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@Riot Questions about the new Rotating Game Modes (need answers urgently for sake of my Garena pals)

BeatzBoyFTW··2 votes·6,005 views

So the following modes here will most likely appear in this new Rotating Game Mode:

  • URF
  • One For All (or combined with Hexakill)
  • Hexakill (SR & TT version)
  • Doombots
  • Ascension
  • Black Market Brawlers
  • Legend of King Poro

So now, I have a few questions to ask:

  1. Does it also includes the following?
  • Dominion
  • Team Builder
  • Snowdown Showdown
  1. Is Nemesis Draft also included? Cz I really wish it didn't. Nothing exciting about it.
  2. Is the new Rotating Game Mode confirmed to be permanent?
  3. How are the game modes picked for every weekend?
  4. Is the amount of Champion mastery gained on Game Modes & ARAM distributed as equal as the normal SR, or less? (more explanation below)

Okay, so I have something in (5) that icks me. Imo, I do not feel that it's right to gain Mastery Points in modes other than Normal/Rank SR.

Because if it's in Normal/Rank SR, players would tend to carefully play the game out by using strategies/careful champion picks/absolute teamfight timing/etc, whereas in Game Modes, all players will literally spam their champion picks & moves wherever they like. That's nothing "mastery" about it, especially in URF.

Yeah, sorry I'm asking these questions in a separate thread instead of the main Red thread such as this:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/announcing-rotating-game-mode-queue

I was afraid Riot would overlook my comment in such a packed discussion such as this link here.

24 Comments

RiotRiot Stephiroth3 votes

Hey Beatzboy~

We'll be announcing the full schedule of modes soon :) so just hang tight.

This is a new permanent queue! So the idea is for it to continue to exist, and for us to bring you featured game modes more often!

We pick the game modes based on a lot of factors, usually focused around timing (what can we deliver and where does it make sense to deliver it), and popularity/reception. We want to make sure we release fun game modes that you guys will enjoy! :)

In terms of champ mastery, people will earn what they hopefully feel is a fair amount. You're probably not going to receive the same amount of points for an S+ on SR and an S+ on URF, for instance. We're going to be weighting these pretty consciously to make sure that people are earning at a fair and balanced rate.

It's not necessarily true that there's "no mastery" in featured modes, but there are varying degrees of mastery for sure :) And we want to balance that. Personally, I think with the recent tie-ins to Loot and Mastery, it would be sad (or almost punishing) to not give players mastery for playing in this queue.

Hopefully this answers most of your questions :)

[slayer-jinx-catface]

cllesh1 votes

u respond to a person who breaks the rules by bumping their own thread... calls out Rioters for a response... is this how i should make my comments so i too can get a red response?

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

It's not about bumping or anything :) I just happened to see it.

I don't recommend bumping your own thread.

cllesh1 votes

and i love that u comment pls dont think im attacking u or anything, but i dont get why these squeaky rude wheels get attention when some other more bland same exact statement post does not.... is this a [i work for riot but im a person and have my own opinions] thing....

do riot employees also have other accounts without shouting out they are riot employees? it puts a red name text next to it, it puts a riot fist next to the thing... how is it not sponsored by riot just by being commented on?

and great that you dont recommend bumping a thread but it is against the rules right? and u responded with the authority of a red response to a thread that violated rules.... is that not a support of the breaking of the rules? more so if u want a response from a riot red?

RiotRiot Stephiroth2 votes

I'm not here to debate the mechanics of the forums and when Rioters should/shouldn't reply.

Ideally, we would reply to all threads :) It would be great if we could respond to everyone.

I just happen to be on the forums today in particular, happened to see this, and wanted to engage. Players who reach out should get a response if possible, even if they break the rules sometimes.

cllesh1 votes

i apologize, it was wrong for me to put that on you you are correct... you are an employee with individual opinions and i should not call you out for anything... i want to say im sry, that was wrong of me

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Wait a minute, that was what I was downvoted for?

Really -_-

At least I'm not bumping a permaban appeal thread or anything.

