing players.

I have had a couple of games, where i felt like, i was entitled to rage.

First game. I had a darius top vs pantheon. and because my top was being destroyed he asked for ganks. He tells me that pantheonn has no flash, and when i gank, i take that piece of information into consideration. Well, bcs i did not know that my own toplaner lied to me, i died :). I did not expect him to flash. Ofc, i called him an idiot,:)..i honestly felt like i was entitled to do this

Another game. I had a kassadin mid, who gets ganked early but he survives. He tells me that the enemy jungler has no flash. And i was in position to make a play, a late countergank. I flash for him, and the jungler also flashes, which baits me to my own death. Again, i tell this guy, he is an idiot.

this players were not trolling, they were just tilted or stupid (the kassadin mid, argued with me all game long, saying that i was wrong - and i wasn;t. i even asked the enemy jungler if he flashed, later on , and he confirmed. But what made me mad, was the fact that the kassadin, told me how i should have acted:).  Now, when u make a mistake like this, you are in no position to give advice:)

the point i am trying to make is simple, there are several situations,  where you are entitled to rage. I am not talking here about talking all game long, wishing people death or some other kids stuff. In the heat of the moment, when someone makes a huge mistake , and gets flamed  for them, honestly, it's only natural for people to react like this:). 

what is riot stance on this?? My personal opinion is that people don't report players who flamed them, if they actually made a big mistake:).

17 Comments

SrbLud1 votes

Everyone is allowed to rage. No one is stoping you. It's just that there are consequences if it promotes an environment not healthy to the game.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Everyone is allowed to rage. No one is stoping you. It's just that there are consequences if it promotes an environment not healthy to the game.

it's not promoting anything. It's just natural to burst sometimes, if u are right in that scenario:)

I had games where i got blamed because i ks a kill. And i told that guy to stop pinging for help if he doesn't need me. He ended up feeding that game, but i manage to carry

EvilDustMan1 votes

Rage is futile, though

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Rage is futile, though

it actually hurts you if you keep it inside:)..better to let it go, but not to an extent where it affects the game:)

venomous frost1 votes

Your opinion is that you can rage

Riot's opinion is that you can't

guess who's opinion matters?

GamblerOfLives1 votes

[{quoted}](name=venomous frost,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1n4ULBVT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-28T15:05:03.286+0000)

Your opinion is that you can rage

Riot's opinion is that you can't

guess who's opinion matters?

you actually missed the point of my topic:)..i am talking about outbursts, where you are actually entitled to rage. But this should not affect the game:).

Someone makes a bad play, that hurts the game, you call him an idiot,and thats it:). I was in both situations, where i missplayed and team flamed me, but i accepted, because i fcked up. And i was the flamer:)..but i repeat, i never chat all game long, because i focus on my game:)

GamblerOfLives1 votes

this are just human emotions. It is very natural to burst sometimes, as long as you are not doing this very often and spam threw all game. For example, i had a game, where i had a 1 and 20 vayne:)..nobody said anything to her. But, when we won the last fight, and we pushed to destroy the nexus, she did not attack the nexus or tower. And guess what, bcs of that, we actually lost the game:). In this situation, would u not flame this vayne?? it was an hour long game and she refused to end the game:)

DrCyanide1 votes

I wouldn't flame the Vayne, but you can bet I'd be very mad and vent to anyone who would hear my tale of woe.

The difference is how you express your feelings. You don't need to go on a twenty minute insult spree because you're angry, there are other ways to deal with your emotions.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I wouldn't flame the Vayne, but you can bet I'd be very mad and vent to anyone who would hear my tale of woe.

The difference is how you express your feelings. You don't need to go on a twenty minute insult spree because you're angry, there are other ways to deal with your emotions.

this was a game that i played, one of the few games i remember:)).i can't forget:)..after what he did, ofc i flamed him, because the game was already lost.

As i said, i never spam in chat, this is not what i am saying. But, small outbursts of rage. I honestly should be entitled to flame him:)..i called him an idiot and thats it:)

"dude, you are a fcking idiot"

Was i not entitled to this??

And all game long, i was possitive, i never blamed her, or anything like that (everybody has bad games and i understand). But, refusing to end the game, well, that is another story:)..and i do feel i had the right to flame :)

do you not agree?

