"Hey Quinn. That's some nice armor."

Drakzul the Dark·Nov 11, 2014·40 votes·6,040 views

http://i.imgur.com/thRftWi.png Oh. Thanks, Vayne.

http://i.imgur.com/aLVDG1U.png Why'd you get it styled like that?

http://i.imgur.com/thRftWi.png Like what?

http://i.imgur.com/aLVDG1U.png Why do you have...those?

http://i.imgur.com/thRftWi.png What do you mean?

http://i.imgur.com/AwqxmfU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aLVDG1U.png Those...

http://i.imgur.com/thRftWi.png My breastplate!?

http://i.imgur.com/aLVDG1U.png Yeah...

http://i.imgur.com/thRftWi.png I'll have you know that I am a woman!

http://i.imgur.com/aLVDG1U.png wat

67 Comments

LafouboyNov 11, 201441 votes

Meanwhile... Darius This breastplate you added to my armor doesn't feel right at all. Are you sure it is actually useful in combat? Draven No worries bro. This guy I laned against last match had that exact design on his armor and it worked wonders. I couldn't land a solid hit all match, especially because of his bird. Darius Well, if you say so. This armor is extremely uncomfortable, though. Also, I found a nude picture of Ezreal stuffed in the right breast. Who did you say designed this again?

Meanwhile again... Garen The lower backside of my armor has been burnt to a crisp. May I request some repairs be done for its bottom? Taric Truly outrageous~.

Critmaster GarenNov 11, 20143 votes

Meanwhile... This breastplate you added to my armor doesn't feel right at all. Are you sure it is actually useful in combat? No worries bro. This guy I laned against last match had that exact design on his armor and it worked wonders. I couldn't land a solid hit all match, especially because of his bird. Well, if you say so. This armor is extremely uncomfortable, though. Also, I found a nude picture of Ezreal stuffed in the right breast. Who did you say designed this again?

Meanwhile again... The lower backside of my armor has been burnt to a crisp. May I request some repairs be done for its bottom? Truly outrageous~.

but what did he do with the armor?

LafouboyNov 11, 20143 votes

He worked on Garen's "bottom".

RikariNov 11, 201417 votes

Swain Nice wings,do you transform into a bird monster too? Quinn What? Ew,No! Quinn Valor,to me! (Ultimate) Swain So she does after all...

Arby099Nov 11, 201416 votes

Swain Must destroy Demacian access to birdseed. It will all be mine.

BurkhartNov 12, 20145 votes

Fiddlesticks : This plan needs more crows.

EMOFRATPARTYNov 11, 201410 votes

I'm confused, is the point here that Quinn's gender is in question because she has a small chest?

EDIT: Joan of Arc. http://injoanofarcsfootsteps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/lenepveu_jeanne_darc_au_siecc80ge_dorlecc81ans.jpg

Remlap1223Nov 11, 201430 votes

No, because Quinn isn't dripping with blatant sexuality, unlike Ahri a Evelynn lot Janna of Katarina female Leblanc characters MissFortune in Morgana this Nidalee game Sona . Not that there's anything wrong with that, sexuality has its place. Oh, and Quinn doesn't have a small chest btw, she's actually quite average, but she's compared to Ahri, Miss Fortune, or Sona who have breasts the size of literal melons. Irelia has small breasts, and Jinx is borderline flat chested. Honestly League's presentation of women isn't bad. It's obviously pandering somewhat, but it doesn't seem to be just plain cheesecake.

TR;DL In a sea of scantily clad women with breasts that would make a chiropractor cringe, Quinn stands out by being very ambigious and conservatively dressed, despite the fact that her breasts can only be considered small by a VERY liberal interpretation, and she's just fine the way she is.

EMOFRATPARTYNov 11, 20143 votes

Thank you for the well-constructed response! It was just hard to tell what the joke itself in the original post was without any actual context. I can't disagree with you on any of those points.

RikariNov 11, 20146 votes

Meanwhile,woad scout Quinn, living in meters of snow,wears...

KonidiasNov 11, 201411 votes

Meanwhile,woad scout Quinn, living in meters of snow,wears...

I mean who needs to keep their core warm, am I right? :P

TiropatNov 12, 20149 votes

obviously the snow is warm in runterra Tryndamere Braum Olaf

KeevalroyNov 12, 20147 votes

Meanwhile,woad scout Quinn, living in meters of snow,wears...

