For every title to a banned post.

Stand Alone Wolf·Jan 25, 2016·8 votes·1,285 views

there are over fifty or more titles that are literally the exact same that have been used since this games inception. Please be more creative. Do you think typing "So I was finally banned" hasn't been used over nine thousand times already? With it's commonness it doesn't really stand out, nor does it seem important. Maybe type "I told some kid to kill himself, & Riot Banned me wtf!?" It's ironic, & unique seeing as most players click on the discussion to discover the terrible, or obviously bannable offense, but doing it this way may even turn a switch on in your head as to why you were banned in the first place. Another good one! "Told team they were shit for the last time" or "Someone trolled the day my 14 day ban was lifted soo. . . "

51 Comments

SarutobiJan 25, 20165 votes

My favorites are when people write in the topic title "ban for no reason" and yet their first sentence is something along the lines of "ya I might have been toxic, but", or they leave a chatlog which again usually show why they were ban for good reasons.

It's really sad when people think they can get away with the things they said in this game, and they think that because it's the Internet or that because there is a mute button they should be allowed to act that way. Then they almost always bring up the buying card. Oh I spent money on this game, so I should be able to break the rules. It's idiotic.

It's sad because one if they are kids they have to learn sooner or later that their actions have consequences. Getting your account ban is much better than possible getting arrested for harassing someone in real life. And if they are adults who think like this, then all I can say is good luck in life!

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20164 votes

Or like LUClANtookMYbike up above just said how calling someone retarded is the reason he was banned. Yeah, that reason alone is why you were banned excluding the other warnings you were given. It's your final chance, & after 14 days, you simply said something, & got banned without thinking about the previous bans you racked up. Like being on house arrest, driving down to your enemies house, & letting them know you are on house arrest so they can call the police. Seriously you don't just GET banned right off the bat for calling someone retarded, & such a poor choice of words btw.

SarutobiJan 25, 20163 votes

Very true. Not sure why people think it's only one game. Heck Riot even gives you your 3 most recent games chatlog. That not counting the other games they don't show. People just want an excuse to curse someone out in this game as if it means them everything. Unless it helps in some way to win the game just don't even use chat. Just don't see why people feel the need to use chat especially when they are going to be toxic. Just don't chat. Remove the Enter key.

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

League is commonly known as one of the most competitive and sometimes frustrating games ever. It's not about personal skill, it's about you NEEDING your team mates to do their job and work as a team. Well you go 5 games in a row with trolls and you get a bit fired up. That's where I was at when I called that guy retarded. He was acting like an idiot though, raging in chat because he was doing bad.

My perma ban was actually from one single game. One word. That's fair?

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

if you mute someone that acts like that then what is the problem? i see none. it's so easy but somehow riot has completely overlooked the fact that people who report instead of mute are the problem, and not the other way around.

TwigglesJan 25, 20161 votes

The problem is that person is still creating a negative experience for everyone they interact with. People like that have no place in a team-based game, and so they are repeatedly warned. If they refuse to act like decent people, they are removed. End of story.

The system is working properly and as intended. There is always room for improvement, but it is fine for now.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

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TwigglesJan 25, 20161 votes

How hard would it be for the next person someone stalks to get a restraining order too? How hard would it be for the next person that gets their nose broken to just go to the hospital as well?

Muting is a damage control measure. Banning is a permanent solution.

Come up with a worthwhile argument or sit down and be quiet.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

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TwigglesJan 25, 20162 votes

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How hard would it be for the next person someone stalks to get a restraining order too? How hard would it be for the next person that gets their nose broken to just go to the hospital as well?

Muting is a damage control measure. Banning is a permanent solution.

Come up with a worthwhile argument or sit down and be quiet.

I do not work for Riot. I work for the US Postal Service. That has nothing to do with how hostile you are. Your ban is proof that the system works. You calling me an ignorant douchebag is the definition of the pot calling the kettle black.

I bid you good day, sir.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

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Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20162 votes

See you fail to understand why your mentality is flawed, & this is why toxicity is such a problem. It's players with this mentality that when I see in-game completely ignore causes, & solutions, & go straight to accusations.

-Person A is using a bruiser but enemy a is using a ranged champ that counters him hard.