DrCyanide1 votes

I think you have a little leniency built into the system for small outbursts. If you've got a specific chat logs where you think Riot went too far we could look at that and try to determine what the line is/should be.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I think you have a little leniency built into the system for small outbursts. If you've got a specific chat logs where you think Riot went too far we could look at that and try to determine what the line is/should be.

no, i do not have. Just wanted to see where the line is:).. As i said, i am not banned, and i was never banned:)..i am not taking into account the small CR when the system was broken..that does not count. It was a bs move from riot. A huge mistake from them. that's why, i don't even trust them, when it comes to bans and their policy:)

I am just curious about the comunity , where do you guys stand:)..do you find acceptable what i am saying?? am i wrong?? or am i entitled:) Or it was just human nature, emotions that took controll:)..

DrCyanide1 votes

I don't think it's healthy to be 100% a slave to your emotions, so for that I wouldn't say you're "entitled". You might be justified, but not entitled.

The general rule is as long as you're not overly negative or persistently negative (over multiple games) then you're OK. Riot's not going to ban someone that calls a teammate an idiot once every few games, so long as they actually stop there.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I don't think it's healthy to be 100% a slave to your emotions, so for that I wouldn't say you're "entitled". You might be justified, but not entitled.

The general rule is as long as you're not overly negative or persistently negative (over multiple games) then you're OK. Riot's not going to ban someone that calls a teammate an idiot once every few games, so long as they actually stop there.

yes, i am aware of this rule:)..and it's a fine rule:) i actually like this alot. I mentioned emotions, because it can't really be planned xd:)..we act on emotions when it comes to small outbursts, and the correct term, it's "entitled", because i have something to lose/gain.

Also, just wanted to ask the comunity if they find this matter toxic:)..if they consider someone toxic for calling someone an idiot, even if he had right to do so:)

Magical Player1 votes

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this are just human emotions. It is very natural to burst sometimes, as long as you are not doing this very often and spam threw all game. For example, i had a game, where i had a 1 and 20 vayne:)..nobody said anything to her. But, when we won the last fight, and we pushed to destroy the nexus, she did not attack the nexus or tower. And guess what, bcs of that, we actually lost the game:). In this situation, would u not flame this vayne?? it was an hour long game and she refused to end the game:)

It's only natural....... Sex is natural, does it mean your entitled to it? Rage is natural in the sense its an emotion, you know what else is natural self control.... If someone doesn't do something you like, have a bit of control.

Yes you are are allowed to flame others, yes you can harass others. You will be punished for doing so as it does nothing towards the game winning. Stop being a keyboard warrior, just move on scream at the wall, at yourself, at your monitor. Never tell someone off for a game being lost, regardless of the reason, it does nothing but make you look bad.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1n4ULBVT,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-01-28T17:49:21.925+0000)

It's only natural....... Sex is natural, does it mean your entitled to it? Rage is natural in the sense its an emotion, you know what else is natural self control.... If someone doesn't do something you like, have a bit of control.

Yes you are are allowed to flame others, yes you can harass others. You will be punished for doing so as it does nothing towards the game winning. Stop being a keyboard warrior, just move on scream at the wall, at yourself, at your monitor. Never tell someone off for a game being lost, regardless of the reason, it does nothing but make you look bad.

in the example that i gave, you think that i was not right to call them idiots??:)

Magical Player1 votes

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in the example that i gave, you think that i was not right to call them idiots??:)

You can't be right or wrong in an event like this. Im saying calling it natural gives you some right to it, is wrong

GamblerOfLives1 votes

Also, i would like to state, that i was never chat restricted ( only once, when the system was broken and everybody had this(like 2-3 years ago) i had a few games of CR, and after they fixed it, i never gotten another one). I usually don't report people, but when i do, the next day i have a pop-up message saying that someone was banned. So, i can say that my reports are valuable:)

And, i guess that i do get reported, but i never get banned- there is no reason to ban me:) i do not flame, i do not spam..sure, i do have small outburts from time to time, but everybody has them, and the moment they will ban this players its the moment when the game will no longer be playable:)

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