I mean who needs to keep their core warm, am I right? :P

This is a world where two sticks make a hat, and two books make a gun. Logic isn't going to spring up and surprise you because It never existed at all. lol

RikariNov 12, 20144 votes

Certainly not the women in the Freljord Ashe although Ashe's lore says she's adapted to the cold like Gray from fairy tail

RoyaiChaosNov 11, 20144 votes

Is it wrong to have big breasts? Jinx is pretty much wearing the same amount as Janna, but not considered a "slut" because of her breast size.

cshakesNov 11, 20148 votes

It's only wrong if every female character has huge boobs. Ideally, female characters should have a variety of chest sizes, all the way from Jinx to Leona+, with maybe a few unrealistically large specimens like Miss Fortune, with tits larger than her head.

A similar diversity should be in other aspects of body type: muscularity, shoulder and hip width, facial shape etc.

manbearswineNov 12, 20142 votes

It's only wrong if every female character has huge boobs.

not really,a game is not your mother,it's not supposed to teach you about life,also males in this game aren't exactly average looking either.

Ideally, female characters should have a variety of chest sizes, all the way from Jinx to Leona+, with maybe a few unrealistically large specimens like Miss Fortune, with tits larger than her head.

Ideally,the developers will give the playerbase what it wants,and not fucking try to educate them,unless that is the purpose of the game that is.

ChickencarryoutNov 12, 20144 votes

Ideally,the developers will give the playerbase what it wants,and not fucking try to educate them,unless that is the purpose of the game that is.

I'm sorry, I thought the joke was really funny but I couldn't let this comment go. Every single game is expected to give a certain section of their players what they want and ignore the rest of their base or the possible markets they could expand into? For example, almost 10% of all League players are women. When you realize how many people play LOL, that is a lot of women, and a lot of possible money. And just think about if other women were turned onto the game by more appealing male characters and more relatable female characters rather than turned away by ones that designed to market only to straight men. Moreover, a good chunk of the male population is homosexual. Yet none of their male characters are in sexy costumes while posed in sexual ways for their main. Some men wear outfits that could be considered sexual in other skins (think Pool Party Graves) but they aren't posed sexually and almost all of these guys are really buff, which isn't what most girls are actually into but more of a male power fantasy (Did you see that hair? Super ew). It's most frustrating because it's not like they have nothing to work with. Like why isn't Lucian's main outfit sexy? Have you seen that man? He could be a sex GOD. Sexy Lucian please.

manbearswineNov 12, 20141 votes

I'm sorry, I thought the joke was really funny but I couldn't let this comment go. Every single game is expected to give a certain section of their players what they want and ignore the rest of their base or the possible markets they could expand into?

No,they are supposed to optimize profits,which may or may not mean neglecting part of the potential playerbase if conflicts arise,there is however pretty much no conflicts here,just a very small minority who is being retarded.

For example, almost 10% of all League players are women.

Which part of "males in this game aren't exactly averagle looking either" didn't you understand,females are far from being ignored,but again,there is no conflict,or are you intimidated by playing tryndamere because most men don't look like him?

When you realize how many people play LOL, that is a lot of women, and a lot of possible money. And just think about if other women were turned onto the game by more appealing male characters and more relatable female characters rather than turned away by ones that designed to market only to straight men. Moreover, a good chunk of the male population is homosexual. Yet none of their male characters are in sexy costumes while posed in sexual ways for their main. Some men wear outfits that could be considered sexual in other skins (think Pool Party Graves) but they aren't posed sexually and almost all of these guys are really buff, which isn't what most girls are actually into but more of a male power fantasy (Did you see that hair? Super ew). It's most frustrating because it's not like they have nothing to work with. Like why isn't Lucian's main outfit sexy? Have you seen that man? He could be a sex GOD. Sexy Lucian please.

so debonair jayce is nothing then? or jayce is general? garen? and how exactly is "sexy lucian" supposed to look like anyway? anyway,I have no idea what your point is at this point,but I'm sure riot is just trying to maximize profits with their champion design,which is done by giving the playerbase in general what it wants to see,if that means it doesn't portray characters in the most realistic way it's a non factor,they don't have,and shouldn't have any responsibility towards that.

cshakesNov 12, 20145 votes

Which part of "males in this game aren't exactly averagle looking either" didn't you understand,females are far from being ignored,but again,there is no conflict,or are you intimidated by playing tryndamere because most men don't look like him?

Please read this. The tl;dr is that media has probably lied to you about what women want in men/women/media/whatever. Whatever media would want you to believe, the majority of women are not into heaps of muscle. They want lean, cute-ish dudes.