You literally provide no support for them mentally by being an arse, & feel justified by slamming "they're just words pussy" on top, & then when you get banned, or reported your only excuses are how much of a pussy they are, & you don't understand why you were banned. There is no reason in the world you should be as clueless as you are letting on, unless of course you're trolling, because the non-toxic players can see it, & the reformed toxic players see it as well. It's not that difficult to bond with your team, & turn the game around. I've even had trolls on my team that with the right mind-set eventually wanted to win. Your comments are literally no different from the hundreds if even more comments with zero, or less votes saying things like:

"it's because you're bronze that you suck." "maybe if my jungler didn't suck, we could have won." "my support had no Idea what they were doing, & should seriously quit playing."

I'm sure this all seems like logical examples that you would understand, & I could see how it would make sense to you From a clueless toxic player perspective. Take the time to look through some of those threads that talk about toxicity, & just look at all the similarities between my examples, your statements, & just look at how much of the community agrees with how wrong that kind of thinking is.

TwigglesJan 25, 20162 votes

It doesn't matter how good your points are. This particular user has simply been making the rounds spouting his toxic nonsense for the past hour/half hour or so. To him, we're the trolls. He's the victim because nobody else wants to put up with his crap.

Suffice to say, I wouldn't get your hopes up trying to reason with this one.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

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Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

I don't think I'm better than everyone else, you simply think everyone who isn't like you is a pussy, which oddly enough seems like it is you who feels better than everyone else.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

But that's just my nature (And a cursed one at that) to help people! I've submitted tickets to riot after encountering outright vicious players, & let them know how much more I'd like to help. I seriously want this community to make a change for the even better, & the one problem I seem to keep running into is figuring out how a toxic players mind works. They seem to feel they are right when they aren't, & I do my damnedest to try, & figure out their reasoning behind it all.

Of course they are words, but the report system is put into place to combat the use of these needless verbal attacks on other individuals, & what I'm trying to convey to them is that their negative actions bring about negative consequences, & calling someone a "pussy" for using this method of stopping this negativity doesn't do anything but justify the consequences brought down upon them. Maybe there isn't a way to reason with him, but knowing me, I'd try to convince Hitler what he was doing was wrong if I could do so. Words are powerful enough to start wars, & even worse, but they are also a force to be reckoned with when it comes to finding a middle-point.

TwigglesJan 25, 20161 votes

I definitely respect that you try to help. Unfortunately, not everyone is willing to listen to reason. I wish you the best in your endeavors. These boards need more people like you.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

The report system is there for players like you. If you don't understand why it targets you, then it's clearly doing it's job. It's meant for players who make statements AT players, or offend someone out of negativity. If you say:

"Damn, that sucks." "Shit, their jungler is strong as hell" "lets get that turret now" "ult up go in now"

These aren't negative, nor are they directed at anyone in a negative manner.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

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Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

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bro you sound like such a huge douchebag and a pussy i'm not even gonna read the rest of that. you put yourself above other all you want, i bet your a joke in real life. and where did you get those quotes? just random ass quotes that you put on there and then acted like it was fact... you're a joke bro, for real.

Those were examples of things that could be said in-game, but more than that, they are things I've said in-game. If being kind makes me a douche-bag, & a pussy at the same time (lol, what?) then I guess I'll just keep on being nice, but for someone who's claiming I sound like a douchebag, yet has been nothing but illogical, & toxic in responses, then No, I guess I'm not a douchebag seeing as I'm not at your level. Is it too complicated for you to formulate a proper response without swearing? You're the only one that comes off like a total douche, & to top it off, you're defending yourself for nothing with no one to back you.

Seriously do you even read what you type? Instead of acting toxic, why not open your eyes, & understand it from another perspective? I'm pretty sure you've been rubbed the wrong way in-game as well, but for a player who has cancer hearing someone say "I hope you die from cancer" it would be pretty devastating. You could act all tough all you want, but that stoicism falls flat. again, I've no prob with swearing, but if you get to the point where you are threatening, verbally attacking someone over a game, then you are pretty pathetic. You think I'm a joke in real life?

What the hell does that have to do with anything? we are talking about how illogical your mentality is on why it's okay to act toxic. If you must know though, you have it twisted. With your negativity I bet you are a joke in real-life. Your the one being toxic, & you expect me to be the one to start the fight? Seeing as I'm not the one making ignorant replies to someone who's only trying to:

-Figure out why you think what you do is right -explain why you get punished

Since you are the one coming off like a hard-ass, & I'm trying to understand you, why would me, & my life get thrown into this? That's like threatening a cashier after they tell you: "Have a nice day." Lastly, I don't know you, & frankly, I doubt you'd be a great person to get to know in real-life, so I wouldn't care to know you. Are you as disrespectful, & hateful in real-life? or is typing on the internet the only reason you feel safe? You honestly seem to have issues within yourself, & as I've stated on another thread "Since you've felt the need to thread-hop after my comments" if you seriously can't understand the flaws behind your thinking, please don't respond. I don't seriously expect you to listen though since you're letting what I say go through one ear, & out the other.