Flemman1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Stephiroth,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zrgZWmqy,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-03-08T18:52:09.655+0000)

Personally, I think with the recent tie-ins to Loot and Mastery, it would be sad (or almost punishing) to not give players mastery for playing in this queue.

so , TT mastery on it's way (think all queue should have it when the loot go live or the punishing part stay)

RiotRiot Stephiroth2 votes

Our team isn't working on that currently, and unfortunately I don't have any relevant updates about that :(

Flemman5 votes

so basically TT community is the new dominion community :(

It's kinda sad that something who seems so obvious (aka: bring mastery up for all queue at once) is not even bring up at the begining of the work (because I guess they were internal reunion before the start of "work on bringing mastery on different mode than SR")

anyway, ty for the answers, I will go back praying TT didn't die in the next year :p

Jaghatai2 votes

This makes me upset. Didn't RIOT learn from Dominion that if you don't support a mode it starts to and eventually dies?!

Believe it or not, some people don't like playing Summoner's Rift for a vast number of varying reasons.

Zielmann2 votes

It's not necessarily true that there's "no mastery" in featured modes, but there are varying degrees of mastery for sure :) And we want to balance that. Personally, I think with the recent tie-ins to Loot and Mastery, it would be sad (or almost punishing) to not give players mastery for playing in this queue.

I keep asking this, but what about ARAM? This statement is the perfect summary of how a lot of players who mainly play ARAM feel now that the featured games queue will have mastery enabled, but not ARAM. Is it at least in plans to add mastery to ARAM in the future?

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

We have talked about this internally, however, there's not plans for it currently as far as I know.

I personally think it would be awesome to have mastery on ARAM, because I play A LOT of ARAMs. But I'm not on the teams working on that, so I don't know!

Sorry I can't give any more info :c

Zielmann1 votes

Well, I can't say I'm not disappointed, but thanks for at least answering. I'll temper my expectations for this I guess, though I'm always going to have a small flame of hope that we get this eventually. I do feel like it's a bit of a slap in the face to the dedicated ARAM players to lock them out of an entire feature system (loot and crafting). I'd even be okay if we didn't get any points added to our overall mastery on champs from ARAM, if we could at least be able to get chests from ARAM based on a post-game grading scale.

kWMY8jFQmw1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Stephiroth,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zrgZWmqy,comment-id=000500020000,timestamp=2016-03-08T20:54:15.211+0000)

We have talked about this internally, however, there's not plans for it currently as far as I know.

I personally think it would be awesome to have mastery on ARAM, because I play A LOT of ARAMs. But I'm not on the teams working on that, so I don't know!

Sorry I can't give any more info :c

This would be awesome. I have nearly 7,000 ARAMS' played lol. I'd love for a way to have an alternative bonus to playing ARAMs. I only played Dominion otherwise..but..thats not happening for awhile ;p

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Bump for any single Reds to answer :'(

RottedApples1 votes

actually with the dominion map being removed i don't think ascension is "most likely to appear"

I'd love for it to appear but it doesn't seem like it will now.

RiotRiot Stephiroth4 votes

Even though Dominion and Ascension share the same map, they are totally separate game modes. Dominion being removed does not impact our ability to deliver Ascension!

Azir SHURIMA! Azir

RottedApples1 votes

yay ascension. I wonder how much AD i can get with jhin + ascension buff. (oh and the ap scales with q and traps)

TerraRising1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Stephiroth,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=zrgZWmqy,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-03-08T19:26:41.832+0000)

Even though Dominion and Ascension share the same map, they are totally separate game modes. Dominion being removed does not impact our ability to deliver Ascension!

Azir SHURIMA! Azir

I'll give the unpopular opinion.

With the FGM team's absolute refusal to update Dominion as a standalone mode, I really hope they don't decide to bring it back in this rotating queue and just let it die. This also includes Ascension, unfortunately.

If Dominion wasn't going to be brought up to the standards of Summoner's Rift or Twisted Treeline, why should it be acceptable to let such an inferior, unbalanced, unpopular and ugly (Riot's words) game mode come back twice a year?

Better to let the map die and have the FGM team come up with something else than to give them the lazy option of bringing it back so they don't have to do the work.

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