By the way, ever heard of "something for everyone"? Jinx having small boobs doesn't make Miss Fortune's tits look any worse. If anything, they make MF's tits stand out even more, since there's something to compare them to. The people who really want to see big titties can play MF, while the pettanko crowd can play Jinx.

PositiveWasabiNov 12, 20142 votes

Read the article well done, well written, the tone was very understanding not hateful at all. Totally agree.

personally i think kalistas a step in the right direction, move away from the generic body types and create something strange exotic different

Remlap1223Nov 12, 20141 votes

Well, I personally play MF because I'm an absolute beast with her, and I play Jinx cuz she's a crapton of fun. I don't play because of looks. If I want to oggle Miss Fortune's lucious boobies I'll just look at her Classic and Arcade Splash Arts. Jinx doesn't really do a whole lot for me by herself, but that's what Rule 34 is for. And, oh boy, are some of those artists dedicated.

cshakesNov 12, 20141 votes

Sorry about ignoring the "I want champions that are fun to play" contingent in my comment. I do think the new champion releases have been catering to your desires lately. :P

Remlap1223Nov 12, 20142 votes

Well let's see. I've been playing since harrowing 2013, and so far the champs that have been released are...

Jinx Velkoz Yasuo Gnar Azir and soon to be Kalista.

The only one that's a woman is Jinxy, and like I said, by herself, she's just pretty average. So unless Riot releases a light skinned girl with big bewbs, flashy attiute, and nerdy pop culture references or tons of snark, they haven't pandered to me personally. Oh wait. MissFortune Nevermind.

manbearswineNov 13, 20141 votes

Please read this. The tl;dr is that media has probably lied to you about what women want in men/women/media/whatever. Whatever media would want you to believe, the majority of women are not into heaps of muscle. They want lean, cute-ish dudes.

so ezreal then? Though then again he has a thing with taric going on...

By the way, ever heard of "something for everyone"? Jinx having small boobs doesn't make Miss Fortune's tits look any worse. If anything, they make MF's tits stand out even more, since there's something to compare them to. The people who really want to see big titties can play MF, while the pettanko crowd can play Jinx.

And that's why jinx exists,I never said(or even implied,and in fact to the contrary) that only the majority should be taken into account,I was saying that riot(and anyone after money on that regard) already does that,which is why velkoz/jinx/gragas/whatever exist,what you are asking(equal treatment and what not) is something different,asking a company to make something suboptimal for it's playerbase on the basis of some retarded view on equality and education.

ChickencarryoutNov 13, 20143 votes

Which part of "males in this game aren't exactly averagle looking either" didn't you understand,females are far from being ignored,but again,there is no conflict,or are you intimidated by playing tryndamere because most men don't look like him?

Please read this. The tl;dr is that media has probably lied to you about what women want in men/women/media/whatever. Whatever media would want you to believe, the majority of women are not into heaps of muscle. They want lean, cute-ish dudes.

By the way, ever heard of "something for everyone"? Jinx having small boobs doesn't make Miss Fortune's tits look any worse. If anything, they make MF's tits stand out even more, since there's something to compare them to. The people who really want to see big titties can play MF, while the pettanko crowd can play Jinx.

I really appreciate this CShakes, because you helped with something I wanted to say but didn't want to say well. It's fine to pander to your main market. By all means. But it's not like there's a limitation on the number of skins and champions. Why not make something that appeals to women? LOL already has a strong base of these pin-up looking girls. Why not explore and make a variety of skins and/or champs? I understand, this argument is often advanced for comic books also, but it just doesn't hold. Some women are attracted to very bulky men, but they are a minority of women. I mean, think about the guys who are very popular with women - Orlando Bloom, Johnny Depp, Edward Cullen, every K-Pop star ever... They all have that toned, but not muscular look. They are kind of cute-ish. By the way, I am a woman. Playing as what I feel is an overly sexualized woman doesn't intimidate me, it just makes me feel uncomfortable in some ways that are hard to explain to someone who hasn't felt it. I am not intimidated by male characters either. Unless they have lots of skill shots. I am definitely intimidated by characters with lots of skill shots. And I think it's ridiculous that because some people ask for a larger variety of characters, they're called things like "retarded." What's wrong with them asking for what they want?

ChickencarryoutNov 13, 20141 votes

just a very small minority who is being retarded.