TehChaosWolfJan 25, 20164 votes

The choice is very clear for me. I have WAY to much money tied into my account to be willing to get banned. If someone starts to make me angry, I mute them. They can still ping if they need me, I'm not saying anything to get my account looked at, and I can report them afterwards pretty easily if I feel the need to. It's such an easy system to not get banned from, if you just have ANY self control. IMHO, anyway.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20163 votes

This is what i'm saying. It's easy to break rules, but it's also hard to break them. I couldn't possibly see myself being banned for toxicity, because I try to be the glue to hold my team together. I can't always be that way, & someone else may be there to help the team bond. If something's up, I don't need to mute, but just stay quiet, & do my best in-lane so I can assist others after laning phase ends. Then there's also the thought of all the money I've put into this game. If ever I were to get angry And express it through text instead of just venting out loud I have an understanding of how much I've put into this game. There's no reason I should lose my mind over a game to the point where for a good month I rack up bans.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

it's just a matter of time, you will run into the wrong team that will report you for some reason or another and if it happens 2 or 3 games in a row you will get your ban, then you will be on here just like i am complaining about how you really are not a troll at all and how trolls actually got you banned from the game. i was exactly like you, and i got banned, if you knew me in real life you would never think i was one to get banned from a video game, i'm just not an angry person at all and my life problems outweigh my video game problems. i played this game for fun and that was it, i was not trying to be the best player in the world because i simply am not even that good at this game. there are those that will find a reason to report you, and they will even go to the extent to feed the other team in order to give them a free win in exchange for their reports on you as well. it isn't a flawed system, it's a failed system that simply doesn't work. adults that want to play get over ran by childish people that just want to get you banned. it's very broken.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

I'll say one last thing if it makes you happy (or not you, & me could both care less at this point i'm sure)

The difference between you, & me is that I'm this exact way in real life. I'm as nice as I can be, & I try to break away from it. You stated you think I'm a joke in real life? Not that I'd expect you to pity me, nor do I need it, but I've been kicked out, homeless, struggling with school ever since I was raised being a military brat like anyone else, & more alone than ever when it comes to having a family. I can indeed physically fend for myself, but use words to get people to understand me better.

I once went to a school in maryland for delinquents who got kicked out of regular schools (Only because one of my core classes which was graphics design was taught there & the schools would bus them there for that, or other classes) and ended up making friends with the majority of the people in my class, including a kid I got into it with. I make friends with just about everybody, & so far, it's been kicking me in the ass. When I play league, it feels slightly the same, except players feel as though they are safe from one another behind a monitor. I treat every friend I make in real-life as if they were family, because they are the closest thing to one.

Even in League, friends i've had in my list for a lengthy period of time get their original names put down in the notes section to the right of it so I don't forget who they were when I met them. I have had matches where it seemed like everyone was against me, but it's not as bad as family being against you. Even then I take in what is said, & ponder what could be done better, & try, & better myself, or a situation. I can be just as bad as I can be good. I've used words to make people feel like total trash in real-life as they were getting ready to fight me, but that's no way to handle a situation.

We are all human, and even you deserve to be treated with respect. If in real life I must defend myself, someone who knows me may be shocked at who I could be. It doesn't hide, I just prefer to think about why I would take certain actions over others. I know what it's like to feel like shit, & I know what it's like to feel upset with everyone. It's how you handle it that makes a difference. You've never walked in my shoes, as I've never walked in yours, & I can't say your life is, or isn't harder.

you're you, & if I met you in real-life without knowing you were TheBlainer, you'd probably grow pretty close to me like most of my friends. I'm sorry you were banned, but understand that not everyone can handle things the way you do. You handled a problem one way, whereas I handle it another. I'm not perfect, I make mistakes, & I want to do something about the toxicity that you feel is a necessity in order to handle situations.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

that's what you think until you get 3 bad games in a row and get reported for intentional feeding and then you get banned. you will be banned someday, i was exactly like you. i have never reported anyone, i just mute the ones that are toxic. i was banned because i had a troll duo in two games in a row that i muted in the first game, and they got everyone on my team and the enemy team to report me because i had them muted. i literally didn't say a single word the entire 2 games, and i got banned for "intentionally feeding" because i played like garbage and was totally out matched. the system doesn't work and it needs to be changed. how hard is it to just get rid of the report/ban system and just rely on the mute button?

