I know doing this is buying power, but it also destroys the market for level 30 smurfs (reducing the number of bot levelers in low level games) and allows people who want to bypass the long pre-30 grind to do so.
Idk, people probably won't like this because it's "buying power" but League has always been pay to win before level 30 anyways.
Lumus Avatar3 votesYou state that League "has always been pay-to-win before level 30." I am wondering what exactly you're referring to because I have not noticed this is a the case at all.
Being able to buy champs doesn't change how good you are at the game and champs are more or less balanced. So that isn't pay-to-win.
Masteries are free and you can only equip as many masteries to a page as you have levels. That's a direct impact to champ power, but you can't buy it so it's not pay-to-win.
Runes are direct power gains, but you can only equip as many to a page as you have levels and they can only be purchased with IP which can only be obtained by playing games. So that's not pay-to-win.
So I ask you, how is League pay-to-win, exactly?
mi ramfan2 votesLet's imagine for the sake of argument that any two players who are leveling to 30 normally will gain exactly the same amount of IP.
Player 1 spends all his IP buying champions because he wants to try more champions. Player 2 buys the champions Player 1 bought with RP and spends his IP on runes.
In game, when Player 1 and Player 2 end up playing against each other in mid lane, Player 2 has a material advantage of the bonus stats from their runes as compared to player 1, who will either have a smaller champion pool or less runes then the player who bought RP.
Buying RP doesn't get you runes, it allows you to buy champions so that ALL your IP can be spent on runes, when normally you'd want to at least get a few champions.
Just because it's not "if you pay for a subscription, you get all this cool stuff which non-playing players can't get" doesn't mean it's not pay to win.
Hoi Im Temmo1 votesReally? That's your argument? I got to level 30 with a full rune page, only using rp on SKINS. Just because some people have trouble saving ip, because they like spending it, does not make the game pay to win. It means riot has products they wish to buy, and they chose how to spend the points they earned. Deal with it, and play.
Acidic Puddle1 votesBuy Yi for 450ip and you are set, he is too op in low elo's because they don't understand how to stop him....
Worgslarg1 votesIt's a bad idea
Players at level 30 have only moderate game experience atm, lowering that would drastically reduce the quality of low level play and make leveling impossible for anyone who didnt start with a bought account.
mi ramfan1 votesInitial matchmaking ratings can be set to whatever rating Riot feels would make the game most balanced.
The main goal of this is actually to make botting in pre-30 games unviable economically. If Riot is already selling level 30 accounts for less then what the botters are selling them for and they are confirmed to be legitimate, then the economic incentive to make bots to level accounts goes away.
Onegarion1 votesThen they will only sell them for even less. Its not like it really cost them anything to bot. They leave the game running all night. It doesn't slow down the bots it just makes them cheaper. The only way to stop boting is to make people be able to que up for ranked at anytime, but thats honestly a terrible idea. I don't see this idea taking off at all. Its just not viably smart for riot.
Lumus Avatar1 votesto add to your point, players are supposed to grind out 30 levels and actually familiarize themself with the game so when they start playing ranked, which can only be done at level 30, they have some clue what they're doing. People who are grinding out a primary account with a bot are only hurting themself because they will not know the game. when they play ranked, it will be apparent they've not played and they'll be reported as unkilled because they are unskilled. Then penalties.
My problem is people grinding smurf accounts with bots and causing bad times for the low levels who actually want to play and get better and have fun.
Direwolfiez1 votesNo. Just no. There are so many reasons why that would be a terrible idea.