First, this is rude. Second, asking for what you and others want in video game is retarded? Recommending that you expand your markets is retarded?

Which part of "males in this game aren't exactly averagle looking either" didn't you understand

This is really rude. I understood your point and responded to it, I thought. It was you on the other hand who did not really respond to mine. My point was that exactly that yes Jayce in general and Garen in general were not created specifically to pander to women. In fact, I think they pander to men because men like to imagine themselves as strong. They could be put in skins that make them appeal to women more, but their mains aren't sexualized and aimed at women. But you can see my other post.

and how exactly is "sexy lucian" supposed to look like anyway?

Well, that was mainly a joke to wrap up with but I do think Lucian is the sexiest male character in LOL and has the most potential (just my opinion, though). Just think about what women like in men generally. Think the Old Spice guy. He has some muscles, what makes him so amazingly appealing to a female market? Think about some male pop and rap stars who are very popular with women - how do they dress and pose themselves to appeal to women?

anyway,I have no idea what your point is at this point,but I'm sure riot is just trying to maximize profits with their champion design,which is done by giving the playerbase in general what it wants to see,if that means it doesn't portray characters in the most realistic way it's a non factor,they don't have,and shouldn't have any responsibility towards that.

I know that their intent is to maximize profits, I'm saying that their way of doing business actually might not be doing that. Outside of the gaming industry, "Advertise only to the people who already buy your product" makes little sense. It really stomps on innovation. I think that games like LOL could benefit by bringing in new players who don't already spend a lot of their gaming time and budget on other games. Keep your base happy, but don't make people who aren't in that base feel like outsiders that you really don't care about. And actually in doing so, they start to create a game that feels more and more unique because not many other companies in the industry do the same.

manbearswineNov 13, 20141 votes

First, this is rude.

Not a fan of sugar coating things.

Second, asking for what you and others want in video game is retarded? Recommending that you expand your markets is retarded?

demanding a bizzare version of equality and representation of smaller communities in a computer game is indeed very stupid.

Well, that was mainly a joke to wrap up with but I do think Lucian is the sexiest male character in LOL and has the most potential (just my opinion, though). Just think about what women like in men generally. Think the Old Spice guy. He has some muscles, what makes him so amazingly appealing to a female market? Think about some male pop and rap stars who are very popular with women - how do they dress and pose themselves to appeal to women?

Rap stars are popular with women? Maybe it's an NA thing...

I know that their intent is to maximize profits, I'm saying that their way of doing business actually might not be doing that. Outside of the gaming industry, "Advertise only to the people who already buy your product" makes little sense.

It's not advertisement,a skin is a product,it sells,for the most part it does not advertise,and in fact since champions can be bought with rp,even champions are products,and "create products for the people who buy your products" makes A LOT of sense to me.

It really stomps on innovation. I think that games like LOL could benefit by bringing in new players who don't already spend a lot of their gaming time and budget on other games. Keep your base happy, but don't make people who aren't in that base feel like outsiders that you really don't care about. And actually in doing so, they start to create a game that feels more and more unique because not many other companies in the industry do the same.

Again,they do cater for smaller communities,they just do so less,which makes A LOT of sense,my point is that this whole demand for equality is retarded,things which appeal to more people will sell more,and it makes sense to create more of them.

Remlap1223Nov 11, 20145 votes

I don't consider Janna a slut because she has lucious boobies, I consider her a slut because she makes a joke about working a sex line. And she slaps her own ass. And she took racy photos of herself, which is not really helping you escape this image of being nothing but eye candy. Jinx, while wearing just as little, is more known for being batshit crazy than just Zaun's bicycle.

Ayame IsakiNov 11, 20147 votes

Since I accidentally deleted my comment when I tried to edit it:

You forgot about Akali (#sideboob). She wears an apron into battle. Every one of her skins is more conservative than her classic.

Zen FuryNov 11, 201411 votes

No, because Quinn isn't dripping with blatant sexuality, unlike a lot of female characters in this game . Not that there's anything wrong with that, sexuality has its place. Oh, and Quinn doesn't have a small chest btw, she's actually quite average, but she's compared to Ahri, Miss Fortune, or Sona who have breasts the size of literal melons. has small breasts, and is borderline flat chested. Honestly League's presentation of women isn't bad. It's obviously pandering somewhat, but it doesn't seem to be just plain cheesecake.

TR;DL In a sea of scantily clad women with breasts that would make a chiropractor cringe, Quinn stands out by being very ambigious and conservatively dressed, despite the fact that her breasts can only be considered small by a VERY liberal interpretation, and she's just fine the way she is.