TehChaosWolfJan 25, 20161 votes

I've been playing since the start of season three. Never had so much as a Chat restriction or even a small ban. I used to be bronze, dealt with all the people there. Now I'm a little better, and I deal with those fools too. I'm sure i get reported, everyone does. But getting reported once means nothing until you get reported quite a few times. Three years, hundreds of dollars, and no ban. I've had bad games. I normally move to bots or take a break if I'm doing that poorly. I won't get banned, cause I never give them a reason to ban. despite trolls, feeders, and bad games. so SOMETHING must be different between you and I if i've never had any warnings or bans, and you've been banned to the point of complaining about it..

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

I got perma banned for defending myself. Riot ONLY looks at your chat log, no one elses. A diamond smurf DUO decided to go DUO top, the nice guy I am said OK I'll go bot so no one else is forced to. Well the diamond smurfs are trolling and feeding, they have like 12 deaths combined in lane against a riven. I TP top to help them, they don't engage, yell at me saying I'm bad and a noob gold player blah blah. I tell him he's retarded and lost a 2v1. Yeah I was perma banned for that.

In no way shape or form is defending yourself against a troll toxic behavior. Toxic behavior is along the lines to raging at your team for dying, or not listening to pings. Or just raging at people for no real reason. I called a raging troll retarded once, I got perma banned.

Riot wrongfully bans people all the time, because they don't care about trolls who ACTUALLY ruin the game for people, they only care about how PG their chat can be. It's absurd. If you play CS:GO and run around team killing you get banned EXTREMELY fast. Causing your team to lose on purpose has no punishment in league of legends though. It's just ridiculous.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20163 votes

Oh? and the previous bans must have all been a mistake as well then? This must have been your first warning right?

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

My point is it's not a mistake, I'm saying they're wrongfully banning people. Yes back when I was a new player I was toxic like the rest of them, but I never got banned back then. I'm not a toxic player anymore (raging at team for playing bad). We all do bad in games, so do the pros. I do however get upset with people who TROLL. You can feed and/or troll all you want as long as the chat is clean. I didn't realize this until my 2 week suspension. Then I was wrongfully perma banned. I got reported in a game I didn't even speak in, then reported by a diamond smurf duo my 2nd game and bam perma banned.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20164 votes

No self-control could have prevented this? All you had to do was mute. Had you literally said nothing, Riot would review your report, & see it as unjust no matter how much you disagree (If you do.) It's seriously not easy to get banned for me, & many others. I couldn't do it if I wanted to. I'm just appalled at how many players get permaB'd after having plenty of warnings they shouldn't have received in the first place.

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

Because people get butt hurt over literally EVERYTHING in this game. So if they report you and you have any kind of negative remarks in the game, it's a justified report. Which is utter bullshit. In a real sport, if a teams player is purposely throwing the ball to the other team what will happen? I'm sure he'll be kicked off the team and never drafted again and lose his contract. His team mates will ask him wtf he is doing, why, and to stop. Only the person ruining the game will be punished. If people team kill in an FPS, do the people cussing him out get punished? No, the team killer does. League of legends is literally the only game that supports trolls.

SarutobiJan 25, 20163 votes

why even acknowledge them in the first place? If they are trolling they are doing it for a purpose and that is to get a reaction out of you. They are doing it so you can lash out in the chat so they have a reason to report you. Both parties in this case would be well deserve of a ban. And your sport analogy doesn't really apply here since professionally no one would be that dumb. Plus you make it seem like riot doesn't ban trolls. They do, it's just harder to find and punish than someone talking in chat. You also don't see them complain here because they probably understand why they were ban or just doesn't care.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

so what you're saying is that you are on the side of the people that are trying to get you to do something that is reportable? and it's the fault of the person who's been trolled for half an hour for saying shut up to those people or for muting them?

