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Why does everyone in Silver Elo think this way?

CST Resonance·1/16/2015, 11:45:54 AM·6 votes·987 views

"My laner has a kill on me and more CS, plus I'm getting camped. Better blame the jungler whilst I continue to let my laner snowball, not try to cs under tower, not ward, and cry in all chat."

Yes, you're going to lose lane sometimes in League of Legends. It is your responsibility to try to the best of your ability to win lane, but that doesn't always happen. If you don't win lane, do the best you can do: CS under tower, attempt to CS, ward, ask for ganks from your jungler if he's overextended. Don't: cry in all chat, get discouraged, or feed.

For Christ sake just don't feed and teamfights will be more likely winnable.

"You're telling me not to build first iteam on pre update and build . You're toxic. Reported and muted for giving me constructive criticism"

Taking advice from teammates isn't a bad idea most of the time. Telling them to "stfu" or my favorite "Reported" just makes you look like a tool. If you're building badly, you might as well not be CSing, as despite your small in-lane victories, they now have a chance at a comeback if they scale into late game.

9 Comments

Aithos1/16/2015, 4:16:59 PM2 votes

It's really simple (and it isn't unique to silver): most people who play competitive games aren't mature enough to admit that maybe they aren't perfect or that other people know better than them. I have seen it time and again in many competetive games (LoL, WoW, CS, etc) that people often don't have a good grasp of their own skill. How many times have you seen a bronze or silver player say "I'm definitely at least gold in skill level..."? The vast majority of the time they are wrong, they don't know what good skill level actually is. In Counterstrike it was "I'm definitely cal-m, I keep getting on teams with horrible players" and then when they face actual main players they get stomped and make excuses like "I was lagging" or "you guys didn't back me up".

I've played games at a highly competitive level, the first step to getting better is to admit your flaws and to take advice from people better than you. Ideally you'd also play against people better than you, but that isn't always possible. The other big mistake I see people make is to do things that don't make sense from a logical standpoint but work at lower skills levels. In other words - if you're doing something stupid but it works because you're bronze, don't expect it to work when you're high silver and trying to get gold. You should strive to do things the best way, not whatever way gets by at low skill level. Abusing OP champs might get you a bit higher in the short term, but you won't be as good a player as you should be and you'll get stuck. Master the skills and the MMR will work itself out.

Aerothal1/16/2015, 9:30:22 PM2 votes

would you agree that sometimes, what works for you might now work the same for me? For example you might have a playstyle that synergizes well with the stats a certain item gives you. My play style might differ so much, that that item would be wrong or wasted on me. Maybe i am not good enough to remember actives in the heat of the moment and therefore an item with an active does me more harm that good... Do you see where i am going here? Not just should there be a different build depending on the opposing team , but there should be different builds for different play styles. When you constantly criticize what i am building, you are harming my performance! I agree that giving up, rage quitting, feeding etc. are not an option. Neither is the "i know everything and you know shit, build what i say, i mean well" attitude!

Scuttler Slayer1/16/2015, 11:55:38 PM1 votes

Way to stereotype.

Matthias91191/17/2015, 12:16:06 AM1 votes

"Just don't feed" can be harder than it sounds if you're against a snowbally or early-game-bully lane, you make an early mistake, and both junglers take the "only gank winning lanes" approach. (Not that this is necessarily a bad approach, but it kinda screws players who fall behind or get camped by the enemy jungler.) If you're zoned out so hard you can't even CS, there's not much you can do without help. And as unsolicited advice goes, "stop dying" is incredibly useless and condescending.

I'm not big on trying to fix people's play mid-match, especially if they're struggling. Unsolicited advice is a touchy subject, and if someone is unreceptive then IMO you should just drop it. But I do agree that players should try to assume good intent when they are offered advice, even if it comes across poorly.

Sukishoo1/17/2015, 12:16:59 AM1 votes

That's how everyone acts in all Leagues.

InsaneSamurai1/17/2015, 12:20:06 AM1 votes

I think most of these Bronze/Silver guys need to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bohs9D4h2k

or if you can't handle british accents, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz7TWpRXyRY

I'm pretty sure both have harsh language in them, but nothing worse than what's coming out of these guys mouths anyway :)

Dragonface1/17/2015, 7:07:28 AM1 votes

The ONLY time I ever blame my jungler ALONG WITH MYSELF for the loss of my lane is when I ask him for help, and he doesn't come. At that point, I consider it my fault along with theirs. The junglers job is to help lanes in trouble, not to win the lane for you. If my lane is in trouble, I expect them to come help me out, and 80% of the time I get help or the jungler is busy with other lanes, and I understand that. So pretty much, 20% of the time I can honestly say the jungler played a part in my lane being COMPLETELY lost. I know when I do poorly, and I know my skill level, I'm Gold V at best, but I can also grasp the idea of lanes pretty easily, for the most part.

For anyone that has trouble keeping on a good ganking schedule, consider this, for it's what I do and it works pretty well.

After getting your first red buff, look for ganks either every camp clear, or ever other camp clear, that way you'll always be on top of lanes and who is getting pushed.

Another thing I tend to do, is at the start of the match I say something along the lines of "If you guys need help, don't be afraid to ping me, I might not see that you need help right away unless you do"

Don't be afraid to tell your teammates your flaws in game, everyone has them. Anyone who shits on you for it (I.E. you tell them you're not very good at last hitting and they call you trash) just ignore them. I have gotten so much better over the past 2 season, from probably bronze 4 play to Silver I-Gold V just because I've finally stopped replying to the trolly players and instead just play, and learn.