You forgot Ezreal. She's pretty flat chested to.

CrownsyNov 11, 20148 votes

I'm confused, is the point here that Quinn's gender is in question because she has a small chest?

EDIT: Joan of Arc. http://injoanofarcsfootsteps.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/lenepveu_jeanne_darc_au_siecc80ge_dorlecc81ans.jpg

you have to remember a large portion of the player base has never touched a real women, never mind seen one naked. to them if they don't have DDD breasts, they look "boyish"

EMOFRATPARTYNov 11, 20144 votes

That's offensive in so, so many ways to so, so many people...

KonidiasNov 11, 201410 votes

But Woad Scout Quinn is so bad@#$

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140610213536/leagueoflegends/images/1/14/Quinn_WoadScoutLoading.jpg

My favorite skin by far :)

PositiveWasabiNov 12, 20142 votes

I like this skin too, she looks very powerful, but her stomach...in the cold.... u.u;

AlljoyNov 11, 20149 votes

Meanwhile Sejuani

BurkhartNov 12, 20146 votes

Rammus : Oh look. A pig. Riding a boar.

BastionKrossNov 11, 20144 votes

wat

BlastermineNov 11, 20144 votes

The joke is that Quinn's face looks sorta kinda looks like a man's face. You know, it's the reverse of the Ezreal is a girl joke.

Leona is WaifuNov 11, 20142 votes

wat

Remlap1223Nov 11, 20142 votes

You know, I find the most interesting parallel between extremely conservatively dressed beautiful women in ARTS is between Quinn and Artemis. Both are beautiful, yet not a single part of their skin is showing besides their faces, and they also both happen to be marksmen that work with a pet and tend to chunk unsuspecting squishies. The only difference is that Artemis has a skin that challenges even Frostbutt Irelia with being "the most bootyfull." So my question to Riot would have to be, where's my scantily clad Quinn?

Tis a nice dayNov 11, 20141 votes

What game has this Artemis may I ask?

Remlap1223Nov 11, 20142 votes

Smite. Google "Artemis Wrangler Skin" and tell me the ass isn't fat.

Transending deatNov 11, 20142 votes

i hope that isn't saying that hi-rez is sexualizing their gods...because they aren't. like 99% of the gods in the game are under-sexualized if anything.

Remlap1223Nov 11, 20142 votes

No shit, if he gods were actually properly sexualized, they'd be running around naked (It's a damn shame too, I'd buy a billion gems to see Neith and Nu Wa without clothes on.) I don't even know how you came to that conclusion anyways. You're never going to see the front of the god that you're playing unless they recall, so I'm all for giving Artemis a bubble butt.

Actually going off on a further tanget, if anything they undersexualized Scylla in a horrible attempt to copy the token "creepy child" trope that League had with Annie . You Google Scylla, and art depicts her as a beautiful naked woman, cuz Greek Mythology states that her beauty made Aphrodite jealous, and so she poisoned the water Scylla was bathing in, which turned her into the monster she is. Having her portrayed as a child makes ZERO sense.

cshakesNov 12, 20141 votes

FYI, nudity != sexualization. Just dropping this in.

(Side note: at least some of the goddesses have less coverage in Smite than in the original art. I recall seeing this one video on the topic of one of the Egyptian goddesses being changed, and her original dress covered everything from below the boobs to about knee height, whereas her Smite dress covered only the boobs, vulva and miscellaneous strips between.)

Remlap1223Nov 12, 20141 votes

And on the flip-side, you've got Kali, who went from Queen Underboob to the Hindu Valkyrie because of the whines of religious special interest groups, despite the fact that Kali is portrayed as naked for the most part. I don't really care that they got rid of her fanservice, but the fact that the original ability names and personification of blood really bummed me out.

cshakesNov 12, 20141 votes

Yeah, I think that they should've just given her the traditional necklace of skulls, with magic powers holding it so that she never exposes her nipples. I don't know why they changed the abilities, like, I watched a video on the incident and I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.

I guess they should've just made Jesus a playable character to dodge some criticism.

Remlap1223Nov 12, 20141 votes

Wat. HiRez caved under a Hindu special interest group. You think that they'd be able to get away with any portrayal of Jesus? If a Christian special interest group wanted him out? OH HELL NO!!! HiRez would backpedal so fast they'd moonwalk into the Pacific Ocean.