SarutobiJan 25, 20161 votes

No im saying there is a reason why these people do what they do. Trying to fight them is a losing battle especially with Riot's current state. You could just ignore them and pretend they dont even exist. If you do that theyll either stop, or go on a tirade which will make your report much more valid. Trying to be toxic to a person who is trolling solves nothing. Hence why its not tolerated here.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20163 votes

Your anology would support teams in the LCS, but for this argument it is invalid. Does that mean that your whole team in all those previous bans also received the same punishment for noting someone's bad match? I'm not telling you that that you deserved a ban, I'm only pointing out the things that led up to the final ban which dilutes with time meaning you could get up to 15 or so warnings before a permaban is the final solution. Not knowing just how many you received, the fact that you have went for as long as you did, & still did something knowing you were pretty much being prepared for a perma when you should have played it safe means nothing was changed. Whatever you did to break the ice was not an improvement from whatever you did your first, second, third, & all other bans before this.

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

I honestly had no idea I could get banned for that game, but that was before I realized riot only cares about the one being reported.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20163 votes

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I honestly had no idea I could get banned for that game

So even sitting on your final most warning you say things that you claim you didn't know would get you banned? Knowing people get "Butt-hurt" over everything, you mean to tell me you had no idea, nor did you take precaution to what was bound to happen? If you throw a stone, & crack the glass, do you not expect it to shatter, & break if you throw another stone equal to the strength used to throw the last?

Being on your final warning, (knowing it's the last one or not)you should be more careful. there was no reason to even talk if you were serious about not losing that account. you can't deny that you made at least one retort towards someone in that match that deep down you know would get butt-hurt. If anything you've given them more power just by posting this thread. All anyone ever has to do is check the Player behavior section, & notice your banned post, & then they are headed in for round two.

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

I know what you're saying. Verbal abuse, means verbally abusing someone. If I MYSELF am being verbally abused, I react. Plain and simple. Basically on my last warning I was only reported in one game, for defending myself..... You're correct, i did not know I could get banned for defending myself with one sentence. I have verbally abused players, that's why I was banned in the past. Usually over my face palming because people say things like "we don't need wards" when we have zero control of the map. I got over that though.

Oh well, moral of the story is it's riots loss. I'm still playing the game, and being more toxic than ever because I don't care anymore and neither does Riot apparently. They lost a good customer from banning me.

Stand Alone WolfJan 25, 20161 votes

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riot only cares about the one being reported.

I actually read a post today by a Rioter who stated he was looking more into the person who bans a player over the person who was banned to figure out the possible root of false reporting, & how it could be done better. I took a while to respond to this due to me taking a good 12 minutes to search for this thread, & look for this post to no avail. I just want to say this person at Riot has taken both the accuser, & the accused into consideration, & has actually banned players who have- . . . AH! I found it :D well it's not the one, but it may help give some insight on any progress they are making to bettering the system. I'll continue to look for the one I originally talked about.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/n7ccyc79-riot-this-feeder-is-ruining-ranked

D2oPtuSCkoJan 25, 20161 votes

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

why should you care? you will be reported one way or another no matter what you do. and too many reports will get you banned. you might as well go out flaming lol

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

that is not true. i was banned for 2 weeks for refusing to communicate with my team because i did what you suggested and muted my team when they were talking smack to me. i got the same people on my next team and they got the entire enemy team to report me also because i had them muted. i was banned for 2 weeks for muting people, i literally did not type out a single letter in chat. what you say is not true at all.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

you say that like you have never been reported for no reason at all. if you have a bad game you get reported, if you leash incorrectly you get reported, if you say the other team sucks, you get reported, if you defend yourself by saying stfu and mute someone, you get reported. it is a failed system. end of story.

ShaboodamaboopieJan 25, 20164 votes

Unless the other player in your game was forcing you to be a jerk by physically holding your fingers down to the keys as you typed, you are responsible for what you say and do. Riot has the right idea by only looking at your chat, since at the end of it all you are the only person who can control what you can say.

Personal Responsibility m8.

D2oPtuSCkoJan 26, 20161 votes

They need to just remove chat all together then, seeing as they only look into the person being reported. Nearly every single game someone is trash talking, jokingly or seriously. Nearly every game there are false reports. I can't even tell you how many times I've been reported for verbal abuse when I say very minimal in chat, but I carried so I deserve a report. If someone talks bad to you, you're suppose to just bend over and take it in the ass according to you? I'm a man, I'm not built that way. I'd never go toxic, but I'll debate with the ACTUAL toxic player as to why he's mad. You can't RIGHTFULLY ban someone by only looking at one side of the story. It's a flawed system.

I rarely even report people, even ones that cuss me out. I only report the people that actually ruin the game by going afk, intentionally feeding, or acting like an idiot. Reporting for chat is just idiotic, this isn't pre-school.

TheBlainerJan 25, 20161 votes

why do you even care enough to make this post? you have nothing better to do with